Why are we still chasing nazi war criminals?

[fskimospy]

This idiot has to be the king of "negative attention is still attention"

 

[OCGuy]

Sadly there will be people who actually respond to another TH troll, this time equating Afghanistan/Pakistan to the holocaust.

Enjoy the next 50 posts of idiocy.

 

[rommelrommel]

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[mrjminer]

See my post about the guards at these camps. They voluntarily joined the SS and were true believers.

Didn't know that. The part you mention about what happened to them if they grew a conscience is what I would consider the factor to weigh against their actions at the camps.

The whole thing was just so fucked up, I couldn't necessarily hold people responsible just for being indoctrinated into Nazi-ism since I couldn't imagine them having many alternatives to choose from. Pretty tough calls to make at any turn: repugnant actions or certain death. That's why I think the only thing that they should be judged on is their actions beyond their orders. Even though those actions would have likely been the result of their forced indoctrination, I don't know of any other middle-ground that would still allow for accountability while not punishing those that just did what they had to do to for their own survival.

Really difficult job for a court on these cases; everything can be attributed to their society, but at what point does the individual become responsible for the society? I think that's the question the courts have to answer in these cases. I wouldn't want to be on the jury, that's for sure.

 

[silicon]

There is an article on the daily caller talking about software being developed to identify and convict nazi war criminals.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/07/h...d-to-identify-and-convict-nazi-war-criminals/

Why are nazi war crimes still an issue? Most of those people are in their 90s. What good does it do to put a 90 year old person on trial?

If this was the 1950s, 1960 maybe even the 1980s, sure, hunt them down.

Victory in Europe was on this day, May 8, 1945. Here are 69 years later and still picking at wounds from three generations back?

From the recent people I saw brought before a court, they were prison guards. What were they supposed to do, disobey orders? I dont see any of our drone operators being kicked out of the Army for refusing orders.

What the nazis did was wrong, but there is no justice in bringing someone who may not even remember what happened 60 - 69 years ago to trial.

Why doesn't society just let those old nazis fade into history where they belong.

because society still want their pound of flesh from them. The nazi's were bad, very very bad.

 

[Texashiker]

I am thinking I should simply stop while I am behind. Hard to argue against such illogic.

What is there to argue? The world needs a scapegoat for what happened during WW II.

20 years from now are we going to be deporting our citizens to Vietnam?

40 years from now will we be deporting or citizens to Pakistan and Afghanistan?

When it is happening to someone else most people do not care. When it happens to you, then all of a sudden you care.

 

[Thebobo]

What is there to argue? The world needs a scapegoat for what happened during WW II.

20 years from now are we going to be deporting our citizens to Vietnam?

40 years from now will we be deporting or citizens to Pakistan and Afghanistan?

When it is happening to someone else most people do not care. When it happens to you, then all of a sudden you care.

Seriously your chickens are hungry, go feed them.

 

[rommelrommel]

Didn't know that. The part you mention about what happened to them if they grew a conscience is what I would consider the factor to weigh against their actions at the camps.

The whole thing was just so fucked up, I couldn't necessarily hold people responsible just for being indoctrinated into Nazi-ism since I couldn't imagine them having many alternatives to choose from. Pretty tough calls to make at any turn: repugnant actions or certain death. That's why I think the only thing that they should be judged on is their actions beyond their orders. Even though those actions would have likely been the result of their forced indoctrination, I don't know of any other middle-ground that would still allow for accountability while not punishing those that just did what they had to do to for their own survival.

Really difficult job for a court on these cases; everything can be attributed to their society, but at what point does the individual become responsible for the society? I think that's the question the courts have to answer in these cases. I wouldn't want to be on the jury, that's for sure.

You're really charitible.

 

[dphantom]

What is there to argue? The world needs a scapegoat for what happened during WW II.

"the practice of singling out any party for unmerited negative treatment or blame as a scapegoat"

fascinating you think the Nazis don't deserve the treatment they are receiving.

 

[z1ggy]

Sadly there will be people who actually respond to another TH troll, this time equating Afghanistan/Pakistan to the holocaust.

Enjoy the next 50 posts of idiocy.

The amazing thing is, he keeps making threads even though time after time 95% of people on here prove him wrong or can logically refute his arguements. Then he tries to draw two non related things (in this case mass genocide vs stopping terrorism) to try and support his claims and opinions.

Repeatings one actions expecting different results each time... Didn't a certain person in American history once define that as the definition of insanity?

 

[werepossum]

What alternative did they have? Follow orders or be killed for being a Jew sympathizer? Nothing like blaming people under extreme duress for following orders. Do you also blame the guards at the US detainment camps during the war for following their orders? Or would you rather have had them disobey orders during a time of war to satisfy their morality? Not even without the threat of death / being tossed into some gas chambers themselves did you see US soldiers "doing the right thing."

