Why did Europeans open their arms to Muslims so much?

[Anarchist420]

i know i always sound like a broken record, but i believe mtDNA haplogroups may be why. Most americans identified as white are mtDNA hg UK (neanderthal men) while most modern Native EUropeans are mtDNA hg H (ape-men) like myself (i am pretty sure i am mtDNA hg H) and the Arabs.

 

[Braznor]

Europeans are less racist than the US?

LMAO!

:awe:

Despite all the leftoles lying to the contrary, the modern US is a very tolerant culture.

 

[tential]

What about your country using forged pretense to invade a country, Iraq, and kill ten of thousand innocents people as a vengence for 11 september, notice that the iraqi people had nothing to do with thoses events, what about a fanatised country that approved thoses killing with a 90% rate..?.

Heck, 90% of US people agreed to go killing people from a nation that wasnt responsible for any murder in the US soil, i guess it takes a good dose of fanatism and hate to support such despicable wars.

Or this doesnt count since this was an official army that was sent doing the massacres..?.

You do realize right that there were "supposed" weapons of mass destruction....

The approval rate was based on that pretense, the American people did not have a 90% approval rate of running around a country killing people for fun.

 

[Blue_Max]

Europeans are less racist than the US?

LMAO!

:awe:

Despite all the leftoles lying to the contrary, the modern US is a very tolerant culture.

...as evidenced by users here (like V.G.) who think that we'll "get along fine" with creeping sharia in North America if we just blow them kisses.

...except that didn't work out so well for the non-muslims in other countries where they eventually found themselves overpowered and under constant threat.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Sad you have a Jewish flag and call yourself JEDIYoda.

I wonder if a *true* Jew or a *true* JEDIYoda would say something such as this.

But carry on displaying the Israeli flag. Whatever suits your purpose.

Just making a point....


Why shouldn`t we be proud of our academic accomplishments?
In fact I would bet you that if more Muslims would work towards a Nobel Prize or the Nobel peace prize the world would be vastly different@!

 

[alcoholbob]

Europeans are less racist than the US?

LMAO!

:awe:

Despite all the leftoles lying to the contrary, the modern US is a very tolerant culture.

Probably really only true in the 19th and 20th centuries, back when King Kamehameha of Hawaii used to say in America you get thrown off trains and waiters spit in your food if you have dark skin and people acost you in the streets, but in Europe you can sit next to Queens and aristocracy if you have the money and you are well-cultured.

Asside from the UK, most of Europe is starting to lean more right-wing than the US now IMO, mostly due to clash of cultures between Islam and the West, the no-go zones, pro-Sharia Law marches, etc. Also cultural identity is stronger since Europe is the homeland of the European people, whereas in America there's always the constant cloud of shame of slavery and driving Indians off their land, which will be harped on by pro-immigration liberals until the population of the U.S. is completely replaced. In Europe there's a lot stronger of a resistance to this since people don't want to be completely replaced in their own homelands, particularly by hostile forces.

 

[Victorian Gray]

...as evidenced by users here (like V.G.) who think that we'll "get along fine" with creeping sharia in North America if we just blow them kisses.

...except that didn't work out so well for the non-muslims in other countries where they eventually found themselves overpowered and under constant threat.

Please stop lying.

 

[werepossum]

Thanks Fern, the scary question remains though - how many others are still there? those freaks are scaring the Muslims who live there, as much as they do to the Europeans.

What, haven't you been following the apologists? There were only those four. All's well now.

i know i always sound like a broken record, but i believe mtDNA haplogroups may be why. Most americans identified as white are mtDNA hg UK (neanderthal men) while most modern Native EUropeans are mtDNA hg H (ape-men) like myself (i am pretty sure i am mtDNA hg H) and the Arabs.

That's true. I remembering in school studying Europe's great seventeenth century haplogroup mtDNA hg UK exodus and, um . . .

No, wait. I don't remember that at all.

Dude, you seriously need to get some better web sites.

 

[Black Octagon]

Asside from the UK, most of Europe is starting to lean more right-wing than the US now IMO, mostly due to clash of cultures between Islam and the West, the no-go zones, pro-Sharia Law marches, etc..

I disagree. I see the rise of the European right-wing as due to various other factors, like:
- Anti-EU backlash after the austerity measures that have had to be implemented, and national politicians' eagerness to redirect pubic outrage towards "those interfering bureaucrats in Brussels"
- The general rise in xenophobia (not just against Muslims but also Asian refugees, the Roma, etc.) that has resulted from continual rises in immigration/population and, in turn, put more pressure on the job market
- The perceived failure of the Euro as a currency, and the sense that the EU has overstepped itself in terms of creating European legislation that takes precedence over national laws, and addresses areas of life that the EU previously left alone

If I didn't think him overly-obsessed by Putin, I'd recommend this Kaplan article as being oddly-accurate for an American analyst: http://www.forbes.com/sites/stratfor/2014/06/04/europes-deep-right-wing-logic/

Source: I live in Brussels where these issues are regularly discussed in newspapers, election debates, radio stations and cafes.

 

[Blue_Max]

Please stop lying.

