Why do Americans react so negatively to immigration?

Savij

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It seems like whenever a large group of people start to enter the US, there is a fairly strong negative reaction to that group. During the gold rush period, anything that could have been done to hold the chineese down was done. Then there were the Irish and the italians, and they were treated like the scum of the earth. So why do Americans seem to fear immigration so much?
 

Electric Amish

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Same reason any country would. Immigrant workers tend to take away jobs because they are usually willing to work harder, longer, and for less pay.

This is one of the reason's Unions were formed.
 

Ranger X

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Same reason any country would. Immigrant workers tend to take away jobs because they are usually willing to work harder, longer, and for less pay.

This is one of the reason's Unions were formed.
 

TubStain

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Same reason any country would. Immigrant workers tend to take away jobs because they are usually willing to work harder, longer, and for less pay.

While at the same time, creating more demand, opening new businesses that create employment and more people getting taxed (legal immigrants) which means more money for government.

weird why they oppose it so much.
 

waylman

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Same reason any country would. Immigrant workers tend to take away jobs because they are usually willing to work harder, longer, and for less pay.

This is one of the reason's Unions were formed.

in other words, americans are lazy, money grubbing bitches...oh, and racist.
 

LemonHead

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I don't think the issue is "Legal" immigrents that Americans have a problem with it's the "illegal" ones. I'm in California and the whole drivers licence thing to illegals is just way screwed up.
 

digitalsm

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Ummm, you should really ask why does the rest of the world except for by and large the US and Canada have extremely strict immigration policies?

Frankly the US needs to tighten up immigration requirements, as well as starting a serious effort to curb illegal immigration.
 

Hammer

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Originally posted by: LemonHead
I don't think the issue is "Legal" immigrents that Americans have a problem with it's the "illegal" ones. I'm in California and the whole drivers licence thing to illegals is just way screwed up.

you need a driver's license to get insurance right? would you rather they be driving around un-insured?
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Ummm, you should really ask why does the rest of the world except for by and large the US and Canada have extremely strict immigration policies?

Frankly the US needs to tighten up immigration requirements, as well as starting a serious effort to curb illegal immigration.

Agreed. I have no problem with legal immigrants who come here the correct way to make something of themselves in this country. I have a lot of respect for them. Illegals, on the other hand are just that..."Illegals". They should not be here in the first place. If they want the same rights and privledges as legal immigrants and citizens do, they should go about it in the right way. They should not expect us to accept them or cut them any slack if they dont.
And as per the drivers liscense thing, I dont believe that is right. Illegals shouldnt be able to get liscenses because they shouldnt be here to drive in the first place. If they are here illegally, why would they bother to obey insurance law? Not to say that there arent any illegal immigrants that are responsible and really want to make a life for themselves here, but it seems that something needs to be done to curb this problem. We need to provide more recources to get rid of the backlog of immigration applications so people wont have to try to immigrate illegally. That way the ones that do will be the ones we dont want here anyway and we would have no problem deporting them.
 

LemonHead

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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: LemonHead I don't think the issue is "Legal" immigrents that Americans have a problem with it's the "illegal" ones. I'm in California and the whole drivers licence thing to illegals is just way screwed up.
you need a driver's license to get insurance right? would you rather they be driving around un-insured?

You think that an illegal alien (yea, let's just call it like it is) is going to bother getting insurance?? There are probably a lot more people driving without insurance anyway and have a license. That line of reasoning is exactly what Gov, Gumby Davis wants to spout, not to mention that now it becomes very easy for illegals to vote! All you need is a photo ID to prove resedency and you're in.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Hammer
Originally posted by: LemonHead
I don't think the issue is "Legal" immigrents that Americans have a problem with it's the "illegal" ones. I'm in California and the whole drivers licence thing to illegals is just way screwed up.

you need a driver's license to get insurance right? would you rather they be driving around un-insured?

