wow... just... wow.Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Who the hell is this clown?!
This is a serious question: Did you make it beyond the 6th grade?
Sorry ! GEE GOLLY. NOPE I never said I was as smart as our Bankers and CEOs I hope never to be on that level of brillance. Are doctors lose over 250,000 a patients a year for tiny little mistakes . We cure our cancer VICTOMs thrue radiation that actually speeds up the process . Anyone believe that Vodoo can and or does work if you believe it can .
Tell someone there sick and dieing and they will in many many cases. Our teachers are a joke most flunkies in choozen fields so they teach . Brilliant just Brillant. Our History is a complete lie . (MANS) Religion is an affront to GOD almighty HIGH.
THE masses once strong are sadily weakened . All is winding down. TO enlightenment.
NOT real educated at all in so far as being indoctranated into the family of the sheepos.
Without light there is no darkness. Without ying there is no yang . Without Ignorance there is no genius. I like not being part of the more educated Americans . I couldn't stand myself if I were in smarter . But some can handle the weight of brilliance one such as your self perhaps.
Your reply nearly made me piss myself.
Nemesis 1
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Check that please . Russia has good access to caspian sea reserves . It the USA that wants pipeline threw afgan. Its going to get real touchy like in Georgia. This is the UN pushing us in . Hay well pay for you un members who don't support shit . You guys send in your young men ,
bamacre
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We are still there because the Democrats don't want to look like cowards nor "terrorist lovers."
The fact that Neocons have no complaints with Obama's foreign policy says something.
We've learned absolutely nothing since 9/11. Our response to 9/11 is the government's status-quo response. Cure the symptoms rather than the disease.
The fact that Neocons have no complaints with Obama's foreign policy says something.
We've learned absolutely nothing since 9/11. Our response to 9/11 is the government's status-quo response. Cure the symptoms rather than the disease.
irishScott
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blackangst1
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kylebisme
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Of course they don't, but they are generally good about taking escort over planes that divert from their courses, and particularly those which fly into restricted airspaces. Granted, the official investigations did shed some light on why it didn't work out so well that day.
Seems I've stumbled on a very sensitive repug.
I'll give you a hint. The accuser is in this post.
Or maybe you were just tired. Sometimes we just miss the obvious ... no big deal.
Obama campaigned on increased activity in afghanistan. You're now whining that he kept his campaign promise.
Obama is just continuing strategies set forth during bush's time in office.
You repuggies need to get your story straight so you can mount the usual united, lockstep attack.
My guess is that there are no mirrors in your house.
Lemon law
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Seeming Randon is correct here, GWB only had 25,000 US troops and Nato was pitifully small at some 72,000. Obama tossing in 40,000 extra troops has made the recent ground offensive possible in Afghanistan. And now the the US military has boots on the ground in areas we have not dared to even visit for six years or more.
But still, even after added Troops and McCrystal will likely ask for more, Nato still is some 500,000 troops short of enough. And in terms of the ground offensive, so rumor has, may not extend past the 8/20 Afghan elections. At this point, military causalities are on track to reach the 800/yr that characterized Iraq for the first five years. And in MHO, all Obama has done is changed the type of Mexican standoff we have in Afghanistan, and the greatest US and Nato enemy is not the Taliban or Al-Quida, but the very anarchy they brought along in their wake.
But still, even after added Troops and McCrystal will likely ask for more, Nato still is some 500,000 troops short of enough. And in terms of the ground offensive, so rumor has, may not extend past the 8/20 Afghan elections. At this point, military causalities are on track to reach the 800/yr that characterized Iraq for the first five years. And in MHO, all Obama has done is changed the type of Mexican standoff we have in Afghanistan, and the greatest US and Nato enemy is not the Taliban or Al-Quida, but the very anarchy they brought along in their wake.
blackangst1
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I suppose another way of putting it is there are some who will whine about anything and many just happen to be republicans. This is not to say that all republicans (or close to all) whine.
If it isn't oil, it'll be something else - whatever is in (perceived) short supply. Changing this would be like trying to change the course of a river. The charades that those responsible go through to explain it away is quite amazing, though.
blackangst1
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blackangst1
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Meanwhile, the Obama war machine steams full ahead. But its OK. Its not Iraq.
WASHINGTON, Aug 31 (Reuters) - Many of President Barack Obama's top advisers on Afghanistan agree with military commanders that more troops are needed to reverse Taliban gains in the country's east and south, U.S. officials said on Monday.
Military commanders and administration and congressional leaders have held preliminary discussions about future troop options, including sending a second 5,000-member Marine Regimental Combat Team to southern Afghanistan, a Taliban stronghold, participants said. This would boost the number of Marines in the country to 15,000-18,000 from just over 10,000.
