Why are we still chasing nazi war criminals?

[cabri]

Bull crap.

How is a wound supposed to heal if we keep picking at it?

What happened in world war II was a terrible thing. Why weren't these people brought to justice 60 - 70 years ago?

Why wait a lifetime to bring them to justice?

Obvious answer - they were not found and/or identified

 

[BurnItDwn]

If we stopped chasing nazi war criminals they would be able to live their life in relative peace.

We keep chasing those fucking bastards down and they have to live in hiding until they die, unless we find them, then they can live in captivity.

Thats better than they deserve.

 

[Jaskalas]

It is an immoral crime to pursue these old men.

It's not like you talking about a volunteer military like you have today. WW2 were conscripts who were either drafted or killed. The only reason they are alive is because they obeyed their master. The individual merits of each guard is lost with time. All you're attempting is collective punishment.

Men like Johann Breyer should be left alone.

 

[Remobz]

It is an immoral crime to pursue these old men.

It's not like you talking about a volunteer military like you have today. WW2 were conscripts who were either drafted or killed. The only reason they are alive is because they obeyed their master. The individual merits of each guard is lost with time. All you're attempting is collective punishment.

Men like Johann Breyer should be left alone.

You expect us to cry over a damn German soldier fighting/working on behalf of the Nazis? WTF?

I could care less!

 

[brycejones]

It is an immoral crime to pursue these old men.

It's not like you talking about a volunteer military like you have today. WW2 were conscripts who were either drafted or killed. The only reason they are alive is because they obeyed their master. The individual merits of each guard is lost with time. All you're attempting is collective punishment.

Men like Johann Breyer should be left alone.

SS units were volunteers and it isn't immoral to track down these assholes no matter how much time has passed.

 

[Jaskalas]

You expect us to cry over a damn German soldier fighting/working on behalf of the Nazis? WTF?

I could care less!

Why don't you go pick the wings off a fly?

 

[Accord99]

Actually the Soviet Union got it worse than anybody. 25 Million+ dead. If anyone had a reason to want to wipe Germans off the face of the earth, it was the Soviets.

I don't disagree with you there and agree that the Axis powers were much worse.

 

[Jaskalas]

SS units were volunteers and it isn't immoral to track down these assholes no matter how much time has passed.

Does one really volunteer for a military that is sweeping an entire continent?
My mistake is noted, but my principle does not stand on that.

I oppose this collective punishment sadistic people wish to extoll on the elderly. These folks are a generation beyond senior. They have no capacity to harm society.

I am more concerned for those wanting their pound of flesh. When we're done exterminating the last of these ancient Nazis, who shall our wrath turn against next?

 

[BurnItDwn]

It is an immoral crime to pursue these old men.

It's not like you talking about a volunteer military like you have today. WW2 were conscripts who were either drafted or killed. The only reason they are alive is because they obeyed their master. The individual merits of each guard is lost with time. All you're attempting is collective punishment.

Men like Johann Breyer should be left alone.

There is no pursuit of normal German soldiers (Wehrmacht.)
The vast majority of German soldiers were not treated as or pursued as war criminals.

The war criminals are essentially all SS guys. They are card carrying Nazis who partook in extermination and rape on a grand scale.

Now, this Johann Brever claims "I'm Innocent, I didn't work at the camp where we killed people, I worked at the other one where we had them alive as slaves!"

If there's enough evidence to bring him to trial, then he should be given a trial, and, a jury should decide if it's worth convicting him. Then, a judge can sentence him if need be. Yes, it sucks at the age of almost 90 to be dealing with this crap, But, better late than never.

 

[cabri]

Does one really volunteer for a military that is sweeping an entire continent?
My mistake is noted, but my principle does not stand on that.

I oppose this collective punishment sadistic people wish to extoll on the elderly. These folks are a generation beyond senior. They have no capacity to harm society.

I am more concerned for those wanting their pound of flesh. When we're done exterminating the last of these ancient Nazis, who shall our wrath turn against next?

