Why Biden is pulling the US -- and NATO -- out of Afghanistan

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We essentially already left Afghanistan under Trump. 2500 troops is enough to secure embassies, not enough to control events on the ground or evacuate people. Trump released Taliban leader and 5000 prisoner fighters, twice as many as US troops left behind. So people complaining about Afghanistan collapsing while at same time saying it's a good idea to leave are being silly. If you want to leave, then it's not up to you if Afghanistan collapses.
 
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Ajay

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K1052 said:
They start shooting at American forces and the game is, once again, up. Presumably they wish their rule to last more than a couple weeks. This is incentive is to let the foreigners get out.
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Well, to, uh, preserve the current relative peace, we are moving in these from the 160th SOAR.

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Ajay said:
Well, to, uh, preserve the current relative peace, we are moving in these from the 160th SOAR.

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The chaos outside KBL with afghans trying to get out has seemingly triggered the US to send sorties into and around Kabul to pick people up. You can catch the Mi 17s running about on flight tracking every once in a while. Going to want to have some significant cover for that I presume.
 
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Ajay said:
Well, to, uh, preserve the current relative peace, we are moving in these from the 160th SOAR.

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Would suck to be on the receiving end of that. Those SOAR Kentucky boys went through a lot of Somali/Iraqi/Taliban militia. Being on the business end of a pair of mini-guns is a harrowing thought, almost feel bad for them. AF rolled out laser guidance kits for those rockets couple years ago too, now every rocket goes right where you want it. Might be the closest form of CAS there is. Those pilots have brass nuts. Gotta respect those who will roar in at 50ft or less to protect comrades on the ground, becoming bullet magnets in the process. Night doesn't offer the protection it used too.

I hope they aren't needed.
 
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pauldun170 said:
Greece tends to be dicks about anyone who isn't Greek coming into the country.
Come in for your little vacation. Spend your money. GTFO

Summary of Greek immigration law
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This is pretty accurate from my experience. Empty your pockets and make sure you don't miss your flight home.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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kage69 said:
Would suck to be on the receiving end of that. Those SOAR Kentucky boys went through a lot of Somali/Iraqi/Taliban militia. Being on the business end of a pair of mini-guns is a harrowing thought, almost feel bad for them. AF rolled out laser guidance kits for those rockets couple years ago too, now every rocket goes right where you want it. Might be the closest form of CAS there is. Those pilots have brass nuts. Gotta respect those who will roar in at 50ft or less to protect comrades on the ground, becoming bullet magnets in the process. Night doesn't offer the protection it used too.

I hope they aren't needed.
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It's funny how far off movies get miniguns. Those things sound like the loudest waterfall you've ever heard, and fire rounds like one.
 
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K1052 said:
This is pretty accurate from my experience. Empty your pockets and make sure you don't miss your flight home.
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To make things worse, Greece's visa process might be a bit more on the "Romantic Comedy" level of detail and organization if you don't know someone who lives there and is within walking distance of a local clerk who knows who to ask about forms and was going there anyway because they wanted to pick up a bottle of grappa for a wedding next saturday
 
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K1052 said:
Times when a high maintenance burden is actually an advantage. They're more likely to kill themselves trying to use any of it.
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wouldn’t they just sell it to the Chinese? I am sure they would like to get their hands on this stuff to reverse engineer them.
 
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chowderhead said:
wouldn’t they just sell it to the Chinese? I am sure they would like to get their hands on this stuff to reverse engineer them.
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Reverse engineering decades old helicopters probably isn't worth it to them. Given they already ripped off a ton of western technology to build the C919 which is garbage that nobody wants (except for the Chinese companies the gov can make swallow it) I'm not all that concerned.
 
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Greece doesnt want all those brown people coming in

Greece extends border wall fearing Afghan migrants (msn.com) (Reuters)
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Greece is on the verge of tipping alt right.
That is the real "enemy" that left leaning folk should be vary of, the alt right wingers of our respective nations. While it may be illogical in terms of capacity and an infantile disease of mankind, we need to tend to the weak minds in our own midst, cause as Churchill inferred, they have a vote too.
 
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If you want to know why little to no processing of visas for Afghans happened, look no further than Stephen Miller. Olivia Troye is spilling the beans. This was no accident.
 
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chowderhead said:
wouldn’t they just sell it to the Chinese? I am sure they would like to get their hands on this stuff to reverse engineer them.
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Yes. Well dunno about Chinese, but sell it, yes, pocket the money.
But its chump change, for hookers and blow, compared to the natural resources of agn, so is a "meh" at best.
Also, without a supply chain to keep the hardware operational, I mean, sigh.
 
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hal2kilo said:
If you want to know why little to no processing of visas for Afghans happened, look no further than Stephen Miller. Olivia Troye is spilling the beans. This was no accident.
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When was Stephen Miller born? 1945? Turned vampire around 1985? I am pretty sure Adolf was reincarnated straight into Miller.
 
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hal2kilo said:
If you want to know why little to no processing of visas for Afghans happened, look no further than Stephen Miller. Olivia Troye is spilling the beans. This was no accident.
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Yup.

www.businessinsider.com

A former Pence adviser said Trump had 4 years to help Afghan allies leave the country but Stephen Miller's 'racist hysteria' blocked it from happening

She claimed the allies of Trump and Miller across the administration actively worked against the visa process for Afghans who helped US troops.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
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hal2kilo said:
The Fn hypocrite is the son of Jewish immigrants that escaped Belarus during WWII.
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Why is this hypocrisy when zionism exists?

Anyway, d@mm&d be the murricans, I just hope the rest of the world is paying attention to all this and "learning".
 
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Jhhnn: Don't you WTF me ;o)

I don't say WTF to anybody on this forum your opinion is your own and I don't bash it ;o)

Come what may we can only speculate.

I'm glad Canada didn't have anything to do with the Vietnam War - It was an internal affair to rid the French and Americans during the Cold War so they could have an independent society. Ho Chi Minh had to go to China to accomplish it. Look at Vietnam today, costing millions of their people lives after 100 years of occupation. Good for them.

South Korea and Taiwan maybe getting ansi considering the out come of this episode. Afghanistan has yet to play out - Hell the Russians where in there and gave up. Just hope it doesn't cost countless more lives over terrorism and the heroin market. Look at Peru, Columbia and Mexico on our door step. All them People and North American deserve better.

The 1% Rich Greedy People are playing Monopoly with our lives for profit using WAR over the sale of Armaments, Medicine and Drugs promising hope for a better future.

The World has to get together, beat COVID and all other diseases, WAR is HELL.

F#&K War by exploiting Racism, Religion, Drugs, Technology and Media feeds on it with No Answer.

Trust you keep the bathroom fan on to keep the stink out ;o)
 
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