Why didn't Trump condemn white supremacists?

[HomerJS]

Are we so sure they are a white supremecist group?
I wouldn't think a white supreme group would have black members, just like the KKK wouldn't. Bye bye narrative...

Not necessarily. Back in the day there were black people that whipped other slaves.

There were white racist slave owners that had sex with black women. There were racist white politicians who had sex with black women.

bye bye your counter narrative.

 

[HomerJS]

sorry, but every single American should be anti-fascist, i know i am. i can also say that i have never in my life knowingly met or seen anyone in Antifa in real life.

Let's do a poll. Are you fascist or anti-fascist? I'm anti-fascist who is against violence in the streets.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Let's do a poll. Are you fascist or anti-fascist? I'm anti-fascist who is against violence in the streets.

Same Here.

MALF!!!
Make America less fascist.

 

[alien42]

Not going to disagree on that but you're probably not murdering people in the middle of violent protests either. Just saying if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

Antifa may be anarchists and destructive, but murder is not their schtick. causing other people physical harm isn't something they are known for, unlike white supremacists.

you continue to spew BS about Antifa in a thread about white supremacists, which i am not even sure if you have said anything about. it's almost like you are making excuses for white supremacists.

if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

 

[HomerJS]

Antifa may be anarchists and destructive, but murder is not their schtick. causing other people physical harm isn't something they are known for, unlike white supremacists.

you continue to spew BS about Antifa in a thread about white supremacists, which i am not even sure if you have said anything about. it's almost like you are making excuses for white supremacists.

if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

Trump and his lemmings keep trying to lump Antifa with the left which they are not. Another attempt to #bothsides everything, muddying the waters.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Once? LOL

1) “I am concerned about the rise of any group of hate. I don’t like it, any group of hate, whether its white supremacy, whether it’s any other kind of supremacy, whether its antifa… I am very concerned about it and I’ll do something about it.” – Business Insider, 8/7/2019
2) “The shooter in El Paso posted a manifesto online consumed by racist hate. In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America. Hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart, and devours the soul. We have asked the FBI to identify all further resources they need to investigate and disrupt hate crimes and domestic terrorism – whatever they need.” – National Review, 8/06/2019
3) “The riots in Charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division,” Trump posted on Twitter Saturday morning. “We must come together as a nation. I condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. Peace to ALL Americans!” – USA Today, 8/11/2018
4) “I want to applaud the many protestors in Boston who are speaking out against bigotry and hate. Our country will soon come together as one!” – Trump Tweet, 8/19/2017
5) “We will reject bigotry and hatred and oppression in all its forms, and seek a new future built on our common culture and values as one American people.” – Washington Examiner, 6/16/2016
6) “I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.” – Trump in his famous remarks about Charlottesville, 8/15/2017
7) “Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.” – NPR, 8/14/2017
8) “I don’t want to energize the (Alt-Right), and I disavow the group,” Trump told Baquet. “It’s not a group I want to energize, and if they are energized, I want to look into it and find out why.” Asked point-blank about the conference featuring (Richard) Spencer, Trump again disavowed any support. “I disavow and condemn them,” Trump told Times reporters. He did chide them for continuing to ask about the topic though, telling one questioner: “Boy, you are really into [this issue].” – Politico, 11/22/2016
9) “I don’t like any group of hate. Hate groups are not for me. How many times do I have to reject? I’ve rejected David Duke. I’ve rejected the KKK, the Ku Klux Klan, from the time I’m five-years-old.” – The Washington Examiner, 3/6/2016
10) “I totally disavow the Ku Klux Klan. I totally disavow David Duke.” – The Hill, 3/3/2016
11) “David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years,” Trump said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK,” Trump added. “Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now.” – CNN, 3/3/2016
12) “David Duke and all was disavowed. I disavowed him on Friday. I disavowed them right after that because I thought if there was any question and you take a look at Twitter, almost immediately after on Twitter and Facebook, they were disavowed again. I disavow him every time I speak to somebody virtually and they just keep it going.” – ABC, 3/1/2016
13) “I disavowed David Duke a day before in a major press conference, and I’m saying to myself: How many times do I have to continue to disavow people…” – NBC, 2/29/2016
14) “David Duke endorsed me? OK, alright. I disavow, OK?” – The Hill, 2/26/2016
15) “I don’t need (David Duke’s) endorsement; I certainly wouldn’t want his endorsement.” – Politico, 8/26/2015
16) “Well, you’ve got David Duke just joined (the Reform Party) – a bigot, a racist, a problem. I mean, this is not exactly the people you want in your party.” – NBC News, 2/24/2000
17) “I’ve had the chance to learn firsthand about the diversity of American culture, and it has left me with little appetite for those who hate or preach intolerance. One of our next president’s most important goals must be to induce a greater sense of tolerance for diversity.” – Donald Trump in his book, The America We Deserve, published 1/12/200

I ran your post through google and immediately got this whack job right wing site https://speakingaboutnews.com/17-times-donald-trump-has-condemned-racism-and-white-supremacy-2/

and this one https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/0...s-condemned-racism-and-white-supremacy-784419

John Hawkins is evidently a giant douche canoe. And it is good to know where you go to have your oversized amygdala exercised.

