Why do blacks vote Democrats?

[sm625]

Why do they buy $3000 rims?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Your white guilt is suffocating. Racial awareness and sensitivity is great and commendable but please don't confuse your guilt as being common or expected of all U.S. Caucasians.

I just tire of so much guilt induced phony bullshit that only serves to ease guilt rather than foster genuine understanding and compassion that I want to scream politically incorrect stuff. I think the targets of the phony bullshit from white guilters see through it right away and is a source of many lols behind closed doors and then a source of offense.

Not sure if this applies to you, just saying....

It doesn't. Or I'll say it doesn't and believe myself. What do I have to feel guilty for? Like everyone, I'm a product of neighborhoods, situations, the world I live in.

But I was stunned at the injustice of the "Riverside Three."

I had a friend -- mixed race three ways of white, black and Native American. Ex-Marine Viet-veteran like one of those "Three." I knew him well, and I knew how he thought and reacted.

He would go into a Maryland convenience store, find he was short of cash, pull out his MasterCard (with his high FICO), and either see -- or just imagine -- that he was getting strange looks from the counter girl.

He could "never be sure;" and I realized then -- I could never be sure about the nature of the event. Was he imagining it? Maybe. Or was his assessment correct? Maybe.

That was the 1980s. In the '60s, I was hitchhiking home from college, and I got stuck on a curb among so many freeway interchanges in the Bay Area, it looked like that's all there was for miles. I had a paperback -- a Friedrich Durrenmatt classic. I'd scrawled the word "Stranded" on one of the blank pages, hoping to just get a ride to a 7/11 so I could get something cold to drink. A carload of young black men pulled up. I went to the window to speak to the driver. He spat in my face.

You don't need to be "guilty." You don't need to be "politically correct."

But in this country, with its history, you need to be aware of the subtle nature of things. Because -- in many cases -- it is very subtle.

I was examining my remark about achieving blacks. Immediately, when some Caucasians see that kind of achievement, there's this assumption that "he/she just benefited from 'Affirmative Action.' Nothing really there."

If you go into black neighborhoods -- like the "East Side" I mentioned -- you'll find a whole range of people who don't fit that profile. You can caricature them; make snide remarks that so-and-so is a "blue-gum." You can sneer about some video take of some black kids on a street corner, with one of them twirling around on his back -- "break-dancing."

But I think it's important every now and then, to remember this long history and try to look at it through brown eyes. Or to imagine what it might have been like -- 30 years ago versus today -- if you had "minority skin."

On the "$3,000 rims" issue, it's not about being black so much. Ask yourself why my high-school friend (Caucasian) who scammed old people in insurance premiums and worth maybe $10 million, has a garage full of Ferraris. Is it "useful?" Just to him.

I had another white friend, Viet Vet, trained Chevy mechanic -- who found a rotting old '55 Bel-Air on blocks one day. He put a Hurst Tranny in it, brand new short-block engine, black-satin button-tuck interior -- practically took the skin off his hands turning rust into shiny steel for the paint job. And -- he put $3,000 rims on the car.

Look at yourself. So . . . freakin' . . . .what?! It's the old "blacks with Cadillacs" story. "Oh! It's probably not paid for!"

Look at the asshole who didn't budget money for his unnecessary war. Race doesn't matter -- lack of financial wisdom infects all kinds. But just because you see those $3,000 rims, can you simply assume "they weren't paid for?" Or "It must be drug money?"

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

It doesn't. Or I'll say it doesn't and believe myself. What do I have to feel guilty for? Like everyone, I'm a product of neighborhoods, situations, the world I live in.

But I was stunned at the injustice of the "Riverside Three."

I had a friend -- mixed race three ways of white, black and Native American. Ex-Marine Viet-veteran like one of those "Three." I knew him well, and I knew how he thought and reacted.

He would go into a Maryland convenience store, find he was short of cash, pull out his MasterCard (with his high FICO), and either see -- or just imagine -- that he was getting strange looks from the counter girl.

