Why do colleges hand out so many degrees?

[Rockinacoustic]

Yes colleges may "hand-out" degrees, but these days a Bachelors doesn't go as far as before. I think it's safe to say that if you went to Grad School and got at least your Masters, then your interested employer can rest assured you had a satisfactory GPA.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Yes colleges may "hand-out" degrees, but these days a Bachelors doesn't go as far as before. I think it's safe to say that if you went to Grad School and got at least your Masters, then your interested employer can rest assured you had a satisfactory GPA.

Masters is useless. I can MBA but i already have b.s. finance degree(getting it in about 2 weeks). What is the point of MBA, if i will learn exact same thing as i did during my 4 years in school.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Yes colleges may "hand-out" degrees, but these days a Bachelors doesn't go as far as before. I think it's safe to say that if you went to Grad School and got at least your Masters, then your interested employer can rest assured you had a satisfactory GPA.

Masters is useless. I can MBA but i already have b.s. finance degree(getting it in about 2 weeks). What is the point of MBA, if i will learn exact same thing as i did during my 4 years in school.

You truly are an idiot. You'll learn a vast amount of additional information with a MBA(more advanced finance classes, strategic mgmt, entrepreneurial studies, ecommerce, etc). And most importantly is the networking/group work experience is invaluable. This is coming from a Finance major who later got his MBA.

You're graduating in 2 weeks. Do you already have a job?

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Yes colleges may "hand-out" degrees, but these days a Bachelors doesn't go as far as before. I think it's safe to say that if you went to Grad School and got at least your Masters, then your interested employer can rest assured you had a satisfactory GPA.

Masters is useless. I can MBA but i already have b.s. finance degree(getting it in about 2 weeks). What is the point of MBA, if i will learn exact same thing as i did during my 4 years in school.

You truly are an idiot. You'll learn a vast amount of additional information with a MBA(more advanced finance classes, strategic mgmt, entrepreneurial studies, ecommerce, etc). And most importantly is the networking/group work experience is invaluable. This is coming from a Finance major who later got his MBA.

You're graduating in 2 weeks. Do you already have a job?

No, not yet. Only been looking at one website and only applied to 3-4 positions(haven't gotten call back). Will really start looking once i am done. I have considered getting MBA, but looking at classes most of them i have already done before and it seems that it will be pretty useless. I will check again being that you're saying some classes are more advance.

Yes i will agree with you that you get networking and that is highly valuable.

 

[Rockinacoustic]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Yes colleges may "hand-out" degrees, but these days a Bachelors doesn't go as far as before. I think it's safe to say that if you went to Grad School and got at least your Masters, then your interested employer can rest assured you had a satisfactory GPA.

Masters is useless. I can MBA but i already have b.s. finance degree(getting it in about 2 weeks). What is the point of MBA, if i will learn exact same thing as i did during my 4 years in school.

Well personally for my degree (Biochemistry), a BS can get me no more than some hourly rate lab tech job. And even with a Masters my options are still limited. Doctorate or Bust!

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Yes colleges may "hand-out" degrees, but these days a Bachelors doesn't go as far as before. I think it's safe to say that if you went to Grad School and got at least your Masters, then your interested employer can rest assured you had a satisfactory GPA.

Masters is useless. I can MBA but i already have b.s. finance degree(getting it in about 2 weeks). What is the point of MBA, if i will learn exact same thing as i did during my 4 years in school.

You truly are an idiot. You'll learn a vast amount of additional information with a MBA(more advanced finance classes, strategic mgmt, entrepreneurial studies, ecommerce, etc). And most importantly is the networking/group work experience is invaluable. This is coming from a Finance major who later got his MBA.

You're graduating in 2 weeks. Do you already have a job?

No, not yet. Only been looking at one website and only applied to 3-4 positions(haven't gotten call back). Will really start looking once i am done. I have considered getting MBA, but looking at classes most of them i have already done before and it seems that it will be pretty useless. I will check again being that you're saying some classes are more advance.

Yes i will agree with you that you get networking and that is highly valuable.

Too late now but you should have started your job search sooner. I accepted a job offer in my 1st semester senior year which allowed me to enjoy my 2nd semester.

