Why didn't Trump condemn white supremacists?

[killster1]

Angry? No. Do I find your willful disregard of the facts disgusting? Yes.

yea we can all tell you are angry, cursing, foaming at the mouth. You only speak the facts right!

 

[brycejones]

yea we can all tell you are angry, cursing, foaming at the mouth. You only speak the facts right!

How banal. So far we have ignoring the facts to hold on to your opinion in this thread. That isn’t a good look for you.

 

[killster1]

How banal. So far we have ignoring the facts to hold on to your opinion in this thread. That isn’t a good look for you.

how about a answer to how a Cuban can be a white supremacist. No one had heard about "proud boys" before this, from wikipedia they have been around for 4 years. Trump has already condemned white radicals in the past.
Also how do you say my first hand witness to antifa vandalizing / attacking people is not a fact? or was that homerj simpson

 

[brycejones]

how about a answer to how a Cuban can be a white supremacist. No one had heard about "proud boys" before this, from wikipedia they have been around for 4 years. Trump has already condemned white radicals in the past.
Also how do you say my first hand witness to antifa vandalizing / attacking people is not a fact? or was that homerj simpson

In this thread are several posts that point out how Trumps’s condemnations were not exactly that. Also it’s extremely dishonest to focus only on the Proud Boys. The thread title says white supremacists it doesn’t say proud boys.

 

[zzyzxroad]

In this thread are several posts that point out how Trumps’s condemnations were not exactly that. Also it’s extremely dishonest to focus only on the Proud Boys. The thread title says white supremacists it doesn’t say proud boys.

Plus and this might come to a shock to some but trump effing lies a lot.

Who does everyone think comes in second place for most lies told by a sitting president and by what order of magnitude has trump exceeded them?

 

[killster1]

In this thread are several posts that point out how Trumps’s condemnations were not exactly that. Also it’s extremely dishonest to focus only on the Proud Boys. The thread title says white supremacists it doesn’t say proud boys.

so.. sure this is about him saying for proud boys to stand back and stand by. Along with biden saying antifa is just a idea and not a actual group.

moderator "are you willing to say to condemn white supremacist groups and militia groups"
trump "sure"
Moderator "are you willing to tell them to stand down"
Trump "what do you want me to call them"
Biden "proud boys"
Trump "proud boys stand down and stand by"
well there you have it i just re watched it and sure enough the mystery is solved and right there in the video!

 

[alien42]

killster = racist = ignore

 

[brycejones]

so.. sure this is about him saying for proud boys to stand back and stand by. Along with biden saying antifa is just a idea and not a actual group.

moderator "are you willing to say you are against white supremacy"
trump "sure"
Moderator "are you willing to tell them to stand down"
Trump "stand down and stand by"
well there you have it i just re watched it and sure enough the mystery is solved and right there in the video!

Your seem to have left a bit out of that exchange would you care to include the rest of it or are you sticking with your selective quoting of it?

 

[killster1]

Your seem to have left a bit out of that exchange would you care to include the rest of it or are you sticking with your selective quoting of it?

you can go ahead and correct me with some "facts" for what he has said and hasnt in that clip. i watched it i quoted it, so now its your turn.

 

[nickqt]

what murders are you talking about? the angry mob that attempted to take away someones gun? Who said that guy was a white supremacist? Seems everyone is quick to say someone is a white supremacist even a cuban is a white supremacist according to you people.

The murder of 2 police officers by white supremacists.

By the white supremacists I told you about that you "googled".

Either you're really fucking bad at reading.

Or your AI is dogshit and needs to be worked on to retain content and context between posts.

Pick one.

 

[brycejones]

you can go ahead and correct me with some "facts" for what he has said and hasnt in that clip. i watched it i quoted it, so now its your turn.

The simple fact is you selectively quoted the exchange. As anyone who watches the video you linked can see. If you can’t even be honest about that then I am not sure there is any point in continuing to discuss anything with you.

 

[Meghan54]

i can have my opinion and you can have yours right? You think a rational stable person would shoot others? is that the normal thing to do?

What you're saying is that you are another proud Know-Nothing and revel in it. Nothing wrong with being completely uninformed....more power to you. But why do you then think your opinions count for shit since you've admitted you revel in not knowing a damned thing that you're railing about?

 

[pauldun170]

so.. sure this is about him saying for proud boys to stand back and stand by. Along with biden saying antifa is just a idea and not a actual group.

moderator "are you willing to say to condemn white supremacist groups and militia groups"
trump "sure"
Moderator "are you willing to tell them to stand down"
Trump "what do you want me to call them"
Biden "proud boys"
Trump "proud boys stand down and stand by"
well there you have it i just re watched it and sure enough the mystery is solved and right there in the video!

As the saying goes

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www.youtube.com

 

[dank69]

Thats not something a true racist would do though.

Jesus, an actual "no true Scotsman" fallacy. I'll defer to your expertise on how real racists should behave.