He could "never be sure;" and I realized then -- I could never be sure about the nature of the event. Was he imagining it? Maybe. Or was his assessment correct? Maybe.

Are you fucking serious?

Tell me you're not serious..

PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE NOT SERIOUS!!!!

Wow davmat hit the nail on the head with you and white guilt.

 

[CitizenKain]

Blacks aren't dumb and are simply responding to incentives. Things like the minimum wage make getting a job less appealing than selling drugs or smuggling illegal guns, the value of which are all distorted compared to the free market.

Most of the liberal policies in this country are mainly designed to make the life of liberal whites more comfortable at the cost of minorities--they don't like to see people hustling on the streets as entrepreneurs or minorities to enter the middle class like they did through blue collar work like meat packing, mining, and manufacturing, so they enact heavy business regulations and a minimum wage, and prefer anyone else not productive enough to make minimum wage to stay out of their sight and collect welfare checks. All in the name of a sterile and "comfortable environment" for tree hugging white liberals.

Whatever drugs you do to come up with someone so inane must be amazing.

Republicans have been the party of racists for over 50 years now, and every year they work to top themselves.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Whatever drugs you do to come up with someone so inane must be amazing.

Republicans have been the party of racists for over 50 years now, and every year they work to top themselves.

Then answer why the most liberal places in the NORTH that have a high population of black people are complete shit holes (Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, etc...)

Please. Do tell. :awe:

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Are you fucking serious?

Tell me you're not serious..

PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE NOT SERIOUS!!!!

Wow davmat hit the nail on the head with you and white guilt.

See -- a lot of conservatives latch on to one event. Suddenly, the one event explains all.

I look at the world around my as a pile of statistical distributions. What is merely possible in the sieve? What is absolutely not possible? What are the odds of this? What are the odds of that?

Did I say "Oh! the cashier was a bigot?" No. I was describing a paranoid reaction. Perhaps I might have said "paranoid."

We're talking past each other. This isn't about "guilt." It's about perceptions.

Do you REALLY think, that REAL bigots go around saying "Hey! I'm a bigot?" Of course not. People aren't mind readers, and half the time, they're not even aware of thoughts in their own head which don't even exist there as coherent sentences of words. Situations arise that give way to paranoid thoughts.

Frankly, when I read your post, davmat's -- others I've seen here, you folks have a deficit for logical thought.

You've just got some ax to grind. I can imagine somebody thinking in the aftermath of Charleston: "Oh! What's the big deal? Look at black on black crime! That's the key! That's the 'answer!'"

You probably think "I'm tired of all this discussion about race. We're pandering and ingratiating to folks -- giving them an inch so they can take a light year."

There was a time I may have had the same attitude myself. What I've seen since 2010 in the political frenzy, and now with Charleston -- the Zimmerman trial -- I'm a bit stunned by it all. Like I said -- I thought this was all behind us.

YOU can't be sure. I can't be sure. Tell ya what, though. If I have to describe myself these days, I use the word "Caucasian." If it were a matter of sentiment, -- I'll actually say I'm "black in spirit." That's just a conscious decision of attitude. Next, you're going to accuse me of something like that woman up in Seattle with her NAACP scam."

So then, you'll say "that's white guilt." No. It's a reaction of disgust. I'll even venture to say your useless remarks disgust me to some extent.

We're talking past each other here.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I have an idea everyone who wants to know why blacks vote Democrat why don't they call or see a black man or woman and ask instead of neffing around here.

 

[fskimospy]

Then answer why the most liberal places in the NORTH that have a high population of black people are complete shit holes (Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, etc...)

Please. Do tell. :awe:

Chicago is an amazing city, are you nuts?

By the way, what area of the country do you live in? I'm just curious how it stacks up against those 'shit holes'. (many of which you've probably never even set foot in)

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Chicago is an amazing city, are you nuts?

