I'm pretty sure if we all witnessed first-hand the miracles that Jesus performed, we'd all be hardcore believers. So until science can transport us back through time to see Jesus' antics back in the day, then we're only left with faith.
I'm pretty sure if we all witnessed first-hand the miracles that Jesus performed, we'd all be hardcore believers. So until science can transport us back through time to see Jesus' antics back in the day, then we're only left with faith.
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Originally posted by: rmrf
I have no idea what CCD is. Yes, Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God, and died on the cross to forgive them of their sins. It is well known that (most) Jews do not believe that Jesus was the son of God, therefore, it doesn't matter why he died to them, because they do not see Him as their messiah.
I am stretching myself on these comments, so if someone else knows more about the subject, here's your chance to butt in
CCD is a Charged Coupled Device - used in digital cameras et. al.
I think he means some sort of Catechism class.
NuclearNed
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My memory of the scene in the movie is a little fuzzy, but it seems like I remember that the dead cow had a rope tied to it. At this point in time, Judas was already suicidal, and when he saw the rope on the cow the wheels in his little noggin started a turnin'.
So if Jesus is the Son of God and Christians worship him and god as well then Christianity is not a monotheist religion but a polytheist religion since the worship more than one god?
Not really, no. The Bible never actually says that there's a trinity but there are several verses that support God being three. The name of God, Elohim, is plural. It's still one God but three parts. Polytheistic religions worship many individual gods, not one many-part god.
Yes, I know, it's confusing
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Originally posted by: Nik
Not really, no. The Bible never actually says that there's a trinity but there are several verses that support God being three. The name of God, Elohim, is plural. It's still one God but three parts. Polytheistic religions worship many individual gods, not one many-part god.
Yes, I know, it's confusing
Another way of looking at it is that "Father", "Son" and "Holy Spirit" are three different roles that God plays. Kind of similar to me being a husband, programmer, and cyclist, yet I'm only one being.
No. There is a Trinity: The Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit, but they are all in the same (One).
I don't believe they are waiting for someone to "die on the cross" for them. If you read the Old Testament, the Jewish leaders were basically great military leaders (sent by God). So what the are expecting when God sends his son to set them free, is someone who will be a great Jewish leader and "physically" destroy their earthly enemies.
They do not believe Jesus was the son of God because Jesus did not free them from anything, they don't realize that by dying on the cross, he freed all who believe from sin. He freed all who believe from eternal damnation - a much greater gift, and a much great accomplishment, than simply being a great earthly conqueror in the name of the Jews.
It's hanged, not hung.
"He hanged himself."
"Why did he hang himself?"
"You hung a picture."
"Why did you hang the picture?"
"He hanged himself."
"Why did he hang himself?"
"You hung a picture."
"Why did you hang the picture?"
NuclearNed
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Originally posted by: Mucho
Hmmm...so when Christ prays to his father in heaven he is praying to himself?
I'm confident that most theologians would agree that a large portion of Christ's life was to serve as an example of how God wants people to live. So I don't think that it is all that strange that he might "pray to himself" in order to show those around him how and when to pray.
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: Nik
Not really, no. The Bible never actually says that there's a trinity but there are several verses that support God being three. The name of God, Elohim, is plural. It's still one God but three parts. Polytheistic religions worship many individual gods, not one many-part god.
Yes, I know, it's confusing
Another way of looking at it is that "Father", "Son" and "Holy Spirit" are three different roles that God plays. Kind of similar to me being a husband, programmer, and cyclist, yet I'm only one being.
Thanks, thats a good way of putting it.
I've never understood how Jesus could be the son of God yet also be considered God.
It would be like if I knocked up some girl and then I crawled out of her womb and became my own son
It would be like if I knocked up some girl and then I crawled out of her womb and became my own son
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It's interpretation of the original text at different periods of time. The King James version was normalcy back when it was originally translated because everybody talked like that. New King James was "re-translated" because the King James version was getting old and the language of the time had evolved so much. Now we've got different versions just saying the same message in more up-to-date language for today's society (NIV, Living Bible, etc).
That was a kinda weird explanation.
I hope you get it.Originally posted by: Nik
It's interpretation of the original text at different periods of time. The King James version was normalcy back when it was originally translated because everybody talked like that. New King James was "re-translated" because the King James version was getting old and the language of the time had evolved so much. Now we've got different versions just saying the same message in more up-to-date language for today's society (NIV, Living Bible, etc).
That was a kinda weird explanation.
Why reinterpret, everyone has a different interpretation for everything. If its the same person reinterpreting, it would be different.
Originally posted by: Nik
It's interpretation of the original text at different periods of time. The King James version was normalcy back when it was originally translated because everybody talked like that. New King James was "re-translated" because the King James version was getting old and the language of the time had evolved so much. Now we've got different versions just saying the same message in more up-to-date language for today's society (NIV, Living Bible, etc).
That was a kinda weird explanation.
Are there any more updated translations? Reason being lots of poeple only read the NIV version..but that doesn't seem like a good translation...
I mean..the books seem to have similar writing style even though they were written by different people..and some of those peopel were not educated..could they write so eloquently? I would wanna see books translated to get their manner of writing across as well as their message...
I wonder if they used slang
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