There was a major difference between Wehrmacht and the SS. One was regular army, drafted or volunteers. Regular soldiers.

SS were a macho, egotistical, bully group that exuded power, and terror. Private hit squad

If people think that they can run and hide from their actions and all will be forgotten/forgiven as they age; then what stops the current and future crops from acting similar?

At what age cutoff do you say all is forgiven; come back into our open arms?

 

[Orignal Earl]

I am more concerned for those wanting their pound of flesh. When we're done exterminating the last of these ancient Nazis, who shall our wrath turn against next?

Nebor has the same ideology as the Nazis
He's a silver spooner who volunteered for the US Army, went off to kill as many Muslims as he could
They had him making sure the wifi was up and running instead, and he spent his time issuing his fatwas from the battlefield against some of us here, and giving us daily updates on how miserable he was there
He says the US Army shares his beliefs and promotes it in their recommended reading list

Nobody says boo when he says it though

 

[Zaap]

It is an immoral crime to pursue these old men.

Oh please.

There is no pass granted on participating in mass murder, or a statute of limitations, nor should there ever be. It's absurd to send the message that future regimes can commit similar crimes, then skip out to South America or wherever and so long as you can manage to hide out for enough years, you'll escape punishment because *sniffle* its immoral to punish old men. Aww, boo hoo.

I for one am glad justice isn't as pussified as that.

Its actually frigtenly sad the large percentage of top Nazis that escaped any kind of justice what-so-ever. Its a great world shame in fact. Saddest of all is how much of the world was willing to look the other way and harbor them. Almost no country is innocent of that, sadly. To the day every last one of these vermin dies (SS members, Nazi officials and those part of forced labor and death camps) they should be hunted to the ends of the earth.

 

[waggy]

sorry i find it hard to give sympathy to Nazi SS members. The nazi's killed millions of jews, gypsies, disabled etc.

I don't care much that the are 90ish.

 

[Sonikku]

I've seen enough movies to wonder why anybody would ever want to be a Nazi.

 

[Jaskalas]

Oh please.

There is no pass granted on participating in mass murder, or a statute of limitations, nor should there ever be. It's absurd to send the message that future regimes can commit similar crimes, then skip out to South America or wherever and so long as you can manage to hide out for enough years, you'll escape punishment because *sniffle* its immoral to punish old men. Aww, boo hoo.

I for one am glad justice isn't as pussified as that.

Pussified for what, not pissing in the wind? These men are dead or dying. They've already "skipped". They've already lived their lives. It's over. Only message you're sending is we're a bunch of immature primates thumping our chests for vengeance.

Do you think you're protecting anyone? He has committed no crimes since the war. Far as we know he has lived a good and honest life since then. He's at the end of his life. He is no threat to society. Any action against him is not to protect others, but is instead born out of blood lust.

Go feed some hungry children on the street. Before you spend time and money on a trial and legal proceedings just so you can imprison a man whose final act will be some very expensive medical bills.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I've seen enough movies to wonder why anybody would ever want to be a Nazi.

In the end they all just want the same thing
A good man to take care of them, and give them a good spanking before bedtime every night

edit- spanking as in spanking, not sex

 

[Zaap]

Pussified for what, not pissing in the wind? These men are dead or dying. They've already "skipped". They've already lived their lives. It's over. Only message you're sending is we're a bunch of immature primates thumping our chests for vengeance.

Do you think you're protecting anyone? He has committed no crimes since the war. Far as we know he has lived a good and honest life since then. He's at the end of his life. He is no threat to society. Any action against him is not to protect others, but is instead born out of blood lust.

Go feed some hungry children on the street. Before you spend time and money on a trial and legal proceedings just so you can imprison a man whose final act will be some very expensive medical bills.

Who exactly is "he?" You don't even seem to understand the issue, let alone the larger picture. Like I said, justice as pussified as you want it to be would be no justice at all, just a free invitation to future regimes to commit similar attrocities and know that pussies won't have the guts to ever hold anyone accountable for it, that you can just hide out and run oit the clock. No thanks. The world you wish for will be far more brutal, not less.