That being said, I don't see a problem investigating them for things they did beyond their orders. I do, however, think it's pretty difficult to differentiate the things they did for self-preservation vs. the things they did because they were true believers, but that's what the court is for.

Well said.

Nobody has mentioned that some of these guys or their estates may have profited from plundered goods. Stolen art, gold, valuable's they are liable for this.

Excellent point.

So you would have no problem with our drone operators being sent to Pakistan and put on trial for murdering innocent civilians?

What about our troops who served in Vietnam? Are you willing to deport your dad or uncle?

I am pretty sure a lot of stuff happened in Vietnam we do not know about.

We actually do prosecute our war criminals - just as we're helping Germany do with theirs.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

So much derp and so little time.

 

[OCGuy]

The amazing thing is, he keeps making threads even though time after time 95% of people on here prove him wrong or can logically refute his arguements. Then he tries to draw two non related things (in this case mass genocide vs stopping terrorism) to try and support his claims and opinions.

I don't crap on his threads because he is ignorant and/or a troll, really. I just like to point out that they are generally anti-gay or now Nazi-sympathizing, with completely asinine logic behind it to support the opinions.

Unless, of course, one believes that the two recent threads he has started were meant to discuss a homework assignment about questioning history books, and the pros and cons of extradition treaties in the 21st Century. :/

I can't think of a reason this Stormfront drivel is allowed.

 

[nageov3t]

thank God someone is out there defending the rights of Nazis.

 

[PottedMeat]

Sadly there will be people who actually respond to another TH troll, this time equating Afghanistan/Pakistan to the holocaust.

Enjoy the next 50 posts of idiocy.

what do you think he's doing while reading the responses? jerking off? jerking off while fantasizing about gay porn?

 

[Texashiker]

Seriously your chickens are hungry, go feed them.

They had food this morning. I know because I checked on them before going to work.


As for this thread, there is an old saying "let sleeping dogs lay." Or is it let sleeping dogs lie.

Every time one of those old codgers are mentioned in the news society is bringing up old wounds that need to heal.

I do not see parading some old person around on TV as justice. Let the wounds heal. Let the past stay in the past.

If bringing these people to justice is so important, it should have been done 60 - 70 years ago.

 

[Texashiker]

Sadly there will be people who actually respond to another TH troll,

Bull crap.

How is a wound supposed to heal if we keep picking at it?

What happened in world war II was a terrible thing. Why weren't these people brought to justice 60 - 70 years ago?

Why wait a lifetime to bring them to justice?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Hmmm could it be they were hiding and just now located???

 

[StinkyPinky]

I'm with the OP. It seems a complete waste to arrest men in their mid 90s. Most of whom were very low ranking prison guards etc. These guys weren't likely even aware what was going on there until they started working there since the death camps weren't common knowledge IIRC.

 

[piasabird]

I don't care how long ago this was. They skinned people alive and stole all their property. They deserve to die a thousand deaths. The Nazi's were all murderers and Thieves. They worked prisoners of war to death and put them in Ovens to get rid of them. They all deserve to die by firing squad. Never forget the truth.

 

[piasabird]

After World War II, I am surprised we did not Genocide both the Japanese and Germans. They sure deserved it. They are responsible for killing Millions of Innocent People.

 

[Victorian Gray]

After World War II, I am surprised we did not Genocide both the Japanese and Germans. They sure deserved it. They are responsible for killing Millions of Innocent People.

So, you're surprised that at the end of the war the Allies did not act exactly like the Axis forces and commit genocide?

Ok...

 

[MasterOfUsers]

After World War II, I am surprised we did not Genocide both the Japanese and Germans. They sure deserved it. They are responsible for killing Millions of Innocent People.

A Mormon twit begging for a genocide... how ... uncommon?

I see Brighams spirit is alive and well in you.

 

[Accord99]

After World War II, I am surprised we did not Genocide both the Japanese and Germans. They sure deserved it. They are responsible for killing Millions of Innocent People.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Germans_after_World_War_II

Japan had also something similar from its colonial possessions in Manchuria, Korea and Taiwan. World War II was an incredibly brutal war on all sides, though of course the Axis powers were much worse than the Allies.

 

[frowertr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Germans_after_World_War_II

Japan had also something similar from its colonial possessions in Manchuria, Korea and Taiwan. World War II was an incredibly brutal war on all sides, though of course the Axis powers were much worse than the Allies.

Actually the Soviet Union got it worse than anybody. 25 Million+ dead. If anyone had a reason to want to wipe Germans off the face of the earth, it was the Soviets. We talk about the atrocities that were committed against the Jews but it doesn't even compare with the Soviets that were slaughtered when the Germans were marching toward Stalingrad.