Why Barack Obama Is Winning

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Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
WHat's said in the article is evident in the way Obama has presented himself through the campaign. A steadiness and self confidence one would expect from a leader, something that McCain has been sorely lacking.

Do those symptoms stem from youth going up against a very old man?
 

Jhhnn

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Obama's winning despite the color of his skin, despite the fact that he's liberal, and despite the smears because repubs thoroughly discredited themselves w/ the Bush Admin and the Repub Congress.

A tiger can't change his stripes, and McCain can't get far enough away from that truth to win, either. Even if he could, he'd lose the Bush Faithful, and thereby the election. The illusion that the party of rightwing ideologues can govern in a way that benefits America as a whole was shattered by repub incompetence and greed. Just the way it is, and they have nobody to blame but themselves.
 

Juddog

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Obama's winning despite the color of his skin, despite the fact that he's liberal, and despite the smears because repubs thoroughly discredited themselves w/ the Bush Admin and the Repub Congress.

A tiger can't change his stripes, and McCain can't get far enough away from that truth to win, either. Even if he could, he'd lose the Bush Faithful, and thereby the election. The illusion that the party of rightwing ideologues can govern in a way that benefits America as a whole was shattered by repub incompetence and greed. Just the way it is, and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

This sums up how McCain feels about Bush pretty well:
SNL skit
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
And the reason he's getting a lot of grief is because he black plain and simple. If he were to be white, I bet this would be a landslide.
What grief is he getting...the media has had an endless love affair with Obama since he took Iowa...if Obama was white, he would be Howard Dean, and his campaign would have fallen to Hillary the same as all the other white Democrat candidates.

All of the political conditions favorable to Obama were also favorable to Kerry...how did being white work out for the Senator from MA?

I really don't understand why people insist on injecting race into every discussion about Obama...sure there are people who will refuse to vote for Obama because of his race...there are apparently more people supporting Obama because of his race.

Uh, didn't YOU just inject race into a discussion about Obama as an excuse for why he's winning?

Edit: I also have to say that I think it's REALLY pathetic that Republicans are trying to turn Obama's success into a gripe about Affirmative Action. You have no real argument as to WHY he wouldn't be doing well if he was white, just the unspoken belief that a black man can't POSSIBLY accomplish anything without using race to his advantage. In the first place it's a stupid-ass argument in a country that's still as racially divided as the USA, and in the second place you guys end up sounding like huge racists. Obama can't POSSIBLY be a good candidate, it must be that he's black!
 

Starbuck1975

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You have no real argument as to WHY he wouldn't be doing well if he was white
He would have simply been another white guy on the stage while Hillary marched off with the nomination...Obama vs. Hillary setup the ultimate cage match...race politics versus gender politics...I have no love for Bill Clinton, but even I will admit that the media and political backlash against him, with accusations of racism, was absurd.

At no time did I evoke affirmative action in my statements...Obama is poised to take the Presidency because he ran an effective campaign...however, I do not think you can dismiss that race, good or bad, was a factor in how people perceive him.

I think it is a credit to the state of race in this country that Obama is drawing so many white voters...while I don't relish the thought of a Democrat President with a Democrat controlled Congress, I think Obama winning would be a healthy milestone of racial progress for our nation.