Why do Liberals & Dems think Hillary is the best person to nominate?

Hugo Drax

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Is the pool of potential candidates so dry that the best they can prop up is Hillary?

She is a pure establishment candidate with a pretty shady past and this whole mail issue thing, she does not really come off as someone who cares about the middle class. She is more like voting for a Republican in Democrat clothing. She does not come off as someone who really gives a shit about the the regular american. The whole Non profit she runs sounds like a big scam as well.


So why is there no one more palatable that they can put up. Why are so many people backing her up like she is the messiah of the Democratic race.

If she is nominated I suspect not to many people are gonna be excited about her as a candidate and she will lose.

This is why I predict a Republican president will win (Bush) because Hillary in my book is a real dud.
 

Mxylplyx

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I think her "scandalous" history is more a product of Republican imaginations than reality. Hillary is definitely an establishment candidate, but that does not freak me out like it does Republicans. You can see what a crop of inexperienced politicians look like in our nations congress. They act like a bunch of jackasses who have no idea what they are doing. I want an experienced, pragmatic statesman in the White House, and you can do much worse than Hillary. Just see the Republican primary for proof.
 

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I'm a liberal and I don't think Hillary is the right candidate. I think she'll lose in the primaries.

But if in the general it's a choice between getting Trumped or Bushwhacked, I'll choose Hillary over them.
 

fskimospy

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Nobody cares about the email thing outside of political junkies.

Candidates exist to push a platform and she has the best chance to win. Nothing complicated about it.
 

michal1980

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I think her "scandalous" history is more a product of Republican imaginations than reality. Hillary is definitely an establishment candidate, but that does not freak me out like it does Republicans. You can see what a crop of inexperienced politicians look like in our nations congress. They act like a bunch of jackasses who have no idea what they are doing. I want an experienced, pragmatic statesman in the White House, and you can do much worse than Hillary. Just see the Republican primary for proof.

what notable experience does she have? Resetting relations with Russian?
 

MongGrel

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Bill would be First Husband...

I'm a Democrat, and still do not consider myself a Liberal.

Not sure where that crap ever started.
 
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etrigan420

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I am a liberal, and I do not think she is the "best person to nominate"...where is your god now?

Having said that, she'll have no problem against any member of the cast of clown shoes that the Republican party has running.

Throw in Trump running as an Independent and you have the recipe for a land slide.
 

nickqt

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Why do Liberals & Dems think Hillary is the best person to nominate?
Donald Trump is the preferred candidate of the Republican field as of right now, and you're predicting a BushIII victory over Clinton?

Keep on keepin' on.
 

sandorski

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She's the only sane Republican running. That doesn't make her the best Candidate, especially for the Dems, but when it comes down to it the Dems will be able to claim the Presidency with her and the Republicans can continue their Rightward puritanism or realize they've embraced insanity and need to start throwing out the barrels of rotten apples.
 

K1052

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The Republicans have now fully let the nuts run the asylum and not being excited about Hillary is supposed to make me vote for whatever abomination emerges from the GOP primary?

Yeaaa….
 

MongGrel

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She's the only sane Republican running. That doesn't make her the best Candidate, especially for the Dems, but when it comes down to it the Dems will be able to claim the Presidency with her and the Republicans can continue their Rightward puritanism or realize they've embraced insanity and need to start throwing out the barrels of rotten apples.

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Knowing

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-jeb-bush-poll-quinnipiac/

Washington (CNN)Vice President Joe Biden fares better against top GOP candidates in hypothetical general election match-ups than Hillary Clinton

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...tential-biden-run-puts-white-house-in-a-bind/

Exhibit A: Monday’s exchange between Josh Earnest, the president’s press secretary, and reporters on whom Mr. Obama would support, Mr. Biden or Mrs. Clinton, if the vice president enters the race.
In offering praise for the vice president, Mr. Earnest noted that Mr. Obama had said in the past that adding Mr. Biden “to the ticket as his running mate was the smartest decision that he had ever made in politics.”
Jon Karl of ABC quickly pounced, noting that the statement must mean the president would support Mr. Biden if he decided to run. “I mean, this is obviously a better decision than the secretary of state he chose, so. You said it was his best — the best decision he made.”
“Yeah, it was. It was,” Mr. Earnest said, though he quickly added that “the president has spoke at quite some length about the appreciation, respect and admiration he has for the service of Secretary Clinton.”