By the way, what area of the country do you live in? I'm just curious how it stacks up against those 'shit holes'. (many of which you've probably never even set foot in)

There's the crucial point you made. The attitudes are shaped by a lack of familiarity, and familiarity either arises from opportunity or a presence.

They look at stereotypes of neighborhoods from a distance. The emphasis is on "distance." It becomes an abstraction.

Take, for instance, this accusation about "white guilt." There it is right there -- "racial identity."

I had a Korean-American associate -- a financial analyst -- who once remarked "This will all take care of itself eventually through intermarriage -- when everybody is the same color." I couldn't wrap my brain around it.

I've always had a preference for blue-eyed blond women. With more and more blacks in the spotlight of the entertainment business, that's changed considerably. I'm more "eclectic" in my tastes.

The reason people make insinuations of "white guilt" is because they identify as "white." That was the point of my remark about "Caucasian."

My mother's family settled in Dumfries, VA around 1690. They had slaves. in 1692, they, their slaves -- everyone -- were wiped out in an Indian raid. Only my great, great . . . .etc. grandfather survived. I didn't even know any of this until after I bought my first house -- barely 5 miles from there. Today, there are roads in Virginia named after the family.

do I feel "guilty" because of that old history? That was just a status-quo of the 17th century. Did Thomas Jefferson "feel guilty?" Perhaps. He said so. That was his own problem, or a problem of "enlightened conscience." I don't disparage him for it. It was just one person of privilege, reacting by conscience, to the status quo of the time.

But who needs a "racial identity?" People like Dylan Roof, and his poor, cornpone, unemployed existence and lack of self-esteem. I'm a "citizen of the World." If we want to talk about patriotism, I place an equal value on the Truth.

So "White guilt," like someone shooting himself in the foot, is playing that old card without realizing it. In a card game -- poker -- you'd call it a "tell." And they don't even see it themselves. Just as I said earlier.

 

[davmat787]

Over the years I've read so many comments here in regards to the south and the high rates of racism there. Historical facts and tragedies of this issue and region is not being disputed.

But doesn't it stand to reason that more blacks and whites coexist peacefully and with respect in the south more than any other region? Demographics seem to bear this out.

A friend from the south had me thinking about this when he remarked about blacks and whites living, working, and going through life there while to many who disparage the south interact with blacks to a much smaller degree or even theoretically than the southerners they love to disparage for assumed racism.

Thought it interesting.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Chicago is an amazing city, are you nuts?

By the way, what area of the country do you live in? I'm just curious how it stacks up against those 'shit holes'. (many of which you've probably never even set foot in)

Chicago is nice if you're in the right area or if you are at Wrigley Field. I freaking love a good Cubs game. If your a black person though... it's not so amazing..... :whiste:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago

(2005) Victims of gang-related murders: 70% Black, 26% Hispanic, 3% White; 93% male. Offenders in gang-related murders: 76% African American, 20% Hispanic, 3% white; 99% male. Victims of domestic-related murders: 79% African American, 10% Hispanic, 11% white. Victims of armed robbery—related murders: 68% African American, 13% Hispanic, 19% white, 89% male. Offenders in armed robbery—related murders: 87% African American, 9% Hispanic, 4% white; 93% male.[11]

Murder rates in Chicago vary greatly depending on the neighborhood in question. Many neighborhoods on the South Side tend to be poorer, less educated, predominantly African American, and infested with street gangs.[12] The neighborhoods of Austin on the west side and Englewood on the near South Side, for example, have homicide rates that are 10 times higher than other parts of the city.[13] Violence in these neighborhoods has had a detrimental impact on the academic performance of children in schools, as well as a higher financial burden for school districts in need of counselors, social workers, and psychiatrists to help children cope with the violence.[14]

In addition to crimes, the tax rates there are ridiculous. You want to talk about poor people that can't get out of their situation? Try 10.25%+ sales tax - the highest in the nation. 16.4% Hotel tax....