 

[BUTCH1]

Have you ever been around someone who is reaching their end of life? Maybe has alzheimers and does not even recognize their own children? The person being brought to trial is not the same person who committed the acts.

Part of justice is punishing the person who committed the crime. Why punish someone who may only live a few more years, or even a few more months?

Not only that but once you incarcerate someone you are responsible for all their medical care, that could add up quickly in an 87 year old, they have to face death soon with the thought that if there is a judgement day they will burn in hell..

 

[Orignal Earl]

Who exactly is "he?" You don't even seem to understand the issue, let alone the larger picture. Like I said, justice as pussified as you want it to be would be no justice at all, just a free invitation to future regimes to commit similar attrocities and know that pussies won't have the guts to ever hold anyone accountable for it, that you can just hide out and run oit the clock. No thanks. The world you wish for will be far more brutal, not less.

Some very wise words that should never be forgotten

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

Whenever we see examples of this happening again we need to speak out

 

[frowertr]

I am more concerned for those wanting their pound of flesh. When we're done exterminating the last of these ancient Nazis, who shall our wrath turn against next?

Well, we can turn our "wrath" on others who also broke the law.

You make justice sound like a witch hunt. So, at what age do you draw the line in the sand where you wouldn't pursue criminals? 50? 60? 70? No matter the crime at what point do you say, "Ah screw it, it has been too long and they are too old"?

I sure hope you are never in position to make and/or enforce laws. Yikes!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Some very wise words that should never be forgotten
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

Whenever we see examples of this happening again we need to speak out

Then they came for the Jews

So ironic, these are the people that came for the Jews and did evil things to them but now you feel the need to speak for them. These people are also being given a fair trial.

 

[Orignal Earl]

So ironic, these are the people that came for the Jews and did evil things to them but now you feel the need to speak for them. These people are also being given a fair trial.

I feel the need to speak for the Nazi's?
I was kind of kidding about the good man thing

 

[feralkid]

Have you ever been around someone who is reaching their end of life? Maybe has alzheimers and does not even recognize their own children? The person being brought to trial is not the same person who committed the acts.

Part of justice is punishing the person who committed the crime. Why punish someone who may only live a few more years, or even a few more months?

Don't forget to remind everyone here how you feel that Adolf Hitler wasn't so bad...he just went "a little too far".

I can't believe you keep posting your insane nonsense for all the world to see.

You need to find a better hobby.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Don't forget to remind everyone here how you feel that Adolf Hitler wasn't so bad...he just went "a little too far".

I can't believe you keep posting your insane nonsense for all the world to see.

You need to find a better hobby.

I think it's a good thing they post
It reminds people that lot's of these guys still think this way, and are right here posting among us
The more they type the more the more they show who they are really are and how they really think
Lot's of people don't even realize what they are doing
Of course a message board is the worst place to try and break the cycle
But you work with what you got

 

[shira]

Pussified for what, not pissing in the wind? These men are dead or dying. They've already "skipped". They've already lived their lives. It's over. Only message you're sending is we're a bunch of immature primates thumping our chests for vengeance.

Do you think you're protecting anyone? He has committed no crimes since the war. Far as we know he has lived a good and honest life since then. He's at the end of his life. He is no threat to society. Any action against him is not to protect others, but is instead born out of blood lust.

Go feed some hungry children on the street. Before you spend time and money on a trial and legal proceedings just so you can imprison a man whose final act will be some very expensive medical bills.

So an obvious corollary to your belief is that when a person is sentenced to "life without parole," they should be let out of jail at the age of 75 or 80. Is that what you believe? And if not, why don't you explain to us the difference between - on the one hand - continuing to keep in prison an old man who committed heinous crimes but who already has spend several decades in prison and has "lived his life" and - on the other hand - pursuing a fugitive old man for past heinous crimes?