Why can't I have multiple wives?

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SunnyD

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OP, given the choice between you or the other "wife", I'm pretty sure you'd turn your wives into lesbians in a New York minute.
 

child of wonder

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In terms of marriage in general, all the government should do is recognize the legal ramifications of the union of two consenting adults plus grant some tax benefits. Outside of that, if your religion or other person with the authority to wed will marry you and one, two, three, four, etc. people go ahead and call yourselves married. Don't care. But the more wives/husbands you have should not bring more and more government benefits or tax breaks.
 

cronos

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I have a friend with two separate families (legal, where they are). He has businesses in two different cities (more than a thousand miles distance, on a different island) and travels between them all the time. He got married early (right out of college) and immediately started building his business, and I guess when he started to expand and found himself traveled a lot, at one point he decided that he gets lonely when he's in the other city, so he started a new family there.

I personally could not imagine the logistical (not to mention emotional) nightmare of having two households with two wives and two sets of kids. But it looks like he's doing just fine.

Side note: he's got two different Facebook accounts, one for each family. This confused the heck out of me when we first reconnected, as after he added me the first time, he added me again from another profile with pictures of all different people :D
 
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Raizinman

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I stopped there. What a ridiculous list. Women hate each other. Do you never watch reality tv?

Have you never noticed that:

MOST:
Women tend to go out to eat together
Women tend to go shopping together
Women tend to go to the bathroom together
Women tend to like the same TV shows and movies
Women can and have no problem sharing clothing, shoes, jewelry, etc.
Women seem to like to do each others hair, nails, etc.
 

poofyhairguy

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Have you never noticed that:

MOST:
Women tend to go out to eat together
Women tend to go shopping together
Women tend to go to the bathroom together
Women tend to like the same TV shows and movies
Women can and have no problem sharing clothing, shoes, jewelry, etc.
Women seem to like to do each others hair, nails, etc.

Women are generally more social creatures than men, that can't be doubted. But girl on girl violence is real, that social need is a double-edged sword.

Mean Girls has been in existence for 10 years and you act like catfighting is news.
 

SMOGZINN

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I mean from a legal standpoint. Like... all these gay people are starting to get rights. It's okay for women to marry women and men to do wierd shit in women's bathrooms so who is it making the call that I can't have more than one wife?

You might think this is an L&R post but really it's about the legality of having multiple.

If I am capable of finding multiple mates why can't I do that? Legally married to all of them. I can pump out like 30 kids and get my tax credits like anybody else? There are more women in the world than men anyways, who is going to take care of all those women? I will I say. I will.

I know that you posted this as some kind of joke to demonstrate both your anti-gay and misogynistic bigotry, in the same way that some rednecks think it is funny to tell 'negro' jokes, but I'm going to answer this seriously for those that are reading along.

First off, you have at least on fact wrong, there are more men in the world than women currently thanks to China's one child law.

But that doesn't matter, because we don't really care that every man gets a women, or woman a man, we only really care that people are allowed to choose their mates, or choose not to have on at all. Otherwise we would have some type of national matchmaking lottery and just match everyone up. There is no real need to encourage reproduction, that happens all on it's own without needing government assistance. So, what is the government's interest in encouraging marriage?

If we remove the religious aspect, like our government should, we don't really have one. All the arguments for favoring marriage status tend to fall apart, and certianly none of them would work for a two person marriage but not a larger group. The only reasonable excuse that is left is that the governments interest in marriage is about the allocation of legal rights to and between mates, as well as the peaceful redistribution of wealth on dissolvement of the arrangement through divorce or death. Here we can see an argument that the government's task would be made harder by multiple marriage. This is the crux of the argument against multiple marriage today; it would be difficult to modify our current rules to fit in more than two people into the legal framework. Being difficult is not a good legal reason to not do something.

The truth is we have some time to go before we are ready for legalizing plural marriage.
We first need to fight to have it made not actively illegal to have multiple partners, than we need to define just what we mean by 'plural marriage'. There are many different types, and we have to come up with some sort of framework that will either work with them all, or creates a fair system to let people get pretty close to their desired relationship status.
 

Vdubchaos

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Women are generally more social creatures than men, that can't be doubted. But girl on girl violence is real, that social need is a double-edged sword.

Mean Girls has been in existence for 10 years and you act like catfighting is news.

Seems to me like many of you guys need to spend less time around girls and more around proper women!

Decent woman will find most average women annoying......and same goes for man > boys.

:)

Good luck finding one...
 

Vdubchaos

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The truth is we have some time to go before we are ready for legalizing plural marriage.
We first need to fight to have it made not actively illegal to have multiple partners, than we need to define just what we mean by 'plural marriage'. There are many different types, and we have to come up with some sort of framework that will either work with them all, or creates a fair system to let people get pretty close to their desired relationship status.

Frame work for "sleeping around with whoever".

It's called human nature and many do it. Why in the world do you need some kind of legal validation or government recognition for <insert anything> that you might be doing.

I would prefer to keep those 2 away from me (Legal system and Government).
 

jlee

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Frame work for "sleeping around with whoever".

It's called human nature and many do it. Why in the world do you need some kind of legal validation or government recognition for <insert anything> that you might be doing.

I would prefer to keep those 2 away from me (Legal system and Government).

When laws are in place that make <insert anything> that you might be doing illegal.
 

Vdubchaos

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This is America, all that matters is children.

All while our country, school system, parents and just about everything is failing them COMPLETELY.