In addition to COUNTLESS other additional taxes such as "Water Bottle tax". This place is ridiculous.

 

[fskimospy]

Over the years I've read so many comments here in regards to the south and the high rates of racism there.

But doesn't it stand to reason that more blacks and whites coexist peacefully and with respect in the south more than any other region? Demographics seem to bear this out.

A friend from the south had me thinking about this when he remarked about blacks and whites living, working, and going through life there while to many who disparage the south interact with blacks to a much smaller degree or even theoretically than the southerners they love to disparage for assumed racism.

Thought it interesting.

What metrics are you using to come to these conclusions?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

There's the crucial point you made. The attitudes are shaped by a lack of familiarity, and familiarity either arises from opportunity or a presence.

For god sakes get off your crack pipe in your everlong posts of uselessness, generalizations, and white guilt. You have zero clue what you are talking about. You are the poster child for a white guilt fool whom thinks he knows what it's like to be black and oppressed. So you try to sympathize with them on everything.

I have been to Chicago countless times on business and for pleasure. Nice try toolbag.

 

[fskimospy]

Chicago is nice if you're in the right area or if you are at Wrigley Field. I freaking love a good Cubs game. If your a black person though... it's not so amazing..... :whiste:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago

In addition to crimes, the tax rates there are ridiculous. You want to talk about poor people that can't get out of their situation? Try 10.25%+ sales tax - the highest in the nation. 16.4% Hotel tax....

In addition to COUNTLESS other additional taxes such as "Water Bottle tax". This place is ridiculous.

You said Chicago was a 'shit hole'. Now you appear to be changing that to 'certain areas that have high concentrations of black people have higher crime', which is a totally different statement. (also not sure why a hotel tax means the place is a shit hole. what?)

Again, can I ask what area of the country you live in? You don't have to be super specific, just trying to see what your basis for comparison is that you think Chicago is a shit hole as it's one of my favorite cities. (I lived just outside of it for a year and would totally consider moving there if they invent a weather fixing machine)

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

You said Chicago was a 'shit hole'. Now you appear to be changing that to 'certain areas that have high concentrations of black people have higher crime', which is a totally different statement. (also not sure why a hotel tax means the place is a shit hole. what?)

Again, can I ask what area of the country you live in? You don't have to be super specific, just trying to see what your basis for comparison is that you think Chicago is a shit hole as it's one of my favorite cities. (I lived just outside of it for a year and would totally consider moving there if they invent a weather fixing machine)

Yeah, just outside of Chicago is great It isn't a part of the mess. I've been there too.

I've said countless times that I'm in Texas. Not that I'm defending everything Texas does (IE: Planned Parenthood bullshit, Rick Perry, Ted Cruz) - but it sure as hell does a lot of things correctly. Namely, the recession didn't have one bit of an affect on us.

 

[davmat787]

What metrics are you using to come to these conclusions?

Population demographics, anecdotal hearsay from that conversation I mentioned, and some assumptions.

Not sure which, if any, metrics could prove or disprove this notion but given the percentage of blacks living in the south versus all other regions it stands to reason that more blacks and whites coexist respectfully and peacefully there than any other region.

The demographics and population figures does not allow the degree of racial separation that is common to other regions that have a much lower percentage of blacks in their respective populations.

Make any sense at all?

 

[fskimospy]

Yeah, just outside of Chicago is great It isn't a part of the mess. I've been there too.

I've said countless times that I'm in Texas. Not that I'm defending everything Texas does (IE: Planned Parenthood bullshit, Rick Perry, Ted Cruz) - but it sure as hell does a lot of things correctly. Namely, the recession didn't have one bit of an affect on us.

Oh to be clear if I moved back it would be in the city proper. I didn't have a choice before, haha.

