Why are Whites the dominant race and not Asians?

JEDI

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In the documentary 'Guns Germs and Steel', the author explains the evolution of White dominance.

summary:
In the beginning, humans were hunter/gatherers.
Then with wheat and domesticated animals, they became farmers.
Beast of burden (horse/oxen) increased productivity of farming (ie:plow). with more food available, communities grew which allowed people to specialize in skills.
One of these skills was understanding how to work w/fire which lead to smelting of steel.

But only 1 area in the world had these domesticated beasts of burden. It was the ancient middle east. (It's very hard to domesticate elephants/zebra). Unfortunately they over exploited the environment (water/trees).
Communites uprooted and moved to more furtile ground, which was located to the west (Europe) and East (India/china).

THe documentary then concentrated on European supremacy. It explained that since neither the people of the Americas (North and South) nor Sub-Saharan Africa had these beasts of burden. they didnt have many specialists. most of the community was involved in time consuming farming.

the horse/plow freed up many hours for Europeans to experiement with trial and error on various things. One of which lead to steel and eventually guns. because of these tech advantages they conquered most of the world.


But if the settlers of ancient middle east also headed towards India/China with these beasts of burden, then why didnt India/China become a rival for European supremacy?
 
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HamburgerBoy

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Because the original Aryans lived approximately where modern day India is now. Everyone knows this (seriously, they do, you make the stupidest fucking threads out of all of ATOT).
 

JEDI

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Because the original Aryans lived approximately where modern day India is now. Everyone knows this (seriously, they do, you make the stupidest fucking threads out of all of ATOT).

god you are sad, little unhappy troll arent you.
get out of your parents basement once in a while, idiot.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Several times in the past the more powerful people(s) moved westwards as conquerers. And brought with them more knowledge. With the Atlantic as 'border' a lot of knowledge and different 'races' gathered in Europe, and therefor those living there could use a lot of that knowledge for further development.
Also Europe had several countries like the Netherlands and England which relied heavily on trading with other countries later on (spreading around and gathering more knowledge and resources) and lots of countries on a relatively small area with lots of wars, which in turn causes a lot of inventions to be made to better kill eachother.
 

gophins72

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because they spent all their time in the UCLA library saying "oh ching chong ling long ting tong"
 

1prophet

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You need to look at history over a long period of time and you will see the rise and fall of many different cultures and people.

The greatest and most feared conqueror who had the largest contiguous empire the world has ever seen was Asian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan
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AyashiKaibutsu

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Because at some point they grew complacent with what they had and convinced themselves they were the greatest that ever could be until Europeans came over and showed them what greatness was. That's for China at least. Japan was too busy fighting themselves and wasn't that great anyway until they decided to westernize. I have limited knowledge of India, but they were always in conflict between Muslims and Hindus if my understanding is correct. Not much time to project power outward.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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China is xenophobic and had no interest whatsoever in expansion beyond it's region. Why would should it be compelled to do what another culture expects?

Likewise India didn't have to assume the stance of dominance. Their concerns were less about the accumulation of stuff than the west, which is an ailment we still suffer from. We think we're better because we work ourselves into the grave to buy more junk from walmart. At least the Europeans take lunches and a great many have some form of siesta built into their day. We point our fingers and laugh at the lazy then live in a way that dumps stress hormones into our system which causes us to get fat, develop hypertension, high cholesterol and diabetes. So were dominant in stupidity. Great.
 

freegeeks

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it all came down to technology and using this technology to make stuff to blow things up. The people who make the best stuff to blow things up and kill other people become dominant
 

Zen0

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Because we are in the year 2011 and that's how history has unfolded.

In any moment of humanity's timeline, different races were "dominant".
 
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different civilizations undergo cycles, the rise in white/european you see today if because the industrial revolution started in europe first. this might be the last such cycle because innovation flows much more quickly and easily in today's age of globalization.
 

mizzou

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This makes me want to go back and play some more EUIII
I am CONVINCED east asia can make headway into invading Europe, if we do it right.
 

Capt Caveman

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Instead of constantly asking stupid questions, the OP should do a little reading and research on his own. But I'm guessing he would be too stupid to understand and need someone to explain it to him anyways.
 

Pliablemoose

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The show isn't over yet, I live in LA, and it appears the Asians are the dominant culture :D

It's a good thing I find Asian women attractive
 

Bateluer

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Typical ATOT response in this thread, arrogance and smug superiority.

OP, East/West power has flipflopped back and forth several times in recorded history. The Chinese invented many of the technologies used by Europeans during the Renaissance, for example, but had lost the technology through wars, etc.
 

SSSnail

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You need to look at history over a long period of time and you will see the rise and fall of many different cultures and people.

The greatest and most feared conqueror who had the largest contiguous empire the world has ever seen was Asian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan
moz-screenshot.png
YuanEmperorAlbumGenghisPortrait.jpg
Wrong, it would be the US of A. AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!!!

There has never been an army on earth that the sun never sets on its presence, until now.
 

Svnla

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Wrong, it would be the US of A. AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!!!

There has never been an army on earth that the sun never sets on its presence, until now.

Before the US, was the British Empire very strong? They had colonies in all continents. Something about the sun never set on British Empire IIRC.
 

SSSnail

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Before the US, was the British Empire very strong? They had colonies in all continents. Something about the sun never set on British Empire IIRC.
Where are they now? That's right. We even have people in both arctics, take that!

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!!!!