Why Barack Obama Is Winning

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Here's my analysis: Bush is totally unpopular and people want fresh change. (but the $$ helps)

Yep, and considering that - he should be WAY ahead in the polls but he isn't. Take either one of the above away and he'd have been toast.

He IS way ahead, if McCain wins this election, it will be one of the biggest upsets in the history of this country.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: SecPro
Although the part about his conversation with Gen. Petraeus was interesting (and a bit scary) the rest of it read like the usual Obama fluff piece. Joe Klein has done a lot better.

How was his conversation with the General "scary"?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Here's my analysis: Bush is totally unpopular and people want fresh change. (but the $$ helps)

Yep, and considering that - he should be WAY ahead in the polls but he isn't. Take either one of the above away and he'd have been toast.

He IS way ahead, if McCain wins this election, it will be one of the biggest upsets in the history of this country.

no he isn't. Some polls show him ahead but others show it really close and tightening. Also, WAY ahead is way into double digits - which he is not.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Here's my analysis: Bush is totally unpopular and people want fresh change. (but the $$ helps)

Yep, and considering that - he should be WAY ahead in the polls but he isn't. Take either one of the above away and he'd have been toast.

He IS way ahead, if McCain wins this election, it will be one of the biggest upsets in the history of this country.

no he isn't. Some polls show him ahead but others show it really close and tightening. Also, WAY ahead is way into double digits - which he is not.

You're analysis doesn't match virtually all of the non-partisan analysis out there. While we can argue about how far ahead "way ahead" is, Obama's ahead enough to make a McCain victory a very unlikely event.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Here's my analysis: Bush is totally unpopular and people want fresh change. (but the $$ helps)

Yep, and considering that - he should be WAY ahead in the polls but he isn't. Take either one of the above away and he'd have been toast.

He IS way ahead, if McCain wins this election, it will be one of the biggest upsets in the history of this country.

no he isn't. Some polls show him ahead but others show it really close and tightening. Also, WAY ahead is way into double digits - which he is not.

You're analysis doesn't match virtually all of the non-partisan analysis out there. While we can argue about how far ahead "way ahead" is, Obama's ahead enough to make a McCain victory a very unlikely event.

I never said it wasn't an unlikely event. However, with the tightening in the polls it is possible when according to the political reality as it exists today - he should be way further ahead than he currently is.
I have no idea what you consider "non-partisan analysis" but it'd be interesting to see what you are talking about since what I've been reading is how people can't believe it's this close due to the GWB and $ factor.

 

[Bitek]

What tightening? McCain is down 10 pts instead of 12? Way to bridge that gap considering 2000 and 2004 were 51/49. Or you only go by the more favorable polls which are the ones that toss out voters based on a model of "likeliness" which completely ignores the unprecedented new voter registration and voter enthusiasm?

That analysis is about as convincing as Rove in Fall of '06 professing his internal #'s suggest a Republican win and keeping the Senate and house. Oops. Anything can happen, but just how far ahead do you expect a young half-black man named Hussein to be over a longtime Washington celebrity politician and famous war hero to be?

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Butterbean
If Obama is winning he is winning because the media is a phalanx that runs interference for him. Not only do the not investigate him and his many many vulnerabilites but they smear anyone who opposes him. Joe the plumber gets reamed for asking a question, Plain get reamed for her wardrobe - but BO has yet to produce a birth certificate. This is about to blow-up because Philip J Berg - a Democrat and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania - is winning his cases in court vs Obama campaign. Berg demanded Obama present proof of his American citizenship and BO failed to respond. Technically Obama has legally "admitted" to the lawsuit's accusations, including charge that the Democratic candidate was born in Mombosa, Kenya.

He was on Michael Savage show for 90 minutes and a recording of interview is up. The site has so much traffic its down. This is no longer something thats going to be ignored.

http://www.obamacrimes.com/

Right... It has nothing to do with...

1. the fact that people think he is the best candidate.
2 the fact that the republican party is imploding from within.
3. the fact that Bush and the rep congress totally screwed up our economy and international standing
4. the fact that McCain's campaign is being run like a joke.

Nope, none of that, its all the liberal media's fault. Waaaa Waaaa. You are such a chicken shit. Stand up and admit reality for once, and call a turd a turd. Regardless of what you think of Obama or liberals in general you have to admit the 4 reasons I gave are all true.

 

[alphatarget1]

The only reason Obama is leading is because of the financial crisis.

 

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
The only reason Obama is leading is because of the financial crisis.

That might hold water except for the fact that he was leading the whole time... From the moment Clinton backed out until now he was up for all but a few days after the Palin bump. That wore off and he went right back to being out in front.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
The only reason Obama is leading is because of the financial crisis.

And because he's run an absolutely retarded campaign.

Heck, if Bush had the energy he had 8 years ago, he'd be doing better.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: cwjerome
Here's my analysis: Bush is totally unpopular and people want fresh change. (but the $$ helps)

Yep, and considering that - he should be WAY ahead in the polls but he isn't. Take either one of the above away and he'd have been toast.