Texas faring comparatively well during the recession had a lot to do with the shale oil boom. Now that it appears to be ending, Texas may be heading into a regional recession while the rest of the country continues to grow.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/18/news/economy/texas-oil-recession/

I think Texas has smarter housing policy than say, New York, but let's not confuse economic behavior during an oil boom for some broadly superior economic policy.

 

[HomerJS]

Over the years I've read so many comments here in regards to the south and the high rates of racism there. Historical facts and tragedies of this issue and region is not being disputed.

But doesn't it stand to reason that more blacks and whites coexist peacefully and with respect in the south more than any other region? Demographics seem to bear this out.

A friend from the south had me thinking about this when he remarked about blacks and whites living, working, and going through life there while to many who disparage the south interact with blacks to a much smaller degree or even theoretically than the southerners they love to disparage for assumed racism.

Thought it interesting.

Or is it blacks in the south have just resigned themselves that dealing with racism is "just how it is"

South today still gets a bad rap because they are so slow to get rid of racist policies...

Interracial marriage bans
Confederate flag flying endorsed by the state
Colleges banning interracial dating etc

 

[BonzaiDuck]

For god sakes get off your crack pipe in your everlong posts of uselessness, generalizations, and white guilt. You have zero clue what you are talking about. You are the poster child for a white guilt fool whom thinks he knows what it's like to be black and oppressed. So you try to sympathize with them on everything.

I have been to Chicago countless times on business and for pleasure. Nice try toolbag.

Once again -- talking past each other -- You played "the card" of "White guilt." You can't possibly know what it's like to be "black or oppressed." Nor can I. Are they -- "oppressed?" Some may be; some may not think so.

Then you use the term "them" -- it's all about "them" and "us." I'm not sympathizing with anyone, only to suggest there's a problem, and it's basically folks like you -- you're the problem!

Of course, there could be occasional annoyances for some of a particular complexion.

Here's an example. My friend built a French Provincial mansion in rural Virginia. Down the street, some guy had a cow pasture and a 20-car garage filled with classic rides. Beautiful neighborhood, forests -- pine trees -- solitude. There was a back road in addition to the paved gated entry.

One day, an old "cracker" and his family with Georgia plates had exited the freeway and made a wrong turn. They had the ratty mattress tied to the top of the car. Maybe a stereotype? But an accurate description in this incident -- if you want to call it that.

My friend was raking leaves in his front yard on the brisk fall morning -- lovely day, as he described it. He was actually having a good time.

The old rusty station-wagon pulled up to the house. The driver got out with his worn tee-shirt hanging off his beer-gut, and went over to my friend to ask for directions.

He looked at my friend -- oh -- I forgot -- an "African-American." With his face all screwed up and distorted with disbelief, he asked:

"Is this place . . . YOURS!? Da YOU OWN this place?!"

Another "tell." He might have just said "Sir? Can you tell me how to get back to the 95?"

Over lunch one day, my friend told me the story. He said, "You know -- I was really feeling comfortable. My neighbors are nice; I've got a great house and property. I was having a great day -- a beautiful day. And then this shithead drives up to remind me . . . again."

Do I "sympathize" with Christopher Dorner? A narcissist cop and serial killer -- who "just happens to be black?"

Frankly, when people were huddling in their mountain cabins with that episode in progress, I didn't even think about his "identity." Tell me you think I was. But would it really matter? I think he killed one local cop and wounded another on his way up to the woods. The ax he had to grind may have been for some imagined "racist" situation, but they'd already noted from his stint in the academy that he had "problems." And they graduate black cops from the academy all the time.

 

[davmat787]

Or is it blacks in the south have just resigned themselves that dealing with racism is "just how it is"

South today still gets a bad rap because they are so slow to get rid of racist policies...

Interracial marriage bans
Confederate flag flying endorsed by the state
Colleges banning interracial dating etc

I refuse to believe that racism there is so omnipresent and sourced from such a high percentage of non blacks that a wholesale acceptance among blacks has occurred.