"If you are going to have a nation of spoiled, arrogant and selfish people. You will end up with leaders that are just that"

George Carlin

I see these creatures EVERYWHERE!!!!
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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Frame work for "sleeping around with whoever".
So, you are saying that marriage is a framework for "sleeping around with whoever"? Is that what your marriage is about? Why would you think that a plural marriage would be any different? Just because someone wants to have sex with 3 people does not mean they want to with anyone else.

I would prefer to keep those 2 away from me (Legal system and Government).
Your argument against making things legal is that you want less government? I think you have this backwards.
 
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You can't have multiple wives because you could never successfully convince multiple women to marry you.
 

smackababy

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I think the OP should work on having a single wife before worrying about getting another. I'm sure he's having a hard enough time with that.
 

SlitheryDee

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We have a lot of reasons that we like to bring up, but I think it boils down to evenly spreading out a finite resource. We're almost equally divided between male and female in terms of population. If a few guys get a bunch of wives, that theoretically leaves a bunch of other guys wifeless. Regardless of our conscious rationalizations, we know that instinctively and set up our societal rules to avoid it.
 

jlee

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We have a lot of reasons that we like to bring up, but I think it boils down to evenly spreading out a finite resource. We're almost equally divided between male and female in terms of population. If a few guys get a bunch of wives, that theoretically leaves a bunch of other guys wifeless. Regardless of our conscious rationalizations, we know that instinctively and set up our societal rules to avoid it.

Haha, there are plenty of wifeless guys around already - and those who want more than one girl in their lives aren't going to stick with one anyway. :p
 

Nograts

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Those saying I don't even have a wife and I'm crazy for wanting another:

I'm sorry you have an awful marriage and married a despicable woman. Not all of us did.

Now where's my women?
 

SlitheryDee

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Haha, there are plenty of wifeless guys around already - and those who want more than one girl in their lives aren't going to stick with one anyway. :p

We don't like to think about it, but we're biologically inclined to arrange ourselves in harems. Some men are powerfully attractive to women. They have the right mix of appearance and personality to be to women like catnip is to a cat. Without certain societal rules in place, they would literally get ALL the women all the time. That would be very disruptive to social order if we allowed it to happen though. Our taboos are in place to defend the rest of us and our relationships against these individuals.

You know those guys who bang a lot of chicks, constantly cheat on them with other women, yet still seem to have the same girls pining over them and coming back to them for more abuse over and over again? Those guys hit the genetic lottery so-to-speak. They can't help what they are any more than women can help being attracted to them and falling madly in love with them if they are around them long enough. We're just animals. Everything we do makes perfect sense when we look at ourselves that way.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
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We don't like to think about it, but we're biologically inclined to arrange ourselves in harems. Some men are powerfully attractive to women. They have the right mix of appearance and personality to be to women like catnip is to a cat. Without certain societal rules in place, they would literally get ALL the women all the time. That would be very disruptive to social order if we allowed it to happen though. Our taboos are in place to defend the rest of us and our relationships against these individuals.

Except, when allowed to do whatever they will, this does not actually happen. There are just as many, if not more, women with multiple male partners than the other way around in the poly communities. The harem style of relationship is by far the most rare poly relationship. This is because when you take away the idea of relationship scarcity what you find is that women choose different men for different qualities, and prefer to share rather than compete.
 

jlee

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We don't like to think about it, but we're biologically inclined to arrange ourselves in harems. Some men are powerfully attractive to women. They have the right mix of appearance and personality to be to women like catnip is to a cat. Without certain societal rules in place, they would literally get ALL the women all the time. That would be very disruptive to social order if we allowed it to happen though. Our taboos are in place to defend the rest of us and our relationships against these individuals.

You know those guys who bang a lot of chicks, constantly cheat on them with other women, yet still seem to have the same girls pining over them and coming back to them for more abuse over and over again? Those guys hit the genetic lottery so-to-speak. They can't help what they are any more than women can help being attracted to them and falling madly in love with them if they are around them long enough. We're just animals. Everything we do makes perfect sense when we look at ourselves that way.

Nah, I think our taboos are in place because of religious mindsets. I am in a polyamorous relationship, so there's no "abuse" and no "cheating."
 

Vdubchaos

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We don't like to think about it, but we're biologically inclined to arrange ourselves in harems. Some men are powerfully attractive to women. They have the right mix of appearance and personality to be to women like catnip is to a cat. Without certain societal rules in place, they would literally get ALL the women all the time. That would be very disruptive to social order if we allowed it to happen though. Our taboos are in place to defend the rest of us and our relationships against these individuals.

You know those guys who bang a lot of chicks, constantly cheat on them with other women, yet still seem to have the same girls pining over them and coming back to them for more abuse over and over again? Those guys hit the genetic lottery so-to-speak. They can't help what they are any more than women can help being attracted to them and falling madly in love with them if they are around them long enough. We're just animals. Everything we do makes perfect sense when we look at ourselves that way.

I've seen many of these types and I struggle to understand the appeal.

Actually I think it's quite unappealing.

And those women are not loyal to them at all and do the same thing the men do (sleep around). Essentially it comes down to bunch of backstabing, disease, drama and unhappiness.

Even if they were loyal, disease free, drama free and didn't backstab.....I see 0 appeal with dealing with more than 1 special person/woman at a time.

No thanks.

But I like people in small quantities, as in 1 special one. That's all I need and enough human flavor to satisfy my needs.

Nothing wrong with being the opposite, if that's what one likes or desires. WHatever floats that boat.
 
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