Why are Whites the dominant race and not Asians?

[Blitzvogel]

My personal theory on this matter lies with the constant and utterly brutal infighting Europe was constatly experiencing. Asia and China had thier internal factions, battles, and periods of war (3 kingdoms period for example), but it was nowhere near the type of constant aggressiveness Europe was fostering. This, during the early eras, lead to weakness. One cant even compare the powerful mongol empire or the glorious chinese dynasties to the tiny, weak, crap europe had at the same time. By the 1600s however, this constant fighting had lead to great advances in technology and weaponry. That lead to the age of colonialism and European dominance (and europe was still hating each other during this period as well.)

Pretty much my assessment. European conflicts drove the need for better war fighting capabilities and stronger economies. This led to innovations in science and technology for the sake of war. The biggest evidence of this was during the imperialism of Africa by European powers to boost their economic power. World technologies were pretty much on the same level more or less up until the European Middle Ages when so much was lost and the European world went to shit.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

China accounted for such a large part of the global GDP due to its enormous size. The scale of the mongol armies and their empire was completely beyond what was in Europe. The advancement in technology that occurred in Europe made up for this disadvantage and allowed the small European countries to spank the hordes of primitives around the world.

 

[mrkun]

China and then later Japan cut themselves off almost completely from the outside world just as Europe was becoming ascendant over the Middle East. India was ruled Mongols who were tribal nomads that knew nothing about civilization.

 

[mrkun]

By the 1600s however, this constant fighting had lead to great advances in technology and weaponry. That lead to the age of colonialism and European dominance (and europe was still hating each other during this period as well.)

This is true, but their technology was easily copied. Japan was the largest firearms manufacturer in the world up until the Tokugawa era at which point they were outlawed because they were a threat to the new monarchy.

 

[yhelothar]

Age of Enlightment

It brought the west out of the dark ages and into the industrial revolution as well as the scientific revolution

 

[Fenixgoon]

In the documentary 'Guns Germs and Steel', the author explains the evolution of White dominance.

summary:
In the beginning, humans were hunter/gatherers.
Then with wheat and domesticated animals, they became farmers.
Beast of burden (horse/oxen) increased productivity of farming (ielow). with more food available, communities grew which allowed people to specialize in skills.
One of these skills was understanding how to work w/fire which lead to smelting of steel.

But only 1 area in the world had these domesticated beasts of burden. It was the ancient middle east. (It's very hard to domesticate elephants/zebra). Unfortunately they over exploited the environment (water/trees).
Communites uprooted and moved to more furtile ground, which was located to the west (Europe) and East (India/china).

THe documentary then concentrated on European supremacy. It explained that since neither the people of the Americas (North and South) nor Sub-Saharan Africa had these beasts of burden. they didnt have many specialists. most of the community was involved in time consuming farming.

the horse/plow freed up many hours for Europeans to experiement with trial and error on various things. One of which lead to steel and eventually guns. because of these tech advantages they conquered most of the world.


But if the settlers of ancient middle east also headed towards India/China with these beasts of burden, then why didnt India/China become a rival for European supremacy?

one reason is that china was so dominant that there was little to cause it to grow technologically.

on the other hand, you had all these different european countries trying to backstab and one-up each other, which caused them to advance technologically very quickly.

i know that was *one* reason, certainly not the only one.

 

[0roo0roo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arhBShGlZjI&feature=related
Civilization: Is the West History - Pt1. (Competition)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD0HYqNeHiM&feature=related
Civilization: Is the West History? - Pt2 (Science)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjmoeIvk42A&feature=related
Civilization: Is the West History - Pt3 (Property)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_x4GPmL9MI&feature=related
Civilization: Is the West History? - Pt4 (Medicine)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBOFDzQhpa0&feature=related
Civilization Is the West History - Pt5 (Consumerism)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TXulAB48Tc&feature=related
Civilization: Is the West History - Pt6 (Work - 1 of 4)

guns germs and steel is a bit too politically correct, some cultures are worse than others.

 

[thecrecarc]

This is true, but their technology was easily copied. Japan was the largest firearms manufacturer in the world up until the Tokugawa era at which point they were outlawed because they were a threat to the new monarchy.

Yes, of course it was easily copied. And the fact it got copied was the reason Japan became a world power so quickly, and was even able to challenge and defeat Russia in the Russo-Japanese war, a huge shock for any European that believed in their own inherent superiority. This not to even mention WWII.

But once again, they were relying on european advances that europeans had first due to their war-laden history. Many other countries/people like the ones in Africa, china, and the new world couldnt or chose not to adopt europe's ways, and got thoroughly crushed.

