Why do Californians not mind the long commutes?

[Ornery]

"The tree huggers complain about california just as much. your entire argument is flawed.

It's not an argument, it's just ironic! The biggest concentration of eco-nuts, dwells among the biggest wasters of fuel.

 

[Garuda]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Isn't it ironic the state with the highest density of tree huggers, greenies, and eco-terrorists, is where the highest volume of fuel is wasted commuting? Hypocritical SOBs bitching about the rest of the country buying SUVs. All the while squandering twice as much fuel on their two hour daily commutes, as the midwest soccer mom in her full size SUV.

Best post on this thread. :thumbsup:

 

[habib89]

oh man.. i love the girls here.. but that's besides the point

i think it's due to how expensive the metro areas are.. ie a lot of people work in san francisco downtown, but there's no way all of them can live here.. so they have to commute.. you live like 30 - 45 minutes away, and it gets cheaper.. i think that's just sorta standard.. as far as a big business development in the last 50 years, i'd have to say anything happening in silicon valley right now.. the big computer boom.. people have to come from all around to work there.. i'm not really sure what your professor is specifically refering to..

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: jagec
"length" isn't so much distance as time.

Believe me, the traffic in LA makes NYC look like a ghost town.

NYC's subway system makes LA's subway system look like... wait, does LA have a subway? I dunno, I wouldn't want to commute to NYC every day - I used to commute in the same direction as the NY traffic but halfway across NJ, and it was still stop and go every afternoon.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Garuda

Originally posted by: Ornery
Isn't it ironic the state with the highest density of tree huggers, greenies, and eco-terrorists, is where the highest volume of fuel is wasted commuting? Hypocritical SOBs bitching about the rest of the country buying SUVs. All the while squandering twice as much fuel on their two hour daily commutes, as the midwest soccer mom in her full size SUV.

Best post on this thread. :thumbsup:

i don't see how. the targets are the soccer moms in suvs doing the commuting in areas where a little drizzle is about as bad as it gets much like other parts of the country where most do not drive offroad and in a huge state with a enormous population you think the density of eco peeps is high? i haven't seen any recently just more simplistic cali bashing and go ahead, find the stats on energy use. californians use less energy per head then most any state.

 

[zoiks]

Because there aint no decent mass transportation system in place. The bay area simply is the worst when it comes to future planning.

 

[Ornery]

There are more eco-freaks in CA than any other state. This topic is about mind numbingly long daily commutes by... Californians! The very same people wasting countless gallons of gasoline on these journeys, in their econoboxes, are the first to bash midwest soccer moms for driving inefficient SUVs. Matters not, that the SUVs probably only use a few hundred gallons per year. Can't let that fact get in the way of their SUV bashing fits.

 

[Stark]

Originally posted by: zoiks
Because there aint no decent mass transportation system in place. The bay area simply is the worst when it comes to future planning.

at least there's bart. try to get to downtown LA from LAX or Ontario on public transportation.
I double dog dare you.

 

californians use less energy per head then most any state.

Primarily because it costs 3 times as much, they have no choice.

I'm just poking fun. Realitically, california is low in the per capita energy usage due to its progressive energy conservation legislation.

 

[marcello]

Originally posted by: Ornery
There are more eco-freaks in CA than any other state. This topic is about mind numbingly long daily commutes by... Californians! The very same people wasting countless gallons of gasoline on these journeys, in their econoboxes, are the first to bash midwest soccer moms for driving inefficient SUVs. Matters not, that the SUVs probably only use a few hundred gallons per year. Can't let that fact get in the way of their SUV bashing fits.

Well you know what? Considering we're carrying this nation on our backs, we can bitch all we want. We've earned that right.

To the topic creator: one event that has changed the Californians commute is the technology boom, especially in Silicon Valley. The last fifteen years have been ridiculous here. Housing costs are huge, so many people (especially teachers) have to live far away just to be able to afford housing. It's not a good situation.

 

[Ornery]

Whatever you say, Jane, Barbara, or whoever your current idol is!

 

[cHeeZeFacTory]

Originally posted by: z0mb13
this will change when gas prices skyrocket

when? it's already $2.50/gal here in LA. If they're going to skyrocket, I better trade my car in for that hybrid.

