I was going to post something about how in the hell a true Christian can hate someone else when their religion teaches the exact opposite. Then I remembered what's happened to me over the past few months.
...then I remembered my "refreshed" (read: 404) stance on religion and I'm really not sure how to answer your question. My only advice is for everyone -EVERYONE- to stop stereotyping and generalizing.
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I don't know the answer to that. However, his message seemed to be a loving message. From what I read, I thought it was a good message. No message or figure seems to start such a uproar as he did or his messages.
I was just curious why so many people seemed so angry at religion. It could be that many here are young. I don't know, that is why I asked
like someone said above, I don't hate christianity. I hate realigious zealots.
Especially those that go door to door.
Personally i think religion was created with references to God, Ala<-probably got the spell wrong, a higher being as a way for man to explain events they could not understand at the time.
Especially those that go door to door.
Personally i think religion was created with references to God, Ala<-probably got the spell wrong, a higher being as a way for man to explain events they could not understand at the time.
IMO, it's because they are tired of religious zealots condeming everyone who doesn't have the same believes. Do you really think Jesus would agree with those who are using his name as a way to show their hate towards minorities?
The Bible is a good read. It contains good morals. I think the true message of the Bible has been lost in throughout the numerous deonominations that exist today.
virtuamike
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quiet, you. Pick a side and start hurling insults, or get out.:roll:
Originally posted by: UsandThem
I was just curious why so many people seemed so angry at religion. It could be that many here are young. I don't know, that is why I asked
I don't think it's so much "young" as "immature". There are plenty of more mature people who aren't religious, but neither are they bitter and hateful towards religion.
It's just that the immature see the world in black and white. Either religion can do no wrong and never has, or all religion is crap and has never done any good.
"The world is gray Jack..."
The message is still there. It's just being twisted.
There's only one way to understand the Bible, but I hardly doubt many here who are jumping around like religious anti-zealots would actually put their heart where their mouth is and READ IT with an OPEN MIND.
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And Southpark also had an episode saying that Joseph Smith made everything up "dumb, dumb, dumb" and "smart, smart, smart"
That really was a pretty funny episode. In the end, they said that what mattered was it brought them together as a community and improved the family even if he made up the tablet.
If people followed Jesus' actual teachings (not the all the different churches), would it make for a better community?
There is a high likelihood that you are correct. Nonetheless, my points are valid.
Wow, that's a mouthful of venom. While I don't make use of m-w.com, I do keep a dictionary at hand, because I'm not afraid of learning new things and admitting when I am wrong. You have disdain for both those traits, I see.
I will tell you right now: I'm far from the most educated, intelligent, well read, or well spoken [written] person on this board. However, given your responses, I highly doubt you are in a position to make that assertion. As to my "importance"? To whom? The Anandtech community? My family and friends? God? That's very thin ice to be on while you are jumping around and calling me an asshole.
Wait a minute, you created a thread requesting an opinion ... then you received one and called it sh!t? Obviously this conversation will go nowhere until you address the issues I mentioned in my previous post.
How very Christian of you.
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i just find it very frustrating when someone so profund in his/her religeous beliefs tries to use bible as the source of his facts and evidences. many times they portrary certain absurdness unwilling to accept different views non-religeous people chose to adopt. how hard is it to understand all we need is mutual respect? when you start belittling someone just cuz he doesnt believe in christian god and calls him a 'sinner', its inevitable to avoid conflicts. these christians pointing a finger at middle eastern suicide bombers better think twice, the christian arrogance is equally disturbing if not worse.
Blasphemer!Originally posted by: jagec
Boy, you're just asking for a sub-flame war, aren't you?Originally posted by: conjur
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Heretic!!
Oh wait....
Originally posted by: UsandThem
Topic Title: Why do many here hate religion ....
Topic Summary: or more specifically Christ?
Because, in this Go Go society of the United States/Western World, religion is rather annoying and is a major PITA.
I worked 60 hours last week. I don't feel like getting up @ 7 am on a Sunday to bored back to sleep at Church; then get waken up after being prodded in the ribcage by the collection plate, all the while missing the New England Patriots Game. And when your trying to get your Mojo on, thinking about what J to the C would do, is a real, real downer.
