why bash on christians so much?

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Ryland

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This is either a troll response or the most naïve thing I've seen since (insert ATOT forum user name) claimed to have gotten laid.

That STILL didn't answer my question. Yes there are some extreme Atheists who try to tear religion down but the OP's original question was generalized across ALL Atheists and since I haven't seen, in general, ALL Atheists tearing at religion I asked for specifics....

Maybe the problem is that I lump Atheists and Agnostics into the same bucket....shrug
 

Cerpin Taxt

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the irony...

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kage69

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Doesn't apply at all.

YMMV of course, but my life experience living in a variety of locations certainly corroborates what that toon illustrates.

I spent 5 years in the Middle East, and in that time I was never once talked down to for not being a Muslim, and at no time was I threatened with physical or verbal abuse.

My college years and one year after graduation was spent in the Bible Belt of the South. Being harassed, stalked, insulted, and proselytized to was practically a weekly occurrence, and on two occasions my ignoring and walking away from this behavior got projectiles and spit sent my way. Any event the christian community saw as a threat was met with organized behavior which was quite, IMO, un-christian.

People sometimes resort to bashing christians (yes it happens) because the majority of this group are unabashed hypocrites who aren't shy about forcing their beliefs on others. If they kept their beliefs to themselves and could just give their pathetic victim mentality a rest, I bet everyone would be better off and happier in general.

If christians can't deal with someone calling a spade a spade as Cerpin just opined, well, that's tough shit I guess.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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If christians can't deal with someone calling a spade a spade as Cerpin just opined, well, that's tough shit I guess.

Well, Malak would have us believe that there are no True™ Christians in the world, except where he can personally verify that some alleged True™ Christians do not perform behaviors which are inconvenient for his arguments.

:rolleyes:
 

Hayabusa Rider

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That STILL didn't answer my question. Yes there are some extreme Atheists who try to tear religion down but the OP's original question was generalized across ALL Atheists and since I haven't seen, in general, ALL Atheists tearing at religion I asked for specifics....

Maybe the problem is that I lump Atheists and Agnostics into the same bucket....shrug

All would be wrong. The majority really don't care. If the context is this and other forums, then there is merit to the sentiment. Outside of the dedicated neffing threads you'll find that religion threads dominate in length.

Note that a great many responses are like the one I just sarcastically quoted. They occasionally discern between different viewpoints within Christianity, but usually there isn't a distinction. Well in that context "blacks are thieves" is equally accurate since the statistics show that proportionately true. If I were to make that statement in earnest I would be called a racist. The argument made against that generalization is that blacks don't choose to be black, but that's nonsense because we're talking about an activity, namely crime. Statistically they choose to become criminals like Christians choose to be stupid.

Fortunately most people aren't bigoted to the point where they swallow the "Black = criminal" statement at face value. It's far more complicated than that. Many of these same people however are glad to do precisely that with religion. Christians are as diverse as blacks.

The problem lies with people like those at the Creation Museum where there is a carefully scripted vision of reality which has kids playing with dinosaurs. From what we can know that makes no sense. Like the black thug, it gives those who seize on it a reason to generalize.

Again, that's not rational, but it's an emotional not an objective sentiment.

Going back to the post I quoted, I'd like to see those in this thread provide evidence of their super scientific credentials compared to Francis Collins. Google that name. Yet he's stupid because a spade is a spade.

In fact we had someone in another religion bashing thread that insisted that Collins wasn't a scientist for all his accomplishments because by some definition one couldn't be a scientist and have any religious beliefs whatsoever.

Now that's a reality disconnect.

For me it's not if a person has faith at all, but what they have faith about. If it's that the earth is 10k or 6k years then it's a non starter. To call ALL stupid is being as bigoted as saying ALL blacks are criminals.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Well, Malak would have us believe that there are no True™ Christians in the world, except where he can personally verify that some alleged True™ Christians do not perform behaviors which are inconvenient for his arguments.

:rolleyes:


Would you demonstrate that in reality you are superior to Francis Collins in scientific ability?

Thanks.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Sure. I have a magical tomato that makes it so.


You're welcome.

:rolleyes:

You say that calling a Christian stupid is calling a spade a spade. Therefore Collins is stupid. You aren't a christian so your abilities are superior. Besides a magical tomato demonstrate evidence that you are more capable than he.

If you cannot then your are more stupid than stupid.

Yours is not an intellectual response, but an emotional statement of the superiority of your ego.

Evidently your superior ability is faith based.
 

slayer202

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All would be wrong. The majority really don't care. If the context is this and other forums, then there is merit to the sentiment. Outside of the dedicated neffing threads you'll find that religion threads dominate in length.

