Why Dell sucks.
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IMO windows should make it easier to configure your startup programs. 99% of people don't know of MSconfig.
dell made amd laptops? when was this.
anyways dell is there just to make money. if they can sell 50% of the people ram upgrades from 128 to 512 for $100 why not do it? its an excellent strategy for making more money.
anyways dell is there just to make money. if they can sell 50% of the people ram upgrades from 128 to 512 for $100 why not do it? its an excellent strategy for making more money.
I agree.
I dont think a gig is absolutly necesary like he says, i get fine on 512 (though i plan to go to a gig soon). As long as you keep an eye on startup stuff 512 is fine for most people.
I dont think a gig is absolutly necesary like he says, i get fine on 512 (though i plan to go to a gig soon). As long as you keep an eye on startup stuff 512 is fine for most people.
LOL, good catch
on another note, how does this pertain to ONLY dell? sony, toshiba, HP, compaq, etc... throw in all their crap on their laptops as well
mechBgon
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This goes for pretty much ANY computer manufacturer... this is why you just reformat and install what you WANT as soon as you get the machine.
SneakyStuff
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My neighbors brother got one of those systems. It was a Dimension 2400, came with a 2.66 GHz P4, cd-rw, 17 inch LCD, everything an internet surfer would love right? Well the 128MB of RAM on that thing was an incredible inconvenience. I was asked to help install the wireless network card on the machine, and set it up. WOW. It took me over 2 hours, and half of that time was wasted restarting the comp because it froze. 
mechBgon
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Well, to be fair to them, they were under DDoS attack by one of the big-time worms at the time, Blaster if I recall correctly. But I couldn't help a chuckle or two :evil:
Ooookay, drifted off topic a bit
I have to agree that mailing flyers and publishing ads boasting about a ~$399 system (with 128MB of RAM) is a cheap shot, since a lot of buyers won't realize that 128MB of RAM isn't enough for the system to run anywhere near its full potential (whatever that might be with slow hard drives, Celerons as a CPU option, and onboard video, plus single-channel DDR on some of the budget models).I've read Dell's printed catalogs and they do discuss how more RAM enables the computer to run more programs simultaneously, and they do say something to the effect that "most Dementia 2400 buyers choose 256MB of RAM," dropping a hint that there's a reason to opt for more RAM.
Still, even 256MB of (single-channel) RAM, minus the chunk allocated to the onboard video (32MB?) is not much for a WinXP system with antivirus software. So the author's point is valid insofar as it goes. The bigger offense in my mind, however, is consumer-oriented computers that don't even have AGP slots on the motherboard. :frown: I mean, at least you can add RAM. :frown: Try adding an AGP port.
Cerb
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E-Machines actually offer an excellent PC...
AthlonXP barton, 512MB normal, GF2 IGP w/ AGP slot, etc..
Dell just got out the Dimension 3000...WHY, WHY, WHY not give it discrete video? If it had a Radeon 7000VE option, I'd give it as a recommendation to friends and acquaintences in a heartbeat!
And what's with 2.8 as the minimum P4? Most people can use a 2.4C and still be slowed down to a crawl with a Celeron D.
A 2.4C on a 848 board with 512MB RAM and a 7000VE would suit most people's needs very well for the next few years.
AthlonXP barton, 512MB normal, GF2 IGP w/ AGP slot, etc..
Dell just got out the Dimension 3000...WHY, WHY, WHY not give it discrete video? If it had a Radeon 7000VE option, I'd give it as a recommendation to friends and acquaintences in a heartbeat!
And what's with 2.8 as the minimum P4? Most people can use a 2.4C and still be slowed down to a crawl with a Celeron D.
A 2.4C on a 848 board with 512MB RAM and a 7000VE would suit most people's needs very well for the next few years.
Avalon
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My dad had bought a compaq celeron machine for my sister several months back without my consent (I try to make sure no one in the family buys garbage) . Well, it had only 128mb of RAM. It was disgustingly slow. Sometimes, it would take a full minute to load an IE browser, and the comp froze often. It had XP Home on it. I went out and bought it a 512MB stick and formatted it. It runs better now, but everything else in the system is pretty cheap as well, so it's still not that great even for just general usage I think the system was $299.
. Well, it had only 128mb of RAM. It was disgustingly slow. Sometimes, it would take a full minute to load an IE browser, and the comp froze often. It had XP Home on it. I went out and bought it a 512MB stick and formatted it. It runs better now, but everything else in the system is pretty cheap as well, so it's still not that great even for just general usage I think the system was $299.
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i used to work for my community college's IT department and the first thing we are ordered to do when we get dells in is format and fdisk the things and do a fresh install of XP Pro to remove all of the "crap"
That's exactly what I do with our new Dells at my agency. Reformat, reinstall and then create a lean, mean computing machine.
Jeff7
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HP too - they put around 7 programs on one system I worked on, and as far as I can tell, their main purpose is to shove the HP logo in the user's face. They also do use up RAM, thus encouraging an upgrade - by buying some really expensive RAM from them too.
I read an article recently that said AT&T Wireless ranked worst among the major wireless service providers. Guess what all 5 ads on the page were for?
I read an article recently that said AT&T Wireless ranked worst among the major wireless service providers. Guess what all 5 ads on the page were for?
when my 400SC came in with 128MB of RAM it ran quite zippy for a week until I got more rammory. IE surfing under XP created no issues at all, even playing flash games, and running zonealarm / mcaffee.
anyway, how is it dell's fault that they are giving you the option to use ram you already have / want to buy yourself? jebus.
anyway, how is it dell's fault that they are giving you the option to use ram you already have / want to buy yourself? jebus.
I think what they are trying to point out is that Dell loads all of this pre-installed software up at every boot-up. It then proceeds to hog a ton of resources while pretending to be ready to do what you want to do. Don't forget all of the Dell diagnostic programs that they put on there to 'Help' you.
If they devoted a small section of the 'setting up your system' poster to show you how to dis-able half of the crap they put on there it would be one thing. But no, they load you with uneeded/mostly unwanted crap and push you out the door. Then, stand by, ready to sell you more memory to 'fix' the problem.
I used to tell people who complain to me that their computer is running slow: Back up any stuff you have on the system and drop in the recovery CD. This will erase all the garbage your kids have installed over the past year and bring the system back to its original performance (just like the day you took it out of the box).
(Of course, I used to tell them to install anti-virus and anti-adware/spyware right away).
Now, I can't even tell them to do that.
I think most business and tech savy people reload their laptops when they get them. When I worked at my old job I created customized images of the Dell machines we had. That way there's no unnecessary garbage on them and it makes troubleshooting quick and easy. Dump their data, reload, copy their data back.
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