Note that my "theory" doesn't preclude the opposite of itself: That the demographics and population figures allow for more instances of demonstrable racism simply because more blacks and non blacks interact there more than any other region simply due to the numbers.

I've been awake for 29 hours straight, hope I'm making some sense.

 

[Moonbeam]

Population demographics, anecdotal hearsay from that conversation I mentioned, and some assumptions.

Not sure which, if any, metrics could prove or disprove this notion but given the percentage of blacks living in the south versus all other regions it stands to reason that more blacks and whites coexist respectfully and peacefully there than any other region.

The demographics and population figures does not allow the degree of racial separation that is common to other regions that have a much lower percentage of blacks in their respective populations.

Make any sense at all?

Look at it this way. The South is conservative. The South is the home of slavery and the doctrine that Blacks are inferior. In an area that is conservative and racist traditionally, the children of such racists will have caught the disease in greater proportion than anywhere else.

Couple that with the fact that it is generally thought that racism is a shameful thing to have, and the fact that conservatism is transmitted by shaming kids who aren't racist and you get two things with conservative children. One is the inability to tolerate any information about themselves that is shameful and the fact that repressed shame manifests as the suspicion that others are feeling guilt.

In this way we (those without the racial disease) can easily identify those who have it when they tell us we are experiencing white guilt.

That racists will not comprehend or agree with this assessment and actually experience hatred for me for saying it, goes without question. And they won't see that either. But one needs only look at the hostility directed at those who have "this terrible disease of white guilt" to see that hatred. No self understanding is possible in the presence of a conservative brain defect. It is a a mental prison.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

A majority of blacks voted Democrat long before 1964 even though it was against their best interests. But the Civil Rights Act and LBJ's Great Society will have those "folks" voting Democrat for the next 200 years.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I refuse to believe that racism there is so omnipresent and sourced from such a high percentage of non blacks that a wholesale acceptance among blacks has occurred.

Note that my "theory" doesn't preclude the opposite of itself: That the demographics and population figures allow for more instances of demonstrable racism simply because more blacks and non blacks interact there more than any other region simply due to the numbers.

I've been awake for 29 hours straight, hope I'm making some sense.

Homer's remark that blacks became accustomed to the situation is just applicable to people of any race.

As for South Carolina, the black population there has actually decreased.

The "new South" was touted back in the '70s. A displacement in the white population occurred; Caucasians from the North moved down there -- Atlanta, Charleston, other places. So there's still an indigenous white population with the old attitudes.

They interviewed one of the latter on TV about the Obama candidacy. The guy needed s dental work: you could see some rot among the remaining front teeth. Wearing stained bib-overalls, standing in front of his barn, he looked pensive for a minute, then began to talk about "the candidate:"

"Well, ya see . . . . he's a half-breee-eed!"

If you had asked me before the church shooting about the Confederate flag, I would've made some mildly disparaging remark about it. I've known all sorts of people who participate in "Gettysburg re-enactments" -- grand arrays gathered on the Manassas battlefield.

But there are two populations of folks for which it holds a different meaning. Needn't describe the first. The second group would rather fly the old red, white and black flag of the Reich. What they'd done, though, knowing that hanging that banner off the back of their big 'ol truck: they started flying the stars and bars as kind of a code-symbol.

They can still do that. I went down to the Plaza about a year ago to my favorite Mexican restaurant. Some guy had parked his red F-350 there, with the Marine Corp flag side by side with the Stars and Bars.

I didn't like it. I was thinking -- I had a lighter in my pocket. Just for a minute, just for a minute -- I had thoughts of "lighting it up." But that's just a thought. Of course I wouldn't. Even without witnesses. I didn't like the idea of flying the red Marine-Corps banners side by side with the other flag, which I'd already concluded was a "code symbol."

But that's not too different than choosing the Stars-and-Bars for a Swastika-proxy. A court ruled some years ago that you can't fly the Swastika across the street from a synagogue. You could fly it anywhere else, and suffer the verbal wrath of certain people.