 

[Jhhnn]

John Bolton's input on this issue, and the debate in general. Well worth watching-he isn't too insufferable and makes some good points (Trump's debate performance just like any other day at the White House, for example). I agree with Bolton that the Stand by, Stand down bit was preplanned by Trump-to send a message to his troops.

I actually found myself agreeing with John Fucking Bolton until he refused to endorse the only person who can eject the current abomination he described from the White House. Being a right wing jerk ruled out the possibility.

 

[blackangst1]

I ran your post through google and immediately got this whack job right wing site https://speakingaboutnews.com/17-times-donald-trump-has-condemned-racism-and-white-supremacy-2/

and this one https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/0...s-condemned-racism-and-white-supremacy-784419

John Hawkins is evidently a giant douche canoe. And it is good to know where you go to have your oversized amygdala exercised.

So all the linked sources are false? LOL Each quote has a separate linked source. If thats what youre saying, well...youre dumber than I thought.

 

[dank69]

So all the linked sources are false? LOL Each quote has a separate linked source. If thats what youre saying, well...youre dumber than I thought.

Swing, and a miss.

 

[HomerJS]

So all the linked sources are false? LOL Each quote has a separate linked source. If thats what youre saying, well...youre dumber than I thought.

Once again who are the greatest terrorist threat? I bet like Trump you can't say it without equivocating.

 

[blackangst1]

Once again who are the greatest terrorist threat? I bet like Trump you can't say it without equivocating.

Ive agreed before its homegrown. Whats your point?

 

[zzyzxroad]

So all the linked sources are false? LOL Each quote has a separate linked source. If thats what youre saying, well...youre dumber than I thought.

It's clear you did not put that list together. Show your work. Which propaganda outlet did you seal that from?

The people you get your propaganda from went back 20 years to get 17 quotes. Between those 17 quotes trump has blown a constant dog whistle and fed you a both sides sandwich (similar to a nothing burger but with extra bologna).

 

[blackangst1]

It's clear you did not put that list together. Show your work. Which propaganda outlet did you seal that from?

The people you get your propaganda from went back 20 years to get 17 quotes. Between those 17 quotes trump has blown a constant dog whistle and fed you a both sides sandwich (similar to a nothing burger but with extra bologna).

There are several sites with this list, and several more with s list of 20. Regardless, the list provides sources for each quote, so why does it matter? Are you saying the quotes and the sources for hose quotes are fake?

 

[pauldun170]

So all the linked sources are false? LOL Each quote has a separate linked source. If thats what youre saying, well...youre dumber than I thought.

AHEM
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...demn-white-supremacists.2585620/post-40300149

For the average person, when faced with the question it's a simple response back.
For any person free from racism, the response to that would have been a simple straightforward one.

Trump's response is all you need to know.


1.
"I don't like it, any group of hate, whether its white supremacy, whether it's any other kind of supremacy, whether its antifa," the president said. "I am very concerned about it and I'll do something about it."
Avoids directly answerring the question and shift to "ALL" while specifically mentioning antifa.
Equivalent of discrediting BLM by redirecting to All lives matter

Trump said he's concerned about 'white supremacy' or 'any other kind of supremacy'

"I don't like it, any group of hate, whether its white supremacy, whether it's any other kind of supremacy," Trump said.

www.businessinsider.com

2. Prepared statement written by staff

3. We must come together as a nation. I condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. Peace to ALL Americans!
AKA Both sides and shifts narrative away from specifically white nationalism

4. He just came off the shitstorm from Charlottesville and he was primarily concerned with thank police. The Boston protest caught his attention because the primary organizers
had invited "libertarians, conservatives, traditionalists, classical liberals, Trump supporters or anyone else who enjoys their right to free speech," according to a group calling itself the Boston Free Speech Coalition, which sought to distance itself from the violence in Charlottesville on its Facebook page.
"We denounce the politics of supremacy and violence," it said. "We denounce the actions, activities, and tactics of the so-called Antifa movement. We denounce the normalization of political violence."
He gave zero fucks about the BLM counterprotestors.

5. Dumbass. See full article of what he was actually talking about

Trump: ‘We reject the bigotry’ of Clinton

He said Clinton does not treat black voters as “human beings worthy of a better future.”

thehill.com

I could keep going, but I don't have to.
Your copy paste nonsense is better wasted elsewhere

Guy Page: Is Donald Trump a racist? Evaluating what ’45’ has said and done

A former Vermont State House journalist — a sincerely good, decent, civil person of long and pleasant acquaintance — recently chastised me on my Facebook page for backing “racist” President Donald …

www.truenorthreports.com

 

[zzyzxroad]

There are several sites with this list, and several more with s list of 20. Regardless, the list provides sources for each quote, so why does it matter? Are you saying the quotes and the sources for hose quotes are fake?