McChrystal has about 103,000 troops under his command, including 63,000 Americans, half of whom arrived this year as part of an escalation strategy started by former President George W. Bush and ramped up under Obama.
Another U.S. official said Obama had not yet prepared the American people for what many top advisers see as an inevitable need to increase the number of troops in Afghanistan.
A rapid deterioration in the war in the east has taken U.S. officials by surprise. In April, a senior commander said NATO forces were close to achieving "irreversible momentum" there.
"If these elements succeed, President Obama will be as much a failed wartime president as George W. Bush," he wrote in Monday's Washington Post, saying such an approach would condemn the United States to "certain defeat."
WASHINGTON, Aug 31 (Reuters) - Many of President Barack Obama's top advisers on Afghanistan agree with military commanders that more troops are needed to reverse Taliban gains in the country's east and south, U.S. officials said on Monday.
Military commanders and administration and congressional leaders have held preliminary discussions about future troop options, including sending a second 5,000-member Marine Regimental Combat Team to southern Afghanistan, a Taliban stronghold, participants said. This would boost the number of Marines in the country to 15,000-18,000 from just over 10,000.
McChrystal has about 103,000 troops under his command, including 63,000 Americans, half of whom arrived this year as part of an escalation strategy started by former President George W. Bush and ramped up under Obama.
Another U.S. official said Obama had not yet prepared the American people for what many top advisers see as an inevitable need to increase the number of troops in Afghanistan.
A rapid deterioration in the war in the east has taken U.S. officials by surprise. In April, a senior commander said NATO forces were close to achieving "irreversible momentum" there.
"If these elements succeed, President Obama will be as much a failed wartime president as George W. Bush," he wrote in Monday's Washington Post, saying such an approach would condemn the United States to "certain defeat."
You do understand how people can support one war and not another, right? Like for example we could support one war to stabilize a country that was a breeding ground for a movement that killed 3,000 people, and not support a ridiculous invasion of a country based upon false pretenses.
Call me crazy, but I swear some people do this.
blackangst1
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May I recommend an immediate massive transfer or 4 brigades from Kuwait and Iraq to Afghanistan? I say this with no specific knowledge of the rotation and what force we can adequately bring to the fight.
Iraq deployment =128k by the end of the year. Instead of rotating folks into Iraq they need to head east.
I'd ask Iran for a flight corridor. Tell them we want to get out as much as they want us out. It's less than 1,500 miles from Baghdad to Kandahar. Air mobile, baby. It's well past time to invoke The Powell Doctrine on the Taliban and AQ.
Take the fight to 'em this Fall before bad weather sets in. Take it to 'em in the snow, and take it to 'em in the Spring. Drive those suckers into the mountains and across the border. Patrol the border by air and blow the sheet outa anything that comes within 50 'clicks'.
Tell Afghanistan they have 3 years to stand on their own. Draw down troops levels to 30k in Afghanistan and Iraq by 2013.
And save $1.3 trillion over the next 10 years.
Iraq deployment =128k by the end of the year. Instead of rotating folks into Iraq they need to head east.
I'd ask Iran for a flight corridor. Tell them we want to get out as much as they want us out. It's less than 1,500 miles from Baghdad to Kandahar. Air mobile, baby. It's well past time to invoke The Powell Doctrine on the Taliban and AQ.
Take the fight to 'em this Fall before bad weather sets in. Take it to 'em in the snow, and take it to 'em in the Spring. Drive those suckers into the mountains and across the border. Patrol the border by air and blow the sheet outa anything that comes within 50 'clicks'.
Tell Afghanistan they have 3 years to stand on their own. Draw down troops levels to 30k in Afghanistan and Iraq by 2013.
And save $1.3 trillion over the next 10 years.
George Will has had enough of the charade
When conservative columnists decide that we have lost our way, it is time to look at our options.
When conservative columnists decide that we have lost our way, it is time to look at our options.
Lemon law
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The other thing to mention about Afghanistan, is that its fairly resource poor unlike Iraq that had all that lovely oil. But still Afghanistan is very strategically situated as a possible pipeline route, and we are partly there to promote US pipeline interests, and partly there to step on other countries pipeline interests.
Iran wants to build a natural gas pipeline to serve the energy markets in India, and such a pipeline would first have to go through Afghanistan and then Pakistan. Quite unfeasible now as long as Afghanistan is in a state of near anarchy and is a terrorist dreamland.
Iran wants to build a natural gas pipeline to serve the energy markets in India, and such a pipeline would first have to go through Afghanistan and then Pakistan. Quite unfeasible now as long as Afghanistan is in a state of near anarchy and is a terrorist dreamland.
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