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aplefka

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Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
where did you find an 85 mph speed limit?

Out here in the Mojave Desert there are a couple of places where you see signs that say:
"End 75" and thats it. Not any other signs telling you what speed you CAN drive at.

in PA anyway there's a law such that if you see an "end XX" sign, the limit automatically becomes the standard state limit of 55. Is there no such law out there?

I doubt they care a whole lot in the Mojave Desert.
 

jfall

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Originally posted by: Rebasxer
If car makers had to make cars that could only go 55 or 65, than the whole sport car market would die, along with the SUV market ( why by the V8 when the 6 will do the same ) although not to such a great extent because of towing and what not. Bottom line is that the Auto Lobby >>>>> Any one bitching because someone was killed by a speeding car.


Money talks
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: Rebasxer
If car makers had to make cars that could only go 55 or 65, than the whole sport car market would die, along with the SUV market ( why by the V8 when the 6 will do the same ) although not to such a great extent because of towing and what not. Bottom line is that the Auto Lobby >>>>> Any one bitching because someone was killed by a speeding car.

In the utility market, V8's and v10's are for towing/hauling.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

to justify your virginity? :confused:
 

Rebasxer

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: Rebasxer
If car makers had to make cars that could only go 55 or 65, than the whole sport car market would die, along with the SUV market ( why by the V8 when the 6 will do the same ) although not to such a great extent because of towing and what not. Bottom line is that the Auto Lobby >>>>> Any one bitching because someone was killed by a speeding car.

In the utility market, V8's and v10's are for towing/hauling.

Yes but how many people that have the big v8 in their explorer have actually ever towed anything, I'd guess its under 50%, as a lot people that drive SUV's are soccer moms and/or working men who don't have boats/jetski's to tow around. A lot of it is just power
 

AntaresVI

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Or use so much gas???

again, it's stupid to legislate when the market and demand can regulate. If there's a big enough demand, slower/more efficient cars will be produced. See the rise of Japanese manufacturers after the 70's oil crisis.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: dug777
It's actually quite an important safety aspect to have a decent top end (ever had a moment of overtaking crisis that you only got out of by speeding, say half way down the side of a 40m roadtrain?)

And don't so that you shouldn't have been overtaking, we all know this happens fairly regularly to most people who drive on roads that aren't 4 lanes plus (like 99% or raods in Australia for example)...

i'm bumping my comment FTW :p
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Or use so much gas???

again, it's stupid to legislate when the market and demand can regulate. If there's a big enough demand, slower/more efficient cars will be produced. See the rise of Japanese manufacturers after the 70's oil crisis.[/q]

What crisis? If it was a crisis how come there is still oil???
 

Goosemaster

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Because the torque curve never reaches peak efficiency at the high end.

A better question is not why they make them faster, but why they don't limit them
 

AntaresVI

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Or use so much gas???

again, it's stupid to legislate when the market and demand can regulate. If there's a big enough demand, slower/more efficient cars will be produced. See the rise of Japanese manufacturers after the 70's oil crisis.[/q]

What crisis? If it was a crisis how come there is still oil???

Way to stay on-topic. We don't need your P&N trash here. If you really need a reference, check here
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Because the torque curve never reaches peak efficiency at the high end.

A better question is not why they make them faster, but why they don't limit them

:confused: what does that have to do with the price of tea in china, or indeed this thread?
 

klah

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Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Why don't you just move to the UK?

GPS tech to rein in UK's speeding motorists
Plans are underway to use a satellite-based system to stop motorists from speeding following the conclusion of government-backed trials of the technology in Leeds. The speed limiting technology works by applying brakes or cutting out the accelerator in modified cars whenever a driver tries to exceed to limit for a particular stretch of road.

You'll also have the added benefit of 50,000 government cameras to watch your every move and make sure you don't get a booboo.

 

jfall

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Originally posted by: klah
Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Why don't you just move to the UK?

GPS tech to rein in UK's speeding motorists
Plans are underway to use a satellite-based system to stop motorists from speeding following the conclusion of government-backed trials of the technology in Leeds. The speed limiting technology works by applying brakes or cutting out the accelerator in modified cars whenever a driver tries to exceed to limit for a particular stretch of road.


You'll also have the added benefit of 50,000 government cameras to watch your every move and make sure you don't get a booboo.


Damn, that's hardcore

 

Codegen

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Well, around here the speed limit is 100kph. The cops will let you do 120 (and if they're really nice 130).

 
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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: dug777
It's actually quite an important safety aspect to have a decent top end (ever had a moment of overtaking crisis that you only got out of by speeding, say half way down the side of a 40m roadtrain?)

And don't so that you shouldn't have been overtaking, we all know this happens fairly regularly to most people who drive on roads that aren't 4 lanes plus (like 99% or raods in Australia for example)...

i'm bumping my comment FTW :p


I agree with your comment as being an important part of why cars are allowed to go 100+
 

glugglug

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And the UK is already getting rid of that kind of crap, why? Because they've already found a strong positive correlation between the # of speed catching cameras added and increased fatality rates.

The whole idea of slow=safe is a myth propagated by our corrupt government as an excuse to levy a tax on speed. If vehicles weren't able to exceed the limit, they wouldn't be able to collect that tax. The limits are all kept stupidly low for taxation purposes.

Also, as stated above, a more powerful engine capable of going well above the limit is needed so that you will have decent pickup and be able to overtake people safely. Or go up a hill.
 

flot

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Why do they put 100 car parking lots at bars? Do they expect 100 designated drivers to show up?