Note - being a finance major will more than likely allow you to waive a number of intro classes which you've already taken. I know I was able to waive several classes.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
Because we have this culture today that says everyone should go to college, when really many should not. And they'd be better served just entering the work force or learning some trade than being saddled with debt (even with a degree in something they aren't passionate about).

Winnar! The folks who think specific knowledge taught in a university beyond the basic tools is important to employers, regardless of profession, are only deceiving themselves and yes, that includes engineers and doctors.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
Because we have this culture today that says everyone should go to college, when really many should not. And they'd be better served just entering the work force or learning some trade than being saddled with debt (even with a degree in something they aren't passionate about).

Winnar! The folks who think specific knowledge taught in a university beyond the basic tools is important to employers, regardless of profession, are only deceiving themselves and yes, that includes engineers and doctors.

 

[Estrella]

gpa is important off the bat. after first job = references and connections.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic
Yes colleges may "hand-out" degrees, but these days a Bachelors doesn't go as far as before. I think it's safe to say that if you went to Grad School and got at least your Masters, then your interested employer can rest assured you had a satisfactory GPA.

Masters is useless. I can MBA but i already have b.s. finance degree(getting it in about 2 weeks). What is the point of MBA, if i will learn exact same thing as i did during my 4 years in school.

You truly are an idiot. You'll learn a vast amount of additional information with a MBA(more advanced finance classes, strategic mgmt, entrepreneurial studies, ecommerce, etc). And most importantly is the networking/group work experience is invaluable. This is coming from a Finance major who later got his MBA.

You're graduating in 2 weeks. Do you already have a job?

No, not yet. Only been looking at one website and only applied to 3-4 positions(haven't gotten call back). Will really start looking once i am done. I have considered getting MBA, but looking at classes most of them i have already done before and it seems that it will be pretty useless. I will check again being that you're saying some classes are more advance.

Yes i will agree with you that you get networking and that is highly valuable.

Too late now but you should have started your job search sooner. I accepted a job offer in my 1st semester senior year which allowed me to enjoy my 2nd semester.

Note - being a finance major will more than likely allow you to waive a number of intro classes which you've already taken. I know I was able to waive several classes.

Ye should have, had the summer to look for job and didn't Got no one to blame but my self. Will still take a look at MBA, I can always do it.

 

[Toastedlightly]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
Because we have this culture today that says everyone should go to college, when really many should not. And they'd be better served just entering the work force or learning some trade than being saddled with debt (even with a degree in something they aren't passionate about).

Winnar! The folks who think specific knowledge taught in a university beyond the basic tools is important to employers, regardless of profession, are only deceiving themselves and yes, that includes engineers and doctors.

as an engineer, I also agree that is the only answer to this moran.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
Because we have this culture today that says everyone should go to college, when really many should not. And they'd be better served just entering the work force or learning some trade than being saddled with debt (even with a degree in something they aren't passionate about).

Winnar! The folks who think specific knowledge taught in a university beyond the basic tools is important to employers, regardless of profession, are only deceiving themselves and yes, that includes engineers and doctors.

as an engineer, I also agree that is the only answer to this moran.

Agreed, quite a bit of what I learned in my engineering classes is relevant to my career as an engineer.

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
Because we have this culture today that says everyone should go to college, when really many should not. And they'd be better served just entering the work force or learning some trade than being saddled with debt (even with a degree in something they aren't passionate about).

Winnar! The folks who think specific knowledge taught in a university beyond the basic tools is important to employers, regardless of profession, are only deceiving themselves and yes, that includes engineers and doctors.

as an engineer, I also agree that is the only answer to this moran.

Agreed, quite a bit of what I learned in my engineering classes is relevant to my career as an engineer.

How much do you actualy recal?

 

[Fox5]

Because someone getting a college degree, even barely passing, is still better educated than 70% of the country.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

There seems to be some misunderstanding about what "basic tools" are. Universities teach what they always have taught, that is, how to learn.

The basic tools are the math, problem solving and, functioning under perceived pressure. The more academically intensive fields, engineering, medicine and, the law drastically increase the perceived pressure to try and overcome merely understanding the basics as opposed to mastering them.