Note that a great many responses are like the one I just sarcastically quoted. They occasionally discern between different viewpoints within Christianity, but usually there isn't a distinction. Well in that context "blacks are thieves" is equally accurate since the statistics show that proportionately true. If I were to make that statement in earnest I would be called a racist. The argument made against that generalization is that blacks don't choose to be black, but that's nonsense because we're talking about an activity, namely crime. Statistically they choose to become criminals like Christians choose to be stupid.

Fortunately most people aren't bigoted to the point where they swallow the "Black = criminal" statement at face value. It's far more complicated than that. Many of these same people however are glad to do precisely that with religion. Christians are as diverse as blacks.

The problem lies with people like those at the Creation Museum where there is a carefully scripted vision of reality which has kids playing with dinosaurs. From what we can know that makes no sense. Like the black thug, it gives those who seize on it a reason to generalize.

Again, that's not rational, but it's an emotional not an objective sentiment.

Going back to the post I quoted, I'd like to see those in this thread provide evidence of their super scientific credentials compared to Francis Collins. Google that name. Yet he's stupid because a spade is a spade.

In fact we had someone in another religion bashing thread that insisted that Collins wasn't a scientist for all his accomplishments because by some definition one couldn't be a scientist and have any religious beliefs whatsoever.

Now that's a reality disconnect.

For me it's not if a person has faith at all, but what they have faith about. If it's that the earth is 10k or 6k years then it's a non starter. To call ALL stupid is being as bigoted as saying ALL blacks are criminals.

that's a whole lot of bullshit. saying religious people are stupid is not even close to saying blacks are thieves. Believing in something that is clearly absurd if you really educate yourself is stupid. Ignoring knowledge and information is just ignorant. Because religion is a touchy subject people can't seem to take criticism that is fine when discussing many other topics
 

Cerpin Taxt

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You say that calling a Christian stupid is calling a spade a spade. Therefore Collins is stupid. You aren't a christian so your abilities are superior. Besides a magical tomato demonstrate evidence that you are more capable than he.
Existential quantifier |= Universal quantifier. Kthx.

If you cannot then your are more stupid than stupid.

Yours is not an intellectual response, but an emotional statement of the superiority of your ego.

Evidently your superior ability is faith based.

Whatisthisidonteven... :confused::confused::confused:
 

slayer202

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You say that calling a Christian stupid is calling a spade a spade. Therefore Collins is stupid. You aren't a christian so your abilities are superior. Besides a magical tomato demonstrate evidence that you are more capable than he.

If you cannot then your are more stupid than stupid.

Yours is not an intellectual response, but an emotional statement of the superiority of your ego.

Evidently your superior ability is faith based.

wtf are you talking about. Francis CollinsFrancis CollinsFrancis CollinsFrancis CollinsFrancis Collins. who gives a fuck. so there are a few scientists who believe in god. because he is a scientist who has apparently done some good things doesn't make him rational. If you look at INTELLIGENT people, you'll see that a large number are atheists. Look at STUPID people, they're pretty much all religious
 

Hayabusa Rider

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that's a whole lot of bullshit. saying religious people are stupid is not even close to saying blacks are thieves. Believing in something that is clearly absurd if you really educate yourself is stupid. Ignoring knowledge and information is just ignorant. Because religion is a touchy subject people can't seem to take criticism that is fine when discussing many other topics

No, but then again you are a bigot.
 

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I think the problem is bashing Christians rather than Christianity, I hate the religion but I'm indifference to the followers, there are all sorts of reasons to disregard logic and follow some crackpot ancient ideas, make fun of the ideas not the people who believe in them, maybe they were abused, or brought up in a horrible area with nothing else to believe in, maybe they lack education, maybe they were dropped on their heads as a child. None of these things deserve being made fun of, make fun of the religion not the religions.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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wtf are you talking about. Francis CollinsFrancis CollinsFrancis CollinsFrancis CollinsFrancis Collins. who gives a fuck. so there are a few scientists who believe in god. because he is a scientist who has apparently done some good things doesn't make him rational. If you look at INTELLIGENT people, you'll see that a large number are atheists. Look at STUPID people, they're pretty much all religious

Actually not all christians are 10k creationists, but then again not all blacks are criminals.

I would say that on certain issues you aren't rational. This seems to be one. BTW, the words used were "stupid". The problem with these threads is they tend to use glittering generalities to make points about the whole. That's not rational, but it is stupid.

That you are butthurt really doesn't matter.
 

slayer202

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Actually not all christians are 10k creationists, but then again not all blacks are criminals.

I would say that on certain issues you aren't rational. This seems to be one. BTW, the words used were "stupid". The problem with these threads is they tend to use glittering generalities to make points about the whole. That's not rational, but it is stupid.

That you are butthurt really doesn't matter.

you clearly have no sense of reality because you have trouble comprehending basic statements and forming rational and sensical responses and counter-arguments. You are making ZERO sense

Yes, I'm sure you aren't one of the stupids mentioned in the thread :rolleyes: