Why did I major in history in college?

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saahmed

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Yeah, that was pretty stupid of you. Sorry, but yeah, you're doomed to being a high school teacher.
 

Siddhartha

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There was this guy who lived down the hall in the dorms from me during my first year at school. He was a legend in the Chemistry dept because he had a 4.0 gpa. People would drop a class if they found out he was in it because he always skewed the grading curve.

One day while walking by this room I heard him shout "damn" or was it darn. I was concerned that something was wrong. He was a devout Christian and never cursed. While I was in his room, I saw a graded test taped above his desk and asked him about it. He said that once he knew that he had an A in this class so he decided not to study for a test. He got a B+ on the exam. Even though he still was getting an A in the class the B+ shocked him and he taped the exam above his desk as a reminder.

He got into Duke Medical School which was his first choice. Of course he was accepted by all the schools he applied to.

I saw this guy nine months after he graduated college walking down the street. I asked how medical school was going. He said that he dropped out because he realized he was going to med school to please other people. He was then pursuing the career he always wanted to do. He was in school to get a MS in marching band instruction.

Cliffs:

1. I knew this pre-med who graduated with a 4.0 gpa in Chemistry because he was really smart and worked hard.
2. He got into the med school of his choice with a full scholarship.
3. He dropped out after a year because it was not what he really wanted to do.
4. Moral is: life is too short, do what really interests you.
 

LS20

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in california, in my public school district, there is a progressive step-raise per year that one stays a teacher... if you put in your time, your annual salary can get pretty impressive.

but then again, factor in cost of living, and the equivalent salary of places like sf bay/ca and nyc's is, without hyperbole, HALF in normal places like houston or atlanta
 

rubix

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Originally posted by: Jehovah

- All of our emotions/actions/feelings are, ultimately, just a result of complex chemical reactions controlled by a big bundle of nerves.
- If that is the case, we are wholly dependent on the brain to make our actions; hence no free will.
- And of course, if there is no free will, such a thing as a 'soul' does not exist, and we are living in a world where all our actions/reactions are completely deterministic.

i don't follow why because our brain is nerves reacting to chemicals and synapses that therefore we do not have "free will". the brain is ours, not a seperate entity. it facilitates our functioning and then we can use that functioning to do things, including control our brain (or just kill ourself, take that brain).

and although the idea of believing one actually has a physical entity known as a soul is ridiculous (ie: how does it retain let alone collect more information to store in it's soul-brain etc) i fail to see what free will and souls have to do with each other. couldn't you have a soul and no free will?

and even if you had no free will why would that therefore mean everything is deterministic. i'd love to have a teacher who believed in pre-determination because i'd just blame all my grades on my destiny.
 
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Originally posted by: rubix
Originally posted by: Jehovah

- All of our emotions/actions/feelings are, ultimately, just a result of complex chemical reactions controlled by a big bundle of nerves.
- If that is the case, we are wholly dependent on the brain to make our actions; hence no free will.
- And of course, if there is no free will, such a thing as a 'soul' does not exist, and we are living in a world where all our actions/reactions are completely deterministic.

i don't follow why because our brain is nerves reacting to chemicals and synapses that therefore we do not have "free will". the brain is ours, not a seperate entity. it facilitates our functioning and then we can use that functioning to do things, including control our brain (or just kill ourself, take that brain).

and although the idea of believing one actually has a physical entity known as a soul is ridiculous (ie: how does it retain let alone collect more information to store in it's soul-brain etc) i fail to see what free will and souls have to do with each other. couldn't you have a soul and no free will?

and even if you had no free will why would that therefore mean everything is deterministic. i'd love to have a teacher who believed in pre-determination because i'd just blame all my grades on my destiny.

Definitionfreedom of self determination and action independent of external causes.

Now, having said that, how can you say that you posess true free will if we can change your thoughts/emotions/mental capacities via an external input, like, say drugs that change your chemcal balance of the brain?
What's the point of a soul if you don't have free will? And, if everything is encased in the brain, where would the soul come in?
You're confusing determinism with fatalism. Anyhow, for the sake of argument, say that you were indeed socially/fatalistically/etc. engineered to fail class. Then, we could say that your teacher is also socially/fatalistically/etc. engineered to fail your ignant ass. :p

Happy?
 
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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Going to college to better yourself is foolish. The vast majority of the world doesn't have the opportunity to get a college education... It's a huge privilege and a degree for the sake of a degree is a bourgeois folly... If the knowledge is all that matters, spend four years reading books instead of spending many thousands of dollars for a degree.

First, stop confusing yourself; if people shouldn't go to university to better themselves OR to get a degree, then what's the point of goig altogether? Please, explain. :roll:

Second, so you can learn everything off of books? That must be nice - for peons like me, I had to get instruction to really understand what Kant was talking about in his Critque of Pure Reason. That must be nice that you can get things like that just by reading it.
 

vegetation

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Originally posted by: stormbv
I graduated from college almost 4 years ago. I'm working at Walmart right now. I'm doomed! :(

Don't give up. You need a more advanced degree, however. I would suggest you start looking into it now, it's definitely NOT too late.
 

necine

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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Hah; I'm a Philosophy major!

Beat that!

I was a philosophy major... realized that it limited my future. I then became a math major, philosophy minor. It's great even though philosophy is something I love to do. I can pick up any philosophy book and learn it for free.
 

tec699

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Originally posted by: enyce2k9
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: enyce2k9
teachers these days get $40+/hour,
what im happily making in a week u can make in about two days.

you mean like the exact opposite, right? teachers are notoriously underpayed. base salary is like $31k

no dude, about 2 years ago in h.s. i asked my math teacher what he gets paid an hour he said $37, by now im guessing he shoulda have couple of raises...

and i doubt he was lying, he was an honest teacher... besides that was in NY, ive seen those teachers with nice mustangs and bm's... either way they get a good pay.

Teachers are underpaid PERIOD! If teachers are making all of this money then why aren't there more male teachers?

It's because you can make 2-3X more money working in another field.

 

waggy

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its possible the teacher was makeing $40 an hour. But they only work 9 months of the year. But then they also have to continue training, do not get paid for the extra work they do etc.

not many get paid that much anyway. My wife worked in the school district for 3 years. She loved t he job and didnt mind the long hours. But the pay ($26k/year) and putting up with the parents/teachers union/board of education tired her out. She knew she would have to continue updating her education at her cost, and she is fine with working a 2nd job in the summer while takeing a few class's. heck she spent on avarage $100 buying supplies for the class.

Teaching is a great job. just wish it paid enough for everything you have to do.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: enyce2k9
teachers these days get $40+/hour,
what im happily making in a week u can make in about two days.

They do? Why the hell did I become an engineer then? :confused:

Average salary hits almost $44,000 = $21.15 per hour on average (assuming 2080 hour year - Teachers put in more time than most think). Starts around $30k

Bumpped to debunk the notion that teachers get paid, on average, $40+ per hour.

According to that article, even teachers from NY average just over $24 per hour (again, based on full year of work = 2080 hours). Sure, there are going to be tenured teachers that make $37 an hour, but to suggest that you're going to be making that out of the gate (or even in a short time frame of a few years) is incorrect.
 
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be a cool history teacher.

the two history teachers in my old school were the funniest people ive ever had the joy of meeting
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
be a cool history teacher.

the two history teachers in my old school were the funniest people ive ever had the joy of meeting

Yeah, all of my history teachers have been cool.
 
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Originally posted by: thehstrybean
I'm gonna be a history major! I'm doomed too, I suppose...

Well, if you network well, that shouldn't be a problem - cliche as it is, I've learned that it's really not so much what you kow, but who you know that really opens doors.
 

thehstrybean

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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
I'm gonna be a history major! I'm doomed too, I suppose...

Well, if you network well, that shouldn't be a problem - cliche as it is, I've learned that it's really not so much what you kow, but who you know that really opens doors.

Luckily, I have computers as a backup. But I really wanna be an archaeologist, but I gotta get me a PHd and such, so it's gonna be a pain...
 

NTB

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Thanks, now *I* don't feel so bad :p Got my BS in CS a year ago, and haven't been able to do anything with it yet :( I'm working in a warehouse for $10/hr at the moment.

Nate
 
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Going into the Army as an Officer. Wasn't a spur-of-the-moment decision, though - it took me years to decide.

But it's completely unrelated to my field of study. :)
 

stormbv

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Originally posted by: NTB
Thanks, now *I* don't feel so bad :p Got my BS in CS a year ago, and haven't been able to do anything with it yet :( I'm working in a warehouse for $10/hr at the moment.

Nate

heh, I wish I was making $10 an hour. I really need a new job.
 

MillionaireNextDoor

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read up on the signaling part of the human capital theory for one position on why we go to school. hint: it's not the degree.

you'll feel better after you read it.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: stormbv
I graduated from college almost 4 years ago. I'm working at Walmart right now. I'm doomed! :(

doing what? cashier/cart retriever?

go up the mgmt chain. i keep hearing walamrt commercials about how well they promotes from within.

or jump to sams club.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: stormbv
Wow, thanks for the responses! They have given me an idea: I could substitute teach instead of working at Walmart. The pay would surely be better. The only thing about teaching is that I don't know if I could handle the kids. I'm worried that they'd run all over me.

lay down the law the first day.