While there are a few blessed/cursed with eidetic memory, I challenge anyone else to remember specifics outside of the afore mentioned 'basics' that are not only needed but required by prospective employers.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: looker001
How much do you actualy recal?

there's a reason these things called books exist

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
GPA doesn't matter, lol.

exactly....

no in the real world gives two shits about. Once you had your first job, you can no longer ride your GPA or i went to this college card.

...Unless your tyring to get into grad school to you know, get a worthwhile degree.

 

[Toastedlightly]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
Because we have this culture today that says everyone should go to college, when really many should not. And they'd be better served just entering the work force or learning some trade than being saddled with debt (even with a degree in something they aren't passionate about).

Winnar! The folks who think specific knowledge taught in a university beyond the basic tools is important to employers, regardless of profession, are only deceiving themselves and yes, that includes engineers and doctors.

as an engineer, I also agree that is the only answer to this moran.

Agreed, quite a bit of what I learned in my engineering classes is relevant to my career as an engineer.

How much do you actualy recal?

Well, I'm a student right now (in Chemical Engineer), heading off to my first job this summer/fall.

How do you expect me to just invent or improve a process without knowing chemistry? Without knowing thermodynamics? Without knowing local laws and legislation?

You seem to think that a college degree is worthless. Some of them may be, but an engineering position requires utilization of many skills that are learned in classes.

And about the recalling, I'm a junior now, and I recall a large deal from my first chemistry class which I had fall of my freshman year.
So

 

[IceBergSLiM]

2 types of people make money in this world.

1) entrepreneurs

2) people with deeply specialized advanced degrees

GPA isn't even in the equation everyone else falls into "average" at the end of the day.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
There seems to be some misunderstanding about what "basic tools" are. Universities teach what they always have taught, that is, how to learn.

The basic tools are the math, problem solving and, functioning under perceived pressure. The more academically intensive fields, engineering, medicine and, the law drastically increase the perceived pressure to try and overcome merely understanding the basics as opposed to mastering them.

While there are a few blessed/cursed with eidetic memory, I challenge anyone else to remember specifics outside of the afore mentioned 'basics' that are not only needed but required by prospective employers.

Again, you are talking about something you know nothing about.

I remember numerous accounting/economics/finance/strategic mgmt/ecommerce/entrepreneurial concepts/principals from school and use them daily for work.

 

[Fingolfin269]

A degree in and of itself is worthless so who cares.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
2 types of people make money in this world.

1) entrepreneurs

2) people with deeply specialized advanced degrees

GPA isn't even in the equation everyone else falls into "average" at the end of the day.

Where do CEOs fall in your two categories?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
There seems to be some misunderstanding about what "basic tools" are. Universities teach what they always have taught, that is, how to learn.

The basic tools are the math, problem solving and, functioning under perceived pressure. The more academically intensive fields, engineering, medicine and, the law drastically increase the perceived pressure to try and overcome merely understanding the basics as opposed to mastering them.

While there are a few blessed/cursed with eidetic memory, I challenge anyone else to remember specifics outside of the afore mentioned 'basics' that are not only needed but required by prospective employers.

Again, you are talking about something you know nothing about.

I remember numerous accounting/economics/finance/strategic mgmt/ecommerce/entrepreneurial concepts/principals from school and use them daily for work.

Sigh. We're talking about the same thing. Problem solving (also referred to as the scientific method) doesn't exist in a vacuum. You don't reinvent the wheel every time you have a new problem. It is necessary in many fields to have a working knowledge of what has gone before but, knowledge of what the original wheel was built from is not.

One of the most critical and least required specific knowledge in all fields is ethics. While some schools have begun to address this need, they concentrate only on minimizing the potential financial risk to an organization rather than a tool to build better management.

 

[CrazyLazy]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
2 types of people make money in this world.

1) entrepreneurs

2) people with deeply specialized advanced degrees

GPA isn't even in the equation everyone else falls into "average" at the end of the day.

Where do CEOs fall in your two categories?

3) People whose parents did #1 or #2.

 

[markgm]

I've never been asked for proof of my diploma by any job I worked at, let alone my GPA.