This would never have become an issue had not Roof gone into that church and killed nine people.

On the demography, note that Nikki Haley is an "Indian-American" -- distinguished from a Native American. And -- she's GOP. But she reminisced about growing up in the state, and quick to conclude that the flag should come down.

Free speech is fine. I often think it can be a time-waster, when flat-worlders keep distracting from more important things with ridiculous nonsense, but -- it's guar-an-teed.

Yet it should have a sense of responsibility attached to it. So when some pudd'n-head posts his stars-and-bars pictures, gets a gun he would've been denied but for a fluke, and kills nine people -- attentions are focused.

In this case, it raised a consciousness about what the stars-and-bars mean for "the other group."

On the matter of demography and familiarity, I remember when the election results of the 2008 election were coming in, and I was watching West Virginia -- a place I'd visited -- a place where there are some nice people as well as some which fit the old stereotype used in hill-billy jokes. I was wondering why a state like West Virginia would come in solidly behind the GOP candidate, so I did some research.

WV has a black population of 4%. What percentage of the white population would've swung Left in the election, had the mix been more like 30%? I emphasize "white population" for the statistic, because we know most of the blacks would vote for O.

Why? He's a smart fellow. And there'd never been a black candidate before. Compare him to Sarah Palin, there's a stark contrast of "better . . . and worse." The footnote about McCain: I used to respect him. That respect has dwindled with me.

 

[fskimospy]

A majority of blacks voted Democrat long before 1964 even though it was against their best interests. But the Civil Rights Act and LBJ's Great Society will have those "folks" voting Democrat for the next 200 years.

I imagine you're referencing the fact that black people have voted majority Democratic in presidential elections since FDR. Why would that have been against their best interests?

Presumably you mean that by 'against their best interests' majorities of black people were voting for Democrats in the south, as northern Democrats didn't really have the same anti-black, segregationist issues. Considering that black voters in the south were nearly entirely disenfranchised during this period and I'm not aware of any evidence that indicates black people were voting for Democrats that were pursuing racist policies that Republicans disfavored, what's the basis for this?

I think you may be very confused about what you're looking at here.

 

[davmat787]

Look at it this way. The South is conservative. The South is the home of slavery and the doctrine that Blacks are inferior. In an area that is conservative and racist traditionally, the children of such racists will have caught the disease in greater proportion than anywhere else.

Couple that with the fact that it is generally thought that racism is a shameful thing to have, and the fact that conservatism is transmitted by shaming kids who aren't racist and you get two things with conservative children. One is the inability to tolerate any information about themselves that is shameful and the fact that repressed shame manifests as the suspicion that others are feeling guilt.

In this way we (those without the racial disease) can easily identify those who have it when they tell us we are experiencing white guilt.

That racists will not comprehend or agree with this assessment and actually experience hatred for me for saying it, goes without question. And they won't see that either. But one needs only look at the hostility directed at those who have this terrible disease of white guilt to see that hatred. No self understanding is possible in the presence of a conservative brain defect. It is a a mental prison.

The south WAS, not is, the home to American slavery. Other homes of slavery existed around the globe, Morocco and the wholesale enslavement of Europeans comes to mind.

I have never been to the South, I should point that out. However over the years I've seen countless examples of the south of today being convicted for crimes that occurred hundreds of years ago. How can current southerners move forward and shed the dark cloak of the past when assholes always throw it back in their faces as if people of today have any culpability for sins committed centuries ago?

It's very depressing just how many people automatically assume everyone in the south of today is as racist as their counterparts of 100 or 200 years ago. The level of stereotyping and acceptance of it is incredibly damning of those participating in it.

And I love how you built in a "if you disagree with me you're racist and proves me right too!" clause to your comment. Classic moonbeam.

The amount of hubris needed to even think of some of the things, let alone post, things you say is mind boggling.