Why do minors have less rights than adults?

[funboy6942]

Because most are young dumb and full of cum and would make stupid mistakes and in hopes of stopping children from doing that they have less rights on some things that would other wise would be a stupid decision or get them killed for when your young you dont ration things out they way you would if you were an adult or feel your indestructible and would other wise put you in danger or possibly killed for your actions.

In the case of a bank they dont want thier child getting a hold of years of saving for school, car, what have you and let the child go run off with it and buy 10 years supply of youker snoodles. Granted some children or minors may not do this but the majority will look it as its my money and I can do with it as I please and if the law was not in place could ruin that minor's future for life because they were able to spend that money. At least when your 18 there is hope there you were tought well by parents and school and will be at an age you will spend it wisely or use it for its intentions.

 

[lyssword]

When I was a teenager I never thought I was immortal, unstoppable. What do you guys have in water?

 

[oznerol]

Originally posted by: kranky
If minors would be allowed to control their own finances, and enter into contractual agreements, I would quit my job and start my own business in a heartbeat. I would become a millionaire in under a year, legally extracting money from minors who don't know what they are doing.

This is and probably will be the best post in this thread.

To answer the OP's question, however - what you earn as a minor goes to your legal guardian because they are your legal guardian - plain and simple. They are responsible for you, your schooling, your health, and your bank account.

Using your logic, parents could also ask why they get in trouble if their children act like idiots and stop going to school - since the kids are the ones who made the decision not to go.

Your argument of negligent parents is a quasi-valid one, however it is because of that situation underaged children are able to become emancipated - ask McCauley Culkin and other child stars.

With that aside - kids are idiots.

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: lyssword
When I was a teenager I never thought I was immortal, unstoppable. What do you guys have in water?

When I was a kid I did some crazy ass stuff that I think back now as an adult and go "how in the hell is it I am still here after doing all that?"

 

[grrl]

I'm not sure if they have less rights, but they might have fewer rights.

 

[cherrytwist]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: cherrytwist

Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Because anyone under 18 is not able to make good decisions on their own.

Much like anyone under 21 cannot responsibly handle alcohol.

:roll:

You're not helping. I know plenty of adults that cannot responsibly handle alcohol.

Your sarcasm meter seems to be broken. I think Kalvin00 is mocking the fact that in the US turning 21 automatically makes you "responsible" enough to purchase and consume alcohol.

See, this is what happens when you post from work

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: goku
I don't understand why is it that minors have less rights than adults, for example they're technically not allowed to "own" anything, the money they earn say they put into a bank account when they were a child aren't allowed to access it unless their parents consent to it even though they earned it. Why are there so many restrictions on what a minor can do? I just don't think it's very fair, sure they're growing up but that doesn't mean they have to grow up and get a bitter taste in their mouth on how limited their rights will be when they're older.

Or you could just grow up in the poor-house because you blew all the money you "earned" on Dragonball video games and action figures.

 

[saymyname]

Originally posted by: lyssword
When I was a teenager I never thought I was immortal, unstoppable. What do you guys have in water?

It's not the water, it's something we're born with. Testosterone.

I'm lucky to be alive.

 

[spidey07]

Mainly because they have not developed the mental capacity to make correct decisions.

Adults have developed this skill mentally, children haven't.

 

[Miramonti]

Minors have less rights because they are minors, which means "inferior in importance, size, or degree."

If they were ever to be considered equally, then by definition we wouldn't be able to call minors "minors" anymore, thus throwing the universe in an unreversable schizm, and eliminating all possibility of minors being considered equally.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Because they're fvcking clueless when it comes to life.

Deal with it.

That is whether you realize it or not completely and entirely irrelevant, if a kid earns his own money, their legal guardian should have no right to take their money away. How does a kid's responsibility or lack thereof have anything to do with their right to earn, save, and spend their own money? You understand the point of growing up, right? Why minors can't enter into contracts, right? Part of growing up is learning personal responsibility and accountability, if they learn that spending all of their money right away isn't beneficial to them so why can't they own any property? You realize you can own property with out entering contractual obligations or anything of the sort.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Because they're fvcking clueless when it comes to life.

Deal with it.

That is whether you realize it or not completely and entirely irrelevant, if a kid earns his own money, their legal guardian should have no right to take their money away. How does a kid's responsibility or lack thereof have anything to do with their right to earn, save, and spend their own money? You understand the point of growing up, right? Why minors can't enter into contracts, right? Part of growing up is learning personal responsibility and accountability, if they learn that spending all of their money right away isn't beneficial to them so why can't they own any property? You realize you can own property with out entering contractual obligations or anything of the sort.