It doesn't take tea leaves to see what's going on here.
 

Hugo Drax

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Donald Trump is the preferred candidate of the Republican field as of right now, and you're predicting a BushIII victory over Clinton?

Keep on keepin' on.

Yes Trump will be neutralized by the establishment and bush will be nominated, and the other side of the fence somehow believes Clinton is this amazing person that will do good for the middle class.

I am amazed that she is considered such a great candidate for nomination. Man they must really be lacking in good qualified candidates.

Yeah bush 2016 will happen.
 

Indus

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What's your electoral map? How do you see bush winning?

Especially with we don't need to spend half a billion dollars on 53% of the electorate? And I was referring to Asians another 5% of the electorate?
 
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nickqt

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Yes Trump will be neutralized by the establishment and bush will be nominated, and the other side of the fence somehow believes Clinton is this amazing person that will do good for the middle class.

I am amazed that she is considered such a great candidate for nomination. Man they must really be lacking in good qualified candidates.

Yeah bush 2016 will happen.

Yes.

The Democratic party is lacking in good candidates, which is why with 16 fucking Republican candidates (of which many are sitting Senators and Governors) Donald Trump is leading them all.

You're hilarious.
 

Art&Science

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The United States in general is lacking in candidates, regardless of the party. Sort of depressing.

I guess that with Hillary you can say, at least we know what we are getting? But that means we accept it. That's even more depressing. Hillary should not be president, I really don't know anyone who actually believes she is a good choice.
 

Hugo Drax

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Remember In 2016 Clinton gets nominated, bush gets nominated and a lot of people will sit out the elections and not vote for Clinton, but the republicans will get the voters out to vote for the inoffensive big tent party favorite.

Clinton is a gonna be a big meh, she will not excite the masses and the blacks don't like her much, they are not gonna go out and vote for her they will sit this out.

Elisabeth warren would be better than Clinton by a wide margin but she is not interested.
 
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Indus

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Remember In 2016 Clinton gets nominated, bush gets nominated and a lot of people will sit out the elections and not vote for Clinton, but the republicans will get the voters out to vote for the inoffensive big tent party favorite.

Clinton is a gonna be a big meh, she will not excite the masses and the blacks don't like her much, they are not gonna go out and vote for her they will sit this out.

Elisabeth warren would be better than Clinton by a wide margin but she is not interested.

This one post is gonna haunt you. Because that is seriously far fetched if not insane.

How did Bill Clinton get elected? African Americans.
How will Hispanics and Asians vote? Not for Trump or Bush
How will women vote? Not for someone who doesn't want to spend money on women's issues.

All these things have been tested and we can try them again and you can hope for another conclusion but it's already been decided.

You need to understand we live in the iphone age. Before the iphone came out, the GOP had a huge advantage of neighborhoods, churches, fear. Now voters (especially younger voters) are much better informed and have news and information sent to their smart phones. They're not catching it on Fox News.

We live in a different world than we did in 2004 when there was a chance a Bush could squeak out a win.

Now it's more of will the Democrats win in a squeaker or a landslide?
 

JEDIYoda

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The polls say otherwise!


Brian
It really does not matter what the polls say!! The Republicans have no viable candidate except for ....Donald what`s his name......

Actually what polls say atherwise>?? or is this just another republican talking point?
 

nickqt

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Vincent Foster wasn't murdered by the Clintons, nor did he commit suicide.

In reality, Vincent Foster is an Agenda21 agent from the year 2130, working on behalf of Obama, who was born in Kenya in 1836. See, Foster had to fake his death in order to go back in time, recruit Obama, and then forge Obama's birth announcement and birth certificates.

All of this is obvious for anyone who isn't blinded by the libruul media and the Benghazi scandal, which actually also involved Vincent Foster, who was the actual person responsible for the consulate attack.

All of this is true because Glenn Beck and Alex Jones both received this information over their back left crown molars, which as everyone knows, ensures that the intelligence is true and not just a psyop.