He IS way ahead, if McCain wins this election, it will be one of the biggest upsets in the history of this country.

no he isn't. Some polls show him ahead but others show it really close and tightening. Also, WAY ahead is way into double digits - which he is not.

You're analysis doesn't match virtually all of the non-partisan analysis out there. While we can argue about how far ahead "way ahead" is, Obama's ahead enough to make a McCain victory a very unlikely event.

I never said it wasn't an unlikely event. However, with the tightening in the polls it is possible when according to the political reality as it exists today - he should be way further ahead than he currently is.
I have no idea what you consider "non-partisan analysis" but it'd be interesting to see what you are talking about since what I've been reading is how people can't believe it's this close due to the GWB and $ factor.

There is no data to suggest he should be "way farther ahead", what you're reading is opinion (most likely from Republicans). Which is fine, but poll aggregation sites like electoral-vote.com, electionprojection.com and fivethirtyeight.com (my new favorite) all suggest Obama is going to get at least 330 electoral votes and at least 52% of the popular vote. Fivethirtyeight.com has a very interesting "win percentage" that suggests based on all the data so far, Obama has a 96% chance of being the next President.

Now I'm sure pundits will spin like crazy trying to explain why the vote ends up the way it does, most of whom will be (like you are) trying to turn defeat into a sort of victory or trying to turn a victory into a crushing blow to the other side, but the facts say that Obama is doing pretty well. If you think he should be doing even better (which is EXACTLY the line you guys used in 2004 for Kerry), come up with some data to prove it.

 

[woodie1]

Having 4 times the money to spend along with 8 years of GWB gives BHO a real advantage. Seems the polls should have BHO way out in front instead of only a single digit lead.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: woodie1
Having 4 times the money to spend along with 8 years of GWB gives BHO a real advantage. Seems the polls should have BHO way out in front instead of only a single digit lead.

I hear this line all the time, and I have yet to hear ANYONE come up with an argument supporting this self-serving analysis you people keep coming up with.

 

[Madwand1]

Originally posted by: cyclohexane
It's raises some really good points about why Obama is leading McCain in the polls.

link here

It's a very well-written article, except for the fact that it completely misses the point. This isn't really or just about Obama.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

He's not far ahead?

www.fivethirtyeight.com

Obama is WAY ahead. Do your research.

 

[db]

"Why He's Winning":

http://andrewsullivan.theatlan...0/why-hes-winning.html

Worth watching!

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: db
"Why He's Winning":

http://andrewsullivan.theatlan...0/why-hes-winning.html

Worth watching!

It's remarkable. He really said almost nothing IMO, boilerplate fluff of 'country ahead of party',and yet, he says it in a way that gets people cheering.

And that's part of what we need right now, as long as he has the right policies, is someone who can win the election.

He's doing what's needed. if his speech has fluff, I blame the voters for demanding it.

 

[Ballatician]

HAHAHAHA the media is hiding Biden's gaffes, always blame the media.

Wasn't it CBS that was protecting certain portions of McCain / Palin interviews that were just too embarrassing to show?

 

[First]

Obama's going to be blow him out of the water and we'll get to make fun of the fringe conservatives who currently don't support McCain because he's not conservative enough. Priceless.

 

[db]

How can you lose when Opie is for you?

 

[dennilfloss]

Some people believe he's winning because he uses witchcraft.:roll:

http://www.injesus.com/index.p...4N9G&label=&paging=all

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: db
"Why He's Winning":

http://andrewsullivan.theatlan...0/why-hes-winning.html

Worth watching!

Yup.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: mxyzptlk
Is it just too cynical of me to believe that the reason he is winning is that he has more money to spend on advertising and like the good little consumer drones that they are, Americans are drawn to the flashiest ads?

Dude really, have you seen Palin's interviews?

Have you seen Biden's?? No, because the media is hiding all his stupid ass comments.

Even Dan Rather pointed out the media hypocrisy on that one. Dan Rather!!!!

Shoudln't you be playing the fiddle? :laugh:

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Butterbean
If Obama is winning he is winning because the media is a phalanx that runs interference for him. Not only do the not investigate him and his many many vulnerabilites but they smear anyone who opposes him. Joe the plumber gets reamed for asking a question, Plain get reamed for her wardrobe - but BO has yet to produce a birth certificate. This is about to blow-up because Philip J Berg - a Democrat and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania - is winning his cases in court vs Obama campaign. Berg demanded Obama present proof of his American citizenship and BO failed to respond. Technically Obama has legally "admitted" to the lawsuit's accusations, including charge that the Democratic candidate was born in Mombosa, Kenya.

He was on Michael Savage show for 90 minutes and a recording of interview is up. The site has so much traffic its down. This is no longer something thats going to be ignored.

http://www.obamacrimes.com/

It's a decent argument among the internew "political experts" crowd. Thats about as far as it goes though, and will go.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
The only reason Obama is leading is because of the financial crisis.

So what you mean, is he is winning the presidentialy race because he would be better at handling a financial crisis than McCain?


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