Then, using your own arguments against you, your parents should be able to charge you room & board for the 18 years you live with and sponge off of them...After all, you live in THEIR house, and eat THEIR food...right?

 

[saymyname]

Start paying insurance then as a minor.

Haven't your parents had the liability talk with you yet?

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Because they're fvcking clueless when it comes to life.

Deal with it.

That is whether you realize it or not completely and entirely irrelevant, if a kid earns his own money, their legal guardian should have no right to take their money away. How does a kid's responsibility or lack thereof have anything to do with their right to earn, save, and spend their own money? You understand the point of growing up, right? Why minors can't enter into contracts, right? Part of growing up is learning personal responsibility and accountability, if they learn that spending all of their money right away isn't beneficial to them so why can't they own any property? You realize you can own property with out entering contractual obligations or anything of the sort.

Then, using your own arguments against you, your parents should be able to charge you room & board for the 18 years you live with and sponge off of them...After all, you live in THEIR house, and eat THEIR food...right?

That would constitute as a CONTRACT in my book. You're making a CONTRACT with your super that in order to stay in that residence you're to be at home at night by a certain time and must make payments on a designated day every month or however frequently the contract agreement says.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: funboy42
Because most are young dumb and full of cum and would make stupid mistakes and in hopes of stopping children from doing that they have less rights on some things that would other wise would be a stupid decision or get them killed for when your young you dont ration things out they way you would if you were an adult or feel your indestructible and would other wise put you in danger or possibly killed for your actions.

In the case of a bank they dont want thier child getting a hold of years of saving for school, car, what have you and let the child go run off with it and buy 10 years supply of youker snoodles. Granted some children or minors may not do this but the majority will look it as its my money and I can do with it as I please and if the law was not in place could ruin that minor's future for life because they were able to spend that money. At least when your 18 there is hope there you were tought well by parents and school and will be at an age you will spend it wisely or use it for its intentions.

While I agree with you that could be an issue, maybe there could be limitations. Bank accounts that are created by the parents that have CDs on them or have other limitations etc. can't be withdrawn until they're 18. Explain to me then why a minor is allowed to have a joint checking account then?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Because they're fvcking clueless when it comes to life.

Deal with it.

That is whether you realize it or not completely and entirely irrelevant, if a kid earns his own money, their legal guardian should have no right to take their money away. How does a kid's responsibility or lack thereof have anything to do with their right to earn, save, and spend their own money? You understand the point of growing up, right? Why minors can't enter into contracts, right? Part of growing up is learning personal responsibility and accountability, if they learn that spending all of their money right away isn't beneficial to them so why can't they own any property? You realize you can own property with out entering contractual obligations or anything of the sort.

No, and clearly you don't realize it...but, it completely and entirely isn't irrelevant. You stated it in your post, "Part of growing up is learning personal responsibility and accountability." Yeah, this is something you've barely begun to learn by age 16...that is if you're lucky and been fortunate enough to have had a decent upbringing.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Because they're fvcking clueless when it comes to life.

Deal with it.

That is whether you realize it or not completely and entirely irrelevant, if a kid earns his own money, their legal guardian should have no right to take their money away. How does a kid's responsibility or lack thereof have anything to do with their right to earn, save, and spend their own money? You understand the point of growing up, right? Why minors can't enter into contracts, right? Part of growing up is learning personal responsibility and accountability, if they learn that spending all of their money right away isn't beneficial to them so why can't they own any property? You realize you can own property with out entering contractual obligations or anything of the sort.

Then, using your own arguments against you, your parents should be able to charge you room & board for the 18 years you live with and sponge off of them...After all, you live in THEIR house, and eat THEIR food...right?

That would constitute as a CONTRACT in my book. You're making a CONTRACT with your super that in order to stay in that residence you're to be at home at night by a certain time and must make payments on a designated day every month or however frequently the contract agreement says.

Yep. You can't have it both ways...if you want to be treated like an adult, then you get it ALL...pay your own bills, pay room and board, etc...become emancipated...if you want your parents to treat you like the child you are, and support you, then you are subject to all the laws that govern that as well...

 

[her209]

How many child movie stars have we had where the "responsible" parents taken their kids money and spent it without their consent?

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Because they're fvcking clueless when it comes to life.

Deal with it.

That is whether you realize it or not completely and entirely irrelevant, if a kid earns his own money, their legal guardian should have no right to take their money away. How does a kid's responsibility or lack thereof have anything to do with their right to earn, save, and spend their own money? You understand the point of growing up, right? Why minors can't enter into contracts, right? Part of growing up is learning personal responsibility and accountability, if they learn that spending all of their money right away isn't beneficial to them so why can't they own any property? You realize you can own property with out entering contractual obligations or anything of the sort.

Then, using your own arguments against you, your parents should be able to charge you room & board for the 18 years you live with and sponge off of them...After all, you live in THEIR house, and eat THEIR food...right?

That would constitute as a CONTRACT in my book. You're making a CONTRACT with your super that in order to stay in that residence you're to be at home at night by a certain time and must make payments on a designated day every month or however frequently the contract agreement says.

Yep. You can't have it both ways...if you want to be treated like an adult, then you get it ALL...pay your own bills, pay room and board, etc...become emancipated...if you want your parents to treat you like the child you are, and support you, then you are subject to all the laws that govern that as well...

The lack of empathy and this ideology that everything is "Black and White" in this thread startles me.

I feel as though everyone who has participated in this thread feels that everything they believed in as a child was wrong and that now that they're more 'mature' that they're able to take an objective stance on things, when it's obvious they're biased. Just looking at the disproprotionate support for reducing the drinking age to 18 is evidence in itself.. I wouldn't be surprised if their mindset changed when they hit 21+.

 

[saymyname]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Because they're fvcking clueless when it comes to life.

Deal with it.

That is whether you realize it or not completely and entirely irrelevant, if a kid earns his own money, their legal guardian should have no right to take their money away. How does a kid's responsibility or lack thereof have anything to do with their right to earn, 24: save, and spend their own money? You understand the point of growing up, right? Why minors can't enter into contracts, right? Part of growing up is learning personal responsibility and accountability, if they learn that spending all of their money right away isn't beneficial to them so why can't they own any property? You realize you can own property with out entering contractual obligations or anything of the sort.

Then, using your own arguments against you, your parents should be able to charge you room & board for the 18 years you live with and sponge off of them...After all, you live in THEIR house, and eat THEIR food...right?

That would constitute as a CONTRACT in my book. You're making a CONTRACT with your super that in order to stay in that residence you're to be at home at night by a certain time and must make payments on a designated day every month or however frequently the contract agreement says.

Yep. You can't have it both ways...if you want to be treated like an adult, then you get it ALL...pay your own bills, pay room and board, etc...become emancipated...if you want your parents to treat you like the child you are, and support you, then you are subject to all the laws that govern that as well...

The lack of empathy and this ideology that everything is "Black and White" in this thread startles me.

I feel as though everyone who has participated in this thread feels that everything they believed in as a child was wrong and that now that they're more 'mature' that they're able to take an objective stance on things, when it's obvious they're biased. Just looking at the disproprotionate support for reducing the drinking age to 18 is evidence in itself.. I wouldn't be surprised if their mindset changed when they hit 21+.

I didn't have the internet to discuss these things when I was 16. You're 16 right?

Print this thread out and read it when you're in your late 20's and see what you think.

There are a lot of things in life that aren't fair. Oh well.

Lets think about the things that we have age limits for:

16 - driver's license: I personally find this way too young. Should be 18. I'm not sure I knew a single person who was ready at 16 to drive. I had friends that failed the test multiple times and then totalled multiple cars when they finally scraped by.
18 - to vote, go to war, sign a contract, get married etc: Hopefully you're ready for the responsability.
21 - Drinking age: Really stupid. Why it's 21 I have no idea. You could technically be a war veteren, married, and with kids but not be able to drink. If age is of concern, just make the penalty for a DUI stiffer.
24 - Qualify as independent for financial aid: This one is really stupid.
25: Rent a car: Combined with the one above it's just a hastle.

You're a kid. Your perception is still that of a child. If you are willing to pay all the bills and accept all responsability for your actions then you can be an adult. That is of course if you can grasp what that entails. Most people can't. Many people reach "adulthood" and still can't.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: saymyname

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Because they're fvcking clueless when it comes to life.

Deal with it.

That is whether you realize it or not completely and entirely irrelevant, if a kid earns his own money, their legal guardian should have no right to take their money away. How does a kid's responsibility or lack thereof have anything to do with their right to earn, 24: save, and spend their own money? You understand the point of growing up, right? Why minors can't enter into contracts, right? Part of growing up is learning personal responsibility and accountability, if they learn that spending all of their money right away isn't beneficial to them so why can't they own any property? You realize you can own property with out entering contractual obligations or anything of the sort.

