why are vehicles made that can exceed the speed limit?

jfall

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I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?
 

Nebor

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Because cars are made in countries where laws may vary from other countries. They can even vary state to state.
 

aplefka

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Remember that tiny little road in Germany? You may not have heard of it or anything, but cars routinely travel in excess of 85 MPH.

And even if domestic automakers did this, how could they market to say Canada or whatever other country interested in our cars?
 

AntaresVI

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Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Why is this something that should be legislated? Make the (current) law, allow cars to be produced however the manufacturer wants to produce them, and if the owner breaks the law, they suffer the consequences. If the market on the whole wants speed-limited cars, then manufacturers will make them. Since there is no demand for such a thing, there is no production of such a thing (although in reality many cars are in fact limited, but not to the extent that you suggest). Let the market decide, not some nanny state.

edit: clarification
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Why is this something that should be legislated? Make the law, allow cars to be produced however the manufacturer wants to produce them, and if the owner breaks the law, they suffer the consequences. If the market on the whole wants speed-limited cars, then manufacturers will make them. Since there is no demand for such a thing, there is no production of such a thing (although in reality many cars are in fact limited, but not to the extent that you suggest). Let the market decide, not some nanny state.

Don't pretty much all cars made in the last like 15 years have governors (sp?)?
 

OS

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car manufacturers don't and shouldn't play the role of policeman. You can kill or injure yourself/others with a knife, rope or even a pool but they don't build idiot guards into them.
 

Bozono

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Many cars have governers that limit top speed(180km or so).
EDIT - already stated- plus, can't you do whatever speed you want to in Montana?
 

jfall

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I'm not saying it should happen, that would honestly suck. But with all the accidents and dumb drivers these days I'm surprised that something like this hasn't happened
 

AntaresVI

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Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Why is this something that should be legislated? Make the law, allow cars to be produced however the manufacturer wants to produce them, and if the owner breaks the law, they suffer the consequences. If the market on the whole wants speed-limited cars, then manufacturers will make them. Since there is no demand for such a thing, there is no production of such a thing (although in reality many cars are in fact limited, but not to the extent that you suggest). Let the market decide, not some nanny state.

Don't pretty much all cars made in the last like 15 years have governors (sp?)?

yes, but my point there was to say that none of those cars were limited because of legality issues, as the OP proposes
 

jfall

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Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Why is this something that should be legislated? Make the law, allow cars to be produced however the manufacturer wants to produce them, and if the owner breaks the law, they suffer the consequences. If the market on the whole wants speed-limited cars, then manufacturers will make them. Since there is no demand for such a thing, there is no production of such a thing (although in reality many cars are in fact limited, but not to the extent that you suggest). Let the market decide, not some nanny state.

Don't pretty much all cars made in the last like 15 years have governors (sp?)?

yes, but my point there was to say that none of those cars were limited because of legality issues, as the OP proposes


What other reasons are there for governers?

Is there any place in all of America that has a speed limit over 100?
 

AntaresVI

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Originally posted by: jfall
Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Why is this something that should be legislated? Make the law, allow cars to be produced however the manufacturer wants to produce them, and if the owner breaks the law, they suffer the consequences. If the market on the whole wants speed-limited cars, then manufacturers will make them. Since there is no demand for such a thing, there is no production of such a thing (although in reality many cars are in fact limited, but not to the extent that you suggest). Let the market decide, not some nanny state.

Don't pretty much all cars made in the last like 15 years have governors (sp?)?

yes, but my point there was to say that none of those cars were limited because of legality issues, as the OP proposes


What other reasons are there for governers?

safety. After a certain point cars can either go too fast for their tires or exceed aerodynamic safety limits. It still boils down to the manufacturer not installing it to conform to an artificial speed limit.
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
where did you find an 85 mph speed limit?

Out here in the Mojave Desert there are a couple of places where you see signs that say:
"End 75" and thats it. Not any other signs telling you what speed you CAN drive at.
 

Howard

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Unavoidable speed limiting is a form of black & white justice (which I can't understand). Should a few teenagers' speed addictions be curtailed while a man loses his daughter to blood loss on the way to the hospital?
 

AntaresVI

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
where did you find an 85 mph speed limit?

Out here in the Mojave Desert there are a couple of places where you see signs that say:
"End 75" and thats it. Not any other signs telling you what speed you CAN drive at.

in PA anyway there's a law such that if you see an "end XX" sign, the limit automatically becomes the standard state limit of 55. Is there no such law out there?
 

dug