 

[dank69]

how about a answer to how a Cuban can be a white supremacist. No one had heard about "proud boys" before this, from wikipedia they have been around for 4 years. Trump has already condemned white radicals in the past.
Also how do you say my first hand witness to antifa vandalizing / attacking people is not a fact? or was that homerj simpson

A simple search of these forums for "proud boys" reveals we've been discussing them since 2019:

Search results for query: "proud boys"

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[fskimospy]

Jesus, an actual "no true Scotsman" fallacy. I'll defer to your expertise on how real racists should behave.

I love how they constantly invent ways how the horrible and mutually contradictory things Trump says aren't lies or aren’t bad but for the one thing he’s been super consistent about his whole life - his extreme racism - they just flat out deny it.

 

[killster1]

The murder of 2 police officers by white supremacists.

By the white supremacists I told you about that you "googled".

Either you're really fucking bad at reading.

Or your AI is dogshit and needs to be worked on to retain content and context between posts.

Pick one.

I pick that you are so angry with someone who doesn't think the same as you. Sounds biased

The simple fact is you selectively quoted the exchange. As anyone who watches the video you linked can see. If you can’t even be honest about that then I am not sure there is any point in continuing to discuss anything with you.

So you can't point out what I missed and school me? Makes it sound like ur full of it. Can't make a simple quote to put me to shame? I heard and posted. You only said I was wrong you didn't quote, pretty easy to be angry and say someone's wrong and not back it up.

A simple search of these forums for "proud boys" reveals we've been discussing them since 2019:

Search results for query: "proud boys"

forums.anandtech.com

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Ok anandtech members have made a proud Boys thread in the past, should I be amazed that I haven't read all the threads? I'm more of a hardware kinda guy.

 

[SMOGZINN]

how about a answer to how a Cuban can be a white supremacist.

Easy, he considers himself to be white, because the concept of race is vague to include him in several categories. That is the one he choses for himself, and as is common when someone is insecure about a core identity belief, he overcompensates by hating those he sees as outgroup.

 

[killster1]

Easy, he considers himself to be white, because the concept of race is vague to include him in several categories. That is the one he choses for himself, and as is common when someone is insecure about a core identity belief, he overcompensates by hating those he sees as outgroup.

Guess you missed his quotes condemning white supremacists, he's a white supremacist that hates white supremacists is going to be your next interpretation right? He doesn't consider himself white or do you have him stating that somewhere? (Perhaps you are a mind reader)

 

[SMOGZINN]

Guess you missed his quotes condemning white supremacists, he's a white supremacist that hates white supremacists is going to be your next interpretation right? He doesn't consider himself white or do you have him stating that somewhere? (Perhaps you are a mind reader)

I simply answered your question, this post is just an attempt at moving the goalposts. You asked: how a Cuban can be a white supremacist. I answered it.

Per the 2012 census 64.1% of Cuban nationals put down 'white' as their race.

 

[soundforbjt]

Guess you missed his quotes condemning white supremacists, he's a white supremacist that hates white supremacists is going to be your next interpretation right? He doesn't consider himself white or do you have him stating that somewhere? (Perhaps you are a mind reader)

Is this another no true racist would do " " post?

 

[Trell]

Every time?

 

[killster1]

I simply answered your question, this post is just an attempt at moving the goalposts. You asked: how a Cuban can be a white supremacist. I answered it.

Per the 2012 census 64.1% of Cuban nationals put down 'white' as their race.

How about replying the question about trumps quotes stating he refutes white supremacists (the whole point of this thread)
I also get my facts from the census lololol thats proof then there u have it. Of course I haven't read the options of the census and have no idea what a person is thinking when they mark down different things. I like to mark down Alaskan Eskimo, wonder what that says about me.

 

[HomerJS]

Guess you missed his quotes condemning white supremacists, he's a white supremacist that hates white supremacists is going to be your next interpretation right? He doesn't consider himself white or do you have him stating that somewhere? (Perhaps you are a mind reader)

If your wife/gf said she isn't cheating on you and then the next day you see her grabbing the asses of other guys, would you believe her? If she required a written statement to proclaim she isn't cheating would you believe her?

 

[SMOGZINN]

How about replying the question about trumps quotes stating he refutes white supremacists (the whole point of this thread)
I also get my facts from the census lololol thats proof then there u have it. Of course I haven't read the options of the census and have no idea what a person is thinking when they mark down different things. I like to mark down Alaskan Eskimo, wonder what that says about me.

When a person's actions and words don't match up, I pay attention to their actions. Trump might occasionally give some lip service to being against racism, but then he turns around and does and says racist things. I also notice that his racist things come about mostly when he is going off on a tangent, while his anti-racist statements are always read off of a teleprompter, making me wonder if it is Trump or his speech writer that is not racist.

So, your argument then is that 64.1% of Cuban's lied on the census. And your evidence of this is that you do?
Who are you trying to convince me or yourself? Because your arguments are too transparently weak to be convincing to anyone that does not already believe this.