LMAO

An illegal with insurance. Usually a family of 10 will share one social security number and one drivers license. I've never met any with any insurance and I used to work and hang out with a bunch of them.
 

DT4K

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Because if we share our piece of the pie we end up with a smaller piece.
 

Amused

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This is funny. EVERY country's population has had resentment of immigrants... even to the point of violence. Germany and France come to mind as big examples of this. To single out the US is just plain biased.



 

LemonHead

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Originally posted by: Shanti
Because if we share our piece of the pie we end up with a smaller piece.

No, because if you are here illegally you usually get paid under the table and you don't pay any taxes! Oh, and you also get free education for your kids and free health care!
 

amnesiac

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I don't like the illegal latino immigrants in CA because:

1) Most are in poverty
1a) Increased crime rate
1b) Impedance of city improvement to problem areas
2) Leech off of public money (welfare, schools)
3) Jobs that could and should be available to people who need them go to illegals
4) MENcHA is trying to overthrow California
5) Drive without licenses and without insurance, get into accidents, and raise our already bloated premiums

Want me to go on?
 

xochi

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Originally posted by: Amused
This is funny. EVERY country's population has had resentment of immigrants... even to the point of violence. Germany and France come to mind as big examples of this. To single out the US is just plain biased.


you are corret

dont forget the English and their resentment of Indians.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: LemonHead
Originally posted by: Shanti
Because if we share our piece of the pie we end up with a smaller piece.

No, because if you are here <STRONG>illegally</STRONG> you usually get paid under the table and you don't pay any taxes! Oh, and you also get free education for your kids and free health care!

More of them pay in to the system and don't collect because their employers take out taxes on a fake social security number...


Next?
 

xochi

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Originally posted by: amnesiac
I don't like the illegal latino immigrants in CA because:

1) Most are in poverty
1a) Increased crime rate
1b) Impedance of city improvement to problem areas
2) Leech off of public money (welfare, schools)
3) Jobs that could and should be available to people who need them go to illegals
4) MENcHA is trying to overthrow California
5) Drive without licenses and without insurance, get into accidents, and raise our already bloated premiums

Want me to go on?


yes please do it might make you feel better
 

Savij

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Ok, so the problem is illegals. So the solution would be to make it easier for them to enter legally, right? Then they could enter with all their papers, be registered and no one would complain?
 

Savij

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Originally posted by: Amused
This is funny. EVERY country's population has had resentment of immigrants... even to the point of violence. Germany and France come to mind as big examples of this. To single out the US is just plain biased.

Well, I singled out the US b/c that's where I live, and I believe that's where most of the members of this forum live. Frankly I don't care how France or Germany or anyone else is. I want to know about the US.
 

QueHuong

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Originally posted by: Shanti
Because if we share our piece of the pie we end up with a smaller piece.

OK, let's ask the real Americans this question. Oh wait, they've been massacred almost to extinction, and now they're living in a little patch of land in the middle of nowhere. Everyone else is an immigrant or descended from one, so they really shouldn't be pissing and moaning about new immigrants trying to make it in this country.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: amnesiac
I don't like the illegal latino immigrants in CA because:

1) Most are in poverty
1a) Increased crime rate
1b) Impedance of city improvement to problem areas
2) Leech off of public money (welfare, schools)
3) Jobs that could and should be available to people who need them go to illegals
4) MENcHA is trying to overthrow California
5) Drive without licenses and without insurance, get into accidents, and raise our already bloated premiums

Want me to go on?

1) More so than the Watts or Compton area?
1a) see 1
1b) Californians don't like to mix (Welcome to the New South) and would rather keep their minorities in low income crime infested area
2) Do away with welfare
3) No one would work as hard as them and for as little. They would rather pick up a tincup, a magic marker and a piece of cardboard
4) I'll take your word for it. never heard of them. That a Bustamente thing?
5) Improve your public transportation system and develop industry near the latino and minority communities(see 1b)