why did the guy in the movie Passion of the Christ hung himself after he saw a dead cow?

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: mzkhadir

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Why are there so many versions of the bible ? Why not just stick with one ?

It's interpretation of the original text at different periods of time. The King James version was normalcy back when it was originally translated because everybody talked like that. New King James was "re-translated" because the King James version was getting old and the language of the time had evolved so much. Now we've got different versions just saying the same message in more up-to-date language for today's society (NIV, Living Bible, etc).

That was a kinda weird explanation. I hope you get it.

Why reinterpret, everyone has a different interpretation for everything. If its the same person reinterpreting, it would be different.

It's not one person; it's a collection of scholars. Can you read aramaic? Can you read Greek or Hebrew? Well, then, a translation is probably in order.

You're supposed to let the Holy Spirit speak to you as you read. You can find several "interpretations" from one single verse, finding a different one each time you read it. A certain verse might mean one thing to one person and someone else might learn something totally different from it. I'm not talking about conflicting or incorrect interpretations, although that does happen. As an example, the four gospel writers saw the same situation happen and each of them wrote about it differently. They weren't saying "this is how it happened and the other three are wrong" they're giving their divinely-inspired point of view.

Meh. I think I'm minsing words. I need more coffee.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: puffpio

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Why are there so many versions of the bible ? Why not just stick with one ?

It's interpretation of the original text at different periods of time. The King James version was normalcy back when it was originally translated because everybody talked like that. New King James was "re-translated" because the King James version was getting old and the language of the time had evolved so much. Now we've got different versions just saying the same message in more up-to-date language for today's society (NIV, Living Bible, etc).

That was a kinda weird explanation. I hope you get it.

Are there any more updated translations? Reason being lots of poeple only read the NIV version..but that doesn't seem like a good translation...
I mean..the books seem to have similar writing style even though they were written by different people..and some of those peopel were not educated..could they write so eloquently? I would wanna see books translated to get their manner of writing across as well as their message...

I wonder if they used slang

Okay think of it this way. Kanye West can spout his typical ignorant ebonics bullshit and a newspaper reporter can reword what he said so that the generally educated population would understand what Kanye is trying to convey

 

[Cooler]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Winchester

Originally posted by: Cooler
That is correct we don?t. We expect the dead to rise when our messiah comes .

Uh! Some dead did rise. So what are you waiting for?

I've always wondered why Jews completely discredit the new testament.

By dead I mean all dead.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Cooler

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Winchester

Originally posted by: Cooler
That is correct we don?t. We expect the dead to rise when our messiah comes .

Uh! Some dead did rise. So what are you waiting for?

I've always wondered why Jews completely discredit the new testament.

By dead I mean all dead.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Cooler

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Winchester

Originally posted by: Cooler
That is correct we don?t. We expect the dead to rise when our messiah comes .

Uh! Some dead did rise. So what are you waiting for?

I've always wondered why Jews completely discredit the new testament.

By dead I mean all dead.

49999, make it count.

 

[Brazen]

Originally posted by: puffpio

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: mzkhadir
Why are there so many versions of the bible ? Why not just stick with one ?

It's interpretation of the original text at different periods of time. The King James version was normalcy back when it was originally translated because everybody talked like that. New King James was "re-translated" because the King James version was getting old and the language of the time had evolved so much. Now we've got different versions just saying the same message in more up-to-date language for today's society (NIV, Living Bible, etc).

That was a kinda weird explanation. I hope you get it.

Are there any more updated translations? Reason being lots of poeple only read the NIV version..but that doesn't seem like a good translation...
I mean..the books seem to have similar writing style even though they were written by different people..and some of those peopel were not educated..could they write so eloquently? I would wanna see books translated to get their manner of writing across as well as their message...

I wonder if they used slang

Try the NRSV translation - I personally like the New Oxford Annotated Bible. The NRSV translators used all the oldest known manuscripts (ie. the Dead Sea Scrolls) and kept the same wording used in the original Greek and Hebrew. What I mean is they only made allowances for grammatical differences; they did not paraphrase or make any speculations to make it easier to read and is the closest to a word-for-word translation.

 

[Auryg]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: Mucho
So if Jesus is the Son of God and Christians worship him and god as well then Christianity is not a monotheist religion but a polytheist religion since the worship more than one god?

different christians have different thoughts on this

it is controversial

Another semi-good point is the fact that Satan is a figure. Not really a God, and not really worshiped either, but it makes Christianity semi-dualist.

'Course, Satan isn't really talked about much in the old (or even the new) testament.

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: Auryg

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: Mucho
So if Jesus is the Son of God and Christians worship him and god as well then Christianity is not a monotheist religion but a polytheist religion since the worship more than one god?

different christians have different thoughts on this

it is controversial

Another semi-good point is the fact that Satan is a figure. Not really a God, and not really worshiped either, but it makes Christianity semi-dualist.