 

[GoSharks]

Originally posted by: Ornery
There are more eco-freaks in CA than any other state. This topic is about mind numbingly long daily commutes by... Californians! The very same people wasting countless gallons of gasoline on these journeys, in their econoboxes, are the first to bash midwest soccer moms for driving inefficient SUVs.

there are also more people in CA than any other state .

anyways, what can really be done about lengthy commutes? without increasing population density or redeveloping the entire state, im afraid there is not much that can be done with current technologies and social aspects.

 

[0roo0roo]

look we are 47th most thrifty when it comes to electrical energy use alone. get over it

 

[StageLeft]

I drive about 70 minutes/day just to get to work and back and frankly it doesn't bother me at all. It would be nice to live just around the corner, but a short commute can be nice. Mine is longer than I'd love, but 15 minutes is almost ideal.

 

[SuperTool]

I do mind L.A. commute, so I am in SF bay area.
"Nice" thing about the bay area is that it's expensive all over, so there is not much point to commute from far away to save money on housing. I used to commute from Hollywood to Irvine in LA for a summer internship and I hated it.
Here I have 5 min commute by car and 20 min by bike. It helps that I work 10-7 instead of 8-5. God bless flexible work hours.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: jadinolf
22 miles one way.

Commute time one and a half hours.

So wonderful.

I live in the same city as my school and it takes me over an hour.

 

[Dragnov]

Most people work in the cities, while live in the outlying suburbs.

 

[Ornery]

The suburbs' stake in the city

• U.S. Census Bureau reported that 31 percent of Clevelanders lived in poverty in 2003
• They hope the suburbs will help the city to find answers. But why should they?
• Unemployment was running at 17 percent, and nearly 80 percent of city women who gave birth were not married.
• Only 15 percent of Greater Clevelanders live in the city anymore. Step into the suburbs in the eight-county area, and life gets decidedly better.

Screw the city, who needs it?

"...we are 47th most thrifty when it comes to electrical energy use..."

You are NUMBER ONE for bitching about SUVs. When I hear the last of that, you'll hear the last of me ranting about the hypocrisy of pointing fingers at SUV driving soccer moms for wasting fuel.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: z0mb13
this will change when gas prices skyrocket

how so? i live about 15 miles from work and school. i dont go to school or work any less frequetly since gas prices went up

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: deftron
Two words:

California girls

Three more words:

Are mindless sluts.

you say that as if its a bad thing

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
anyways,
hey nutbucket, i thought you attend cal poly pomona. Walnut and DB are NICE areas
well, pomona and them are pretty ghetto, but walnut and the residential areas around Mt. sucaSac are really nice. And isn't cal poly more towards the nicer area? It doesn't seem like it's in pomona.

Lets see. Roasting hot valley vs. 2 miles from the beach. Take your pick

 

[JulesMaximus]

Your professor is a fvcking moron. Nobody likes a long commute. We do it because we like living in CA and the jobs pay higher here but the homes cost quite a bit more than the higher income scale so many of us live out in the desert where housing is cheaper. Unfortunately, there is no decent public transportation from those areas to the work centers so we sit in our cars for hours each day just to get to and from work.

BTW-I live in north county San Diego (coastal ) and work 12 miles from my home. It takes me about 20 minutes to get to work. I did the long commute thing for a while though and it sucked ass. I hated it with a passion.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Ornery
The suburbs' stake in the city

• U.S. Census Bureau reported that 31 percent of Clevelanders lived in poverty in 2003
• They hope the suburbs will help the city to find answers. But why should they?
• Unemployment was running at 17 percent, and nearly 80 percent of city women who gave birth were not married.
• Only 15 percent of Greater Clevelanders live in the city anymore. Step into the suburbs in the eight-county area, and life gets decidedly better.

Screw the city, who needs it?

"...we are 47th most thrifty when it comes to electrical energy use..."

You are NUMBER ONE for bitching about SUVs. When I hear the last of that, you'll hear the last of me ranting about the hypocrisy of pointing fingers at SUV driving soccer moms for wasting fuel.

The Californians blasting SUVs are doing so because they see so many of them on the roads with them, in CALIFORNIA. You really think that California is some SUV-free state and all hatred towards SUV drivers comes from California and is directed towards other states?

Half the cars on the road in this state are SUVs. Some people complain about them, and some people drive them. The people who own the SUVs are not the ones complaining about them. You're likely bitching to several Californians who drive SUVs in trhis thread, at least as much so as you're bitching to Californians who don't drive SUVs.

 

[Ornery]

No, I'm only bitching at the hypocrites, so if the shoe doesn't fit...