And hearing your preacher chastising you about 'eternal damnation in the fires of hell' (say it like Rev. Lovejoy); probably isn't the going to stop you from hosting orgies at your house 5 days a week.
Though I must admit, Ned Flanders is pretty psyched to have a personal relationship with Christ. "That's Super!!" :thumbsup:
Topic Title: Why do many here hate religion ....
Topic Summary: or more specifically Christ?
Because, in this Go Go society of the United States/Western World, religion is rather annoying and is a major PITA.
I worked 60 hours last week. I don't feel like getting up @ 7 am on a Sunday to bored back to sleep at Church; then get waken up after being prodded in the ribcage by the collection plate, all the while missing the New England Patriots Game. And when your trying to get your Mojo on, thinking about what J to the C would do, is a real, real downer.
And hearing your preacher chastising you about 'eternal damnation in the fires of hell' (say it like Rev. Lovejoy); probably isn't the going to stop you from hosting orgies at your house 5 days a week.
Though I must admit, Ned Flanders is pretty psyched to have a personal relationship with Christ. "That's Super!!" :thumbsup:
JulesMaximus
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I don't hate Christ. I just hate the hollier than thou muthafvckers who shove their religion down my throat. If someone even mentions that they've been saved and are happy about it, that pisses me off. I cannot be happy for them because I just don't believe it. I believe that they are worthless and weak and probably need to believe in some sort of higher power because it gives meaning to their otherwise worthless lives.
My .02...YMMV:beer:
My .02...YMMV
:beer:
Chaotic42
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I don't hate Christ. I just hate the hollier than thou muthafvckers who shove their religion down my throat. If someone even mentions that they've been saved and are happy about it, that pisses me off. I cannot be happy for them because I just don't believe it. I believe that they are worthless and weak and probably need to believe in some sort of higher power because it gives meaning to their otherwise worthless lives.
My .02...YMMV
Don't get pissed off about what other people do. You'll give yourself ulcers. If someone came up to me and said that they just found the true, infinite wisdom and love of a blue rabbit, and that they were now saved, the last thing I would do is put that on my list of stuff to be concerened about.
JulesMaximus
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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I don't hate Christ. I just hate the hollier than thou muthafvckers who shove their religion down my throat. If someone even mentions that they've been saved and are happy about it, that pisses me off. I cannot be happy for them because I just don't believe it. I believe that they are worthless and weak and probably need to believe in some sort of higher power because it gives meaning to their otherwise worthless lives.
My .02...YMMV
Don't get pissed off about what other people do. You'll give yourself ulcers. If someone came up to me and said that they just found the true, infinite wisdom and love of a blue rabbit, and that they were now saved, the last thing I would do is put that on my list of stuff to be concerened about.
Yeah, perhaps pissed off was a tad too strong. How about mildly annoyed. I usually just politely fail to answer the door when I see two dudes in ties through the peep hole while my dog barks her head off at them. If I see a thread here where someone proclaims to have "seen the light" I usually just ignore it unless I think of something witty to say.
Trust me, I don't get ulcers over it.
Chaotic42
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I just make up some stupid story like "I'm Muslim" or "I'm Jewish, sorry about killing your God". Anything that will shock them into leaving.Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Yeah, perhaps pissed off was a tad too strong. How about mildly annoyed. I usually just politely fail to answer the door when I see two dudes in ties through the peep hole while my dog barks her head off at them. If I see a thread here where someone proclaims to have "seen the light" I usually just ignore it unless I think of something witty to say.
Trust me, I don't get ulcers over it.
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virtuamike
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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I just make up some stupid story like "I'm Muslim" or "I'm Jewish, sorry about killing your God". Anything that will shock them into leaving.Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Yeah, perhaps pissed off was a tad too strong. How about mildly annoyed. I usually just politely fail to answer the door when I see two dudes in ties through the peep hole while my dog barks her head off at them. If I see a thread here where someone proclaims to have "seen the light" I usually just ignore it unless I think of something witty to say.
Trust me, I don't get ulcers over it.
Haha. I told my dad the next time the door-to-door zealots come by, tell them you're in the middle of sacrificing a goat. He had a broken rib and was trying really hard not to laugh.
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