'Course, Satan isn't really talked about much in the old (or even the new) testament.

Satan is a created being, an angel specifically. He led a rebellion against God and was kicked out of Heaven. People do worship him, but some people worship statues and rocks and stuff too. I don't know why.

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: Mucho
So if Jesus is the Son of God and Christians worship him and god as well then Christianity is not a monotheist religion but a polytheist religion since the worship more than one god?

no its the holy trinity. Jesus, the holy ghost, and God are all one being. there fore one "GOD"

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
I've never understood how Jesus could be the son of God yet also be considered God.

It would be like if I knocked up some girl and then I crawled out of her womb and became my own son

Actually it would be more like you decide for the girl to birth a chld and so she does, without any impregnation. Also unless your omnipotent and omniscient i dont think you can understand exactly how God is

 

[Gunslinger08]

The most confusing thing to me about the life of Jesus is this:

"My God, my God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?"

Being God, he knew all along that he was born to die. However, he still said this. It doesn't make sense to me.

 

[shilala]

Originally posted by: jdini76
It's hanged, not hung.

"He hanged himself."
"Why did he hang himself?"

"You hung a picture."
"Why did you hang the picture?"

Where does "shilala's hung like a beefalo" fit in?

 

[bobbybe01]

Originally posted by: NuclearNed

Originally posted by: Mucho

Originally posted by: Winchester

Originally posted by: Mucho
So if Jesus is the Son of God and Christians worship him and god as well then Christianity is not a monotheist religion but a polytheist religion since the worship more than one god?

No. There is a Trinity: The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit, but they are all in the same (One).

Hmmm...so when Christ prays to his father in heaven he is praying to himself?

I'm confident that most theologians would agree that a large portion of Christ's life was to serve as an example of how God wants people to live. So I don't think that it is all that strange that he might "pray to himself" in order to show those around him how and when to pray.

Jesus also prayed to the Father that his apostles would be one even as he and the Father were one. Is this symbolic or "real" like the trinity? Let's also take the baptism of Jesus into account...

I believe they were one in purpose...just not in essence or whatever.

 

[Adica]

Topic Title: why did the guy in the movie Passion of the Christ hung himself after he saw a dead cow?

Originally posted by: Solodays
so jesus is a vegetarian?

LOL "the guy"

 

[JulesMaximus]

Maybe he was Indian? :laugh:

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
The most confusing thing to me about the life of Jesus is this:

"My God, my God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?"

Being God, he knew all along that he was born to die. However, he still said this. It doesn't make sense to me.

The generally accepted teaching is that at that point Gods presence left Jesus and He felt alone (not one with God) for the first time.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: joshsquall
The most confusing thing to me about the life of Jesus is this:

"My God, my God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?"

Being God, he knew all along that he was born to die. However, he still said this. It doesn't make sense to me.

The generally accepted teaching is that at that point Gods presence left Jesus and He felt alone (not one with God) for the first time.

That sounds like a cop out. Actually though, one of the hosts of the public access atheist show pointed out that unlike the guy in Chronicles of Narnia, Jesus died without knowing for sure that he would be resurrected. That is the only thing that would make his sacrifice real and relevant.

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: TBone48

Originally posted by: joshsquall
The most confusing thing to me about the life of Jesus is this:

"My God, my God, Why Hast Thou Forsaken Me?"

Being God, he knew all along that he was born to die. However, he still said this. It doesn't make sense to me.

The generally accepted teaching is that at that point Gods presence left Jesus and He felt alone (not one with God) for the first time.

That sounds like a cop out. Actually though, one of the hosts of the public access atheist show pointed out that unlike the guy in Chronicles of Narnia, Jesus died without knowing for sure that he would be resurrected. That is the only thing that would make his sacrifice real and relevant.

I don't understand the cop-out reference. In order to truly sacrifice Himself for us, He had to experience death as a human would. He had to die apart from the prescence of God. Imagine the despair He must have felt when God left Him. All Jesus had known up to that point in His existence was oneness with God. Humans can only hope to feel a fraction of that closeness while we're on this Earth, it must have been a horrible feeling.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: hjo3

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: Solodays
is jesus a vegetarian?

No hes just a jew
So he doesnt eat pork and that stuff

He eats cows though

But the vision Jacob had of the unclean animals being lifted in the white sheet came before Christ's time in the New Testament, right? So weren't cloven-hoofed animals considered "okay" by then?

It depends...while Jesus wouldn';t have had a problem with the animals...Judas might've, as this was long before the vision to...Peter. It wasn't to Jacob, that'd have been before the Nation of Israel was formed, or the laws, it just woulnd't fit right.

The vision was to Peter...

Romans 10:10-16
10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

So this would put it after Judas's betrayal, and even it HAD been before...it was only imagery...