You say I'm lying. So what's your response, then? What is your actual stance on islam in your home country and how non-muslims can have a long-term peaceful relationship with muslims.

Instead of just calling everyone names for their opinions, how about stating some of your own for a change... or do you not want the same scrutiny coming back at you?

 

[Victorian Gray]

You say I'm lying. So what's your response, then? What is your actual stance on islam in your home country and how non-muslims can have a long-term peaceful relationship with muslims.

Instead of just calling everyone names for their opinions, how about stating some of your own for a change... or do you not want the same scrutiny coming back at you?

You are lying.

Show me one post where I've said anything remotely similar to this: "as evidenced by users here (like V.G.) who think that we'll "get along fine" with creeping sharia in North America if we just blow them kisses."

And, my opinions?

Here's one, You and a few others here are religious bigots who don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. You're simply spreading the 'party line' pushed by assholes like Pam Geller et al because it suits their political/social agenda and there are plenty of ignorant, fearful people like you who just lap it up as if it was ambrosia because it allows you to direct your fears at something concrete but at a safe enough distance where you don't have to actually do anything but shake your fist and nod your head in agreement.

Is that enough of an opinion for you?

 

[Blue_Max]

Is that enough of an opinion for you?

Nope. Just your usual bullshit condemning everyone else while never offering anything that comes from YOU.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Nope. Just your usual bullshit condemning everyone else while never offering anything that comes from YOU.

And:

"Show me one post where I've said anything remotely similar to this: "as evidenced by users here (like V.G.) who think that we'll "get along fine" with creeping sharia in North America if we just blow them kisses."

 

[Blue_Max]

And:

"Show me one post where I've said anything remotely similar to this: "as evidenced by users here (like V.G.) who think that we'll "get along fine" with creeping sharia in North America if we just blow them kisses."

Ah - see this is why you never actually offer an opinion of your own. You know perfectly well that you've offered NOTHING of yourself to be scrutinized directly, which is why I'm calling you out on it. (Repeatedly, to no effect.)

One has no choice but to guess what your opinions actually are by what you criticize and what you don't -- but then you can claim "I never said that" when someone comes close to pinpointing your thought patterns from a map of your criticisms. You can then immediately start criticizing something else and even do a near-180 shift. Since you never have a stance of your own, you're free to be "thought police" on everyone else.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Ah - see this is why you never actually offer an opinion of your own. You know perfectly well that you've offered NOTHING of yourself to be scrutinized directly, which is why I'm calling you out on it. (Repeatedly, to no effect.)

One has no choice but to guess what your opinions actually are by what you criticize and what you don't -- but then you can claim "I never said that" when someone comes close to pinpointing your thought patterns from a map of your criticisms. You can then immediately start criticizing something else and even do a near-180 shift. Since you never have a stance of your own, you're free to be "thought police" on everyone else.

You made this statement: "as evidenced by users here (like V.G.) who think that we'll "get along fine" with creeping sharia in North America if we just blow them kisses."

Back it up.

And if you can't figure out my stance, I'd suggest remedial reading classes. Perhaps with an emphasis on comprehension.

 

[sphenodont]

...and no, the crusades were nowhere near the scale of islam's 1400-year killing spree.

Ah, so a dodge and a non-sequitur: the expected response from someone who apparently can use the phrase "creeping sharia" in earnest.

 

[Fern]

Thanks Fern, the scary question remains though - how many others are still there? those freaks are scaring the Muslims who live there, as much as they do to the Europeans.

I came up with this using google. I'm not sure it's the same news broadcast I heard, but it seems to be basically the same info:

I spoke today with a former chief of France's counterterror service, and he said, in the simplest terms, and I'm quoting here, "There are too many of them, too few of us," too many suspected jihadis, too few in the police and the intelligence services to track them.

And he gave me a sense, Jake, of the numbers here. He says, for any one suspect, It takes three to as many as 20 agents to track them. You're talking 24/7, and in France alone, there are some 5,000 names on the list of suspected jihadis. You do the math there, you're talking about tens of thousands of security personnel necessary to track those people and that's just an impossible mathematics to make practical here.

He also told me that a particular problem is when these suspects go silent, when they're off the grid for a couple years. You can't keep up that surveillance and he says that's what happened with Cherif Kouachi and, of course, that allowed perhaps an opportunity for him to carry out the carnage they carried out yesterday just down the street from me here.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1501/08/cg.01.html

Fern

 

[Zebo]

Simple divide and conquer. The capitalists in pseudo democratics we live in wish to take your eyes off the ball. If they can forment ethic and cultural divisions they can play in the billions and blame you ignorant fucks for any problems. Whether it be terrorism, white supremacy or what have you. Idea is keep the rable against one another while cabital keeps all the marbles. No longer is it easy to work a full day in most countries and live a good life with all necessities provided. This is all by dseisgn IMO. Why else spend $75,000 for one hellfire missle which can provide meals for 10 families for a whole year in many counties? And we blow 1000s of hellfires. All to profit a tiny minority of the richest.

Dont get me wrong I have huge problem with Islamic fundis who practice unmitigated violence because violence for violence plays into capitals hands.

 

[Zorkorist]

Hi Zebo... welcome back

-John