I didn't indicate the quotes were false, only that you stole them from a site that peddles propaganda. You have a track record of falling for propaganda so i'm interested in where you get yours from?

 

[alien42]

Ive agreed before its homegrown. Whats your point?

It's not just homegrown, it's right wing white supremacists. I bet you can't say that.

 

[pauldun170]

I didn't indicate the quotes were false, only that you stole them from a site that peddles propaganda. You have a track record of falling for propaganda so i'm interested in where you get yours from?

It doesn't matter where he got them from since it appears to have been circulated by the typical "farms" already.
It's meant to be copy pasted and the presence of links is to give the reader the sense that it is legitimate with the hopes that no one will actually review the links and view full context.

It's probably some jack-off getting paid to do text searches in lexisnexus or maybe even just plain google. Grab an easy digestible nugget and add the link.
Toss in news comments section and reddit. Make X amount based on spread or reposts
Suckers in the lazy or the just plain idiots into reposting.

Shit like this is the equivalent of all the memes that float around Social media. I wonder how much they pay those people nowadays...

 

[zzyzxroad]

It doesn't matter where he got them from since it appears to have been circulated by the typical "farms" already.
It's meant to be copy pasted and the presence of links is to give the reader the sense that it is legitimate with the hopes that no one will actually review the links and view full context.

It's probably some jack-off getting paid to do text searches in lexisnexus or maybe even just plain google. Grab an easy digestible nugget and add the link.
Toss in news comments section and reddit. Make X amount based on spread or reposts
Suckers in the lazy or the just plain idiots into reposting.

Shit like this is the equivalent of all the memes that float around Social media. I wonder how much they pay those people nowadays...

No doubt and I believe the going rate is about 10 rubles per meme. 😀

 

[MtnMan]

Are we so sure they are a white supremecist group?
I wouldn't think a white supreme group would have black members, just like the KKK wouldn't. Bye bye narrative...

Never say never. I have seen this guy standing on a bridge over the interstate in a rebel uniform waving a confederate flag several times. He is also past president of the local NAACP chapter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._K._Edgerton

 

[blackangst1]

It doesn't matter where he got them from since it appears to have been circulated by the typical "farms" already.
It's meant to be copy pasted and the presence of links is to give the reader the sense that it is legitimate with the hopes that no one will actually review the links and view full context.

It's probably some jack-off getting paid to do text searches in lexisnexus or maybe even just plain google. Grab an easy digestible nugget and add the link.
Toss in news comments section and reddit. Make X amount based on spread or reposts
Suckers in the lazy or the just plain idiots into reposting.

Shit like this is the equivalent of all the memes that float around Social media. I wonder how much they pay those people nowadays...

Except the sources for all those quotes are legit. Bottom line is one poster said oh look one quote renouncing white supremacy groups, and my response provided 17. Thats a fact.

 

[pauldun170]

Except the sources for all those quotes are legit. Bottom line is one poster said oh look one quote renouncing white supremacy groups, and my response provided 17. Thats a fact.

The sources legit exist on the internet.
The quotes legit exist in that they were spoken from the mouth of Trump.
On actual review, they legit do not support your assertion at all.
They legit fail the test of whether Trump specifically renounces white supremacy groups.

 

[blackangst1]

The sources legit exist on the internet.
The quotes legit exist in that they were spoken from the mouth of Trump.
On actual review, they legit do not support your assertion at all.
They legit fail the test of whether Trump specifically renounces white supremacy groups.

Holy shit! OK man whatever you want to believe...I guess his latest condemnation doesnt qualify either:

“I've said it many times, let me be clear again. I condemn the KKK. I condemn all white supremacists. I condemn the Proud Boys.”

 

[zzyzxroad]

Holy shit! OK man whatever you want to believe...I guess his latest condemnation doesnt qualify either:

“I've said it many times, let me be clear again. I condemn the KKK. I condemn all white supremacists. I condemn the Proud Boys.”

And yet he has stephen miller as a top advisor.

 

[Jhhnn]

Except the sources for all those quotes are legit. Bottom line is one poster said oh look one quote renouncing white supremacy groups, and my response provided 17. Thats a fact.

So what? Presented with the opportunity to denounce white supremacy in a nationally televised debate, Trump dog whistled them instead. Not just the proud boys, but all of them. It's a threat of insurrection. As Bolton said, it's highly calculated.

 

[zinfamous]

Im not sure why he was even asked that question since he's publicly denounced them already in March: "“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.”

yeah, cause that totally tracks with a dude that took out a full page ad in the NYT demanding the execution of 5 innocent black men. ...especially when he had no political anything to gain, just public perception.

That's totally something that non-racists would do. Narcissism fails to explain that, as well.