 

[William Gaatjes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arhBShGlZjI&feature=related
Civilization: Is the West History - Pt1. (Competition)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD0HYqNeHiM&feature=related
Civilization: Is the West History? - Pt2 (Science)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjmoeIvk42A&feature=related
Civilization: Is the West History - Pt3 (Property)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_x4GPmL9MI&feature=related
Civilization: Is the West History? - Pt4 (Medicine)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBOFDzQhpa0&feature=related
Civilization Is the West History - Pt5 (Consumerism)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TXulAB48Tc&feature=related
Civilization: Is the West History - Pt6 (Work - 1 of 4)

guns germs and steel is a bit too politically correct, some cultures are worse than others.

Thank you for posting. It is fun to see history from a different point of view.
I have not seen all, but i plan to do so. :thumbsup:

 

[OCGuy]

Because white people rock.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

http://www.economist.com/node/16834943

India and China alternated for largest GDP before the industrial revolution. Before that, GDP was directly proportional to work force. After the industrial revolution, it was the scientific breakthroughs and productivity increases that were way more important.

edit: that chart is GPD PPP which isn't as accurate to measure exact economic size but its the only one i could find.

 

[shortylickens]

Because white people rock.

We do?
Since when?

 

[yhelothar]

We do?
Since when?

Since always according to Louis C.K. :hmm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY

 

[SP33Demon]

http://www.economist.com/node/16834943

India and China alternated for largest GDP before the industrial revolution. Before that, GDP was directly proportional to work force. After the industrial revolution, it was the scientific breakthroughs and productivity increases that were way more important.

edit: that chart is GPD PPP which isn't as accurate to measure exact economic size but its the only one i could find.

China is getting very close to us. Be very scared.

 

[CPA]

Instead of constantly asking stupid questions, the OP should do a little reading and research on his own. But I'm guessing he would be too stupid to understand and need someone to explain it to him anyways.

um, isn't a process within "research" asking questions of people that may be more knowledgeable than yourself?

 

[BrownShoes]

 

[JS80]

China is getting very close to us. Be very scared.

no

 

[sunzt]

China is getting very close to us. Be very scared.

scared of what exactly?

 

[sigurros81]

The only thing keeping the Asians from taking over the world is the small penis issue.

 

[JTsyo]

I read an interesting article a long time ago that attributed the lack of "domination" at least technically speaking (mostly leading up to and during the industrial revolution) to glass and optics. Basically from what I remember there was a lack of glass and advancement in optics in Asia. So they were delayed in utilizing things like the microscope, which delayed certain types of metallurgy and medical advancements. If I can find I link I will post it later.

ahh the blind tech tree can be hard to master. I like to look at guides to make sure I'm going up the right paths and not dead ends.

I also have to wonder what things like the caste system did to prevent part of the population from contributing the maximum they could to the society.

 

[yhelothar]

The only thing keeping the Asians from taking over the world is the small penis issue.

That's why we need to fear them. Men insecure about their dicks act irrational.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaS2bRGS86c#t=3m25s

 

[SP33Demon]

scared of what exactly?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2010/12/save_date

Dec 16th 2010, 12:31 by P.W. and D.H.

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We invite you to predict when China will overtake America

CHINA jumped ahead of Japan in 2010 to become the world’s second-biggest economy, but when will it grab the number-one slot? The Economist’s interactive chart allows you to make your own predictions. The relative paths of GDP in dollar terms in China and America depend not only on real growth rates but also on inflation and the yuan’s exchange rate against the dollar. Over the past decade real GDP growth averaged 10.5% a year in China and 1.7% in America; inflation averaged 3.8% and 2.2% respectively. Since Beijing scrapped its dollar peg in 2005, the yuan has risen by an annual average of 4.2%. Our best guess for the next decade is that annual real GDP growth averages 7.75% in China and 2.5% in America, inflation rates average 4% and 1.5%, and the yuan appreciates by 3% a year. Plug in these numbers and China will overtake America in 2019. But if China’s real growth rate slows to an annual average of only 5%, then (leaving the other assumptions unchanged) China would become number one in 2022. Please place your own bets.

 

[BrownShoes]

 

[SP33Demon]

Perhaps the most well known implementation of high-speed maglev technology currently operating commercially is the Shanghai Maglev Train, an IOS (initial operating segment) demonstration line of the German-built Transrapid train in Shanghai, China that transports people 30 km (19 mi) to the airport in just 7 minutes 20 seconds, achieving a top speed of 431 km/h (268 mph), averaging 250 km/h (160 mph).

China is crushing us already in mass transit, and things aren't going to change. Our pathetic high speed rail projects top speeds between 2015-2030 are 110, 150, and 220 (California). lmao, what will China's rail hit in 2030? 300mph? 1000mph in a closed vaccuum maglev?

 

[Inspector Jihad]

China is crushing us already in mass transit, and things aren't going to change. Our pathetic high speed rail projects top speeds between 2015-2030 are 110, 150, and 220 (California). lmao, what will China's rail hit in 2030? 300mph? 1000mph in a closed vaccuum maglev?

its not so black and white. some issues with china is their inflated GDP growth due to over-investment in infrastructure and high export economy. china should have slower growth when they do have to rely on organic causes of growth.