Then, using your own arguments against you, your parents should be able to charge you room & board for the 18 years you live with and sponge off of them...After all, you live in THEIR house, and eat THEIR food...right?

That would constitute as a CONTRACT in my book. You're making a CONTRACT with your super that in order to stay in that residence you're to be at home at night by a certain time and must make payments on a designated day every month or however frequently the contract agreement says.

Yep. You can't have it both ways...if you want to be treated like an adult, then you get it ALL...pay your own bills, pay room and board, etc...become emancipated...if you want your parents to treat you like the child you are, and support you, then you are subject to all the laws that govern that as well...

The lack of empathy and this ideology that everything is "Black and White" in this thread startles me.

I feel as though everyone who has participated in this thread feels that everything they believed in as a child was wrong and that now that they're more 'mature' that they're able to take an objective stance on things, when it's obvious they're biased. Just looking at the disproprotionate support for reducing the drinking age to 18 is evidence in itself.. I wouldn't be surprised if their mindset changed when they hit 21+.

I didn't have the internet to discuss these things when I was 16. You're 16 right?

Print this thread out and read it when you're in your late 20's and see what you think.

There are a lot of things in life that aren't fair. Oh well.

Lets think about the things that we have age limits for:

16 - driver's license: I personally find this way too young. Should be 18. I'm not sure I knew a single person who was ready at 16 to drive. I had friends that failed the test multiple times and then totalled multiple cars when they finally scraped by.
18 - to vote, go to war, sign a contract, get married etc: Hopefully you're ready for the responsability.
21 - Drinking age: Really stupid. Why it's 21 I have no idea. You could technically be a war veteren, married, and with kids but not be able to drink. If age is of concern, just make the penalty for a DUI stiffer.
24 - Qualify as independent for financial aid: This one is really stupid.
25: Rent a car: Combined with the one above it's just a hastle.

You're a kid. Your perception is still that of a child. If you are willing to pay all the bills and accept all responsability for your actions then you can be an adult. That is of course if you can grasp what that entails. Most people can't. Many people reach "adulthood" and still can't.

how old are you?

 

[saymyname]

30

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Because they're fvcking clueless when it comes to life.

Deal with it.

That is whether you realize it or not completely and entirely irrelevant, if a kid earns his own money, their legal guardian should have no right to take their money away. How does a kid's responsibility or lack thereof have anything to do with their right to earn, save, and spend their own money? You understand the point of growing up, right? Why minors can't enter into contracts, right? Part of growing up is learning personal responsibility and accountability, if they learn that spending all of their money right away isn't beneficial to them so why can't they own any property? You realize you can own property with out entering contractual obligations or anything of the sort.

Then, using your own arguments against you, your parents should be able to charge you room & board for the 18 years you live with and sponge off of them...After all, you live in THEIR house, and eat THEIR food...right?

That would constitute as a CONTRACT in my book. You're making a CONTRACT with your super that in order to stay in that residence you're to be at home at night by a certain time and must make payments on a designated day every month or however frequently the contract agreement says.

Yep. You can't have it both ways...if you want to be treated like an adult, then you get it ALL...pay your own bills, pay room and board, etc...become emancipated...if you want your parents to treat you like the child you are, and support you, then you are subject to all the laws that govern that as well...

The lack of empathy and this ideology that everything is "Black and White" in this thread startles me.

I feel as though everyone who has participated in this thread feels that everything they believed in as a child was wrong and that now that they're more 'mature' that they're able to take an objective stance on things, when it's obvious they're biased. Just looking at the disproprotionate support for reducing the drinking age to 18 is evidence in itself.. I wouldn't be surprised if their mindset changed when they hit 21+.

Empathy is irrelevant. I don't think that everything I believed in when I was a child was wrong, I just know that I had no basis for making informed decisions at that age. It's like asking a virgin to comment on how to please a woman. You simply aren't qualified. Deal with it.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: saymyname
30

don't know whats more disturbing, you being 30 and unable to see why legalizing alcohol at the age of 18 would be a problem or not being able to spell hassle.

 

[acemcmac]

I have a real axe to grind with this whole concept myself, as a 20 year old homeowner, gainfully employed as a system's engineer with a bachelors degree in CS.... I'm currently planning to apply for law school for fall of 2007... I had better be able to get financial aid :|

BTW, good thread Goku.