Originally posted by: luvly
"whf does having a 2 door car have to do with anything?"
Maybe it means you're chasing hot chicks or hot looking guys? Essentially, 2 door means you aren't family-oriented, which is contrary to their belief system! Hello?
Can't Jehovah's Witnesses have their belief system and practice it without being mocked or something?
you mean I can't be a middle aged suit having a mid-life crisis? What if I don't want (or can't have) kids or only have 1 kid and a 2 door car suits my needs. what if it's my second or third car that I only take out for joy riding on the weekends?
again what does owning a 2 door car have to do with anything?
are you a JW?
25. You must go from door to door weekly to gain converts
Wouldn't this hurt all of their chances of being one of the lucky 144,000 that will go to heaven?
Wouldn't this hurt all of their chances of being one of the lucky 144,000 that will go to heaven?
Actually, if you want to know why certain beleifs are held too you might be better off asking a former JW than a current JW.
JW's are taught to gloss over all 'bad' sounding teachings, making them sound better then they are. For example, ask a JW about the practice of disfellowshipping, and what that means to a person and that person's family and freinds. Ask them how a person get disfellowshipped, who it is that makes the decision to disfellowship a person, and what a JW is supposed to do if they feel the disfellowshipping is unfair. Ask if at the 'trial' that takes place to disfellowship a person, the defendant is entitled to defend themselves, confront their accusers, or have impartial consel present. Ask why these disfellowshipping meetings are help in secret.
Ask them if once you are baptised as a JW, then decide later that you do not agree with ONE cetain beleif of the JWs, what are the results? I bet they try and talk around the truth - which is you WILL be kicked out (disfellowshipped or disassociated which are really the same result), and that NO JW will ever again speak with you. Not even to say hello. Nor to help you out if you have trouble. This includes family - they are expected to shun you as well. If they say that this is not true, they are flat out lying. Ask them to consult their August 2002 Kingdom Ministry for instructions from the 'faithful and discreet slave' as to how to treat disfellowshipped/disassociated family members (DO NOT TALK TO THEM). This 'Kingdom Ministry' is NOT shared with non-JWs, so you the general public will never see such information until you are well-entrenched in a brainwashing 'bible study'.
As for the beard thing, there is not scriptural biblical reason that any JW can show you. It's mainly IMO a way for JWs to try and appear different from 'the world'. It came about in the 60-70's when the hippie movement was alive, and beards were often associated with that movement. Nowdays, beards are perfectly acceptable in all levels of US society, but as is normal, the JWs remain with their heads up their butts, stuck in the value systems of the men who run the company, who are mostly now all in their 80s or 90s. So to them beards = rebel. Grow a beard and the local church elders will note you as 'weak' and you will not qualify to be used by the JWs. And in the JW world, people marked as 'weak' often find themsleves excluded from many/most social functions as well.
The 2-door car thing is again used by local elders to exert control over people. If you buy a 2-door car, you cannot use it in field service (door knocking) since it is hard to carry 4-6 people in such a car. So it is veiwed as 'weak' to own one. That said, it would be OK to own one, if you also had a 4 door or mini-van, etc you could use in door knocking.
You might note that a central theme in all JW matters is the local elders - they are the ones whose opionions on all sorts of matters from cars you drive, facial hair, music, dress, etc are to be followed. If a elder tells you not to wear a certain item/type of clothing for exmaple, base soley on his persional opionon that it is 'inappropriate' or 'inmodest' and you ignore that - you are marked as weak. So the local elders opinions on things rules the JWs lifes, and trust me, the 'elders' know their power and many of them get off on it.
JW's are taught to gloss over all 'bad' sounding teachings, making them sound better then they are. For example, ask a JW about the practice of disfellowshipping, and what that means to a person and that person's family and freinds. Ask them how a person get disfellowshipped, who it is that makes the decision to disfellowship a person, and what a JW is supposed to do if they feel the disfellowshipping is unfair. Ask if at the 'trial' that takes place to disfellowship a person, the defendant is entitled to defend themselves, confront their accusers, or have impartial consel present. Ask why these disfellowshipping meetings are help in secret.
Ask them if once you are baptised as a JW, then decide later that you do not agree with ONE cetain beleif of the JWs, what are the results? I bet they try and talk around the truth - which is you WILL be kicked out (disfellowshipped or disassociated which are really the same result), and that NO JW will ever again speak with you. Not even to say hello. Nor to help you out if you have trouble. This includes family - they are expected to shun you as well. If they say that this is not true, they are flat out lying. Ask them to consult their August 2002 Kingdom Ministry for instructions from the 'faithful and discreet slave' as to how to treat disfellowshipped/disassociated family members (DO NOT TALK TO THEM). This 'Kingdom Ministry' is NOT shared with non-JWs, so you the general public will never see such information until you are well-entrenched in a brainwashing 'bible study'.
As for the beard thing, there is not scriptural biblical reason that any JW can show you. It's mainly IMO a way for JWs to try and appear different from 'the world'. It came about in the 60-70's when the hippie movement was alive, and beards were often associated with that movement. Nowdays, beards are perfectly acceptable in all levels of US society, but as is normal, the JWs remain with their heads up their butts, stuck in the value systems of the men who run the company, who are mostly now all in their 80s or 90s. So to them beards = rebel. Grow a beard and the local church elders will note you as 'weak' and you will not qualify to be used by the JWs. And in the JW world, people marked as 'weak' often find themsleves excluded from many/most social functions as well.
The 2-door car thing is again used by local elders to exert control over people. If you buy a 2-door car, you cannot use it in field service (door knocking) since it is hard to carry 4-6 people in such a car. So it is veiwed as 'weak' to own one. That said, it would be OK to own one, if you also had a 4 door or mini-van, etc you could use in door knocking.
You might note that a central theme in all JW matters is the local elders - they are the ones whose opionions on all sorts of matters from cars you drive, facial hair, music, dress, etc are to be followed. If a elder tells you not to wear a certain item/type of clothing for exmaple, base soley on his persional opionon that it is 'inappropriate' or 'inmodest' and you ignore that - you are marked as weak. So the local elders opinions on things rules the JWs lifes, and trust me, the 'elders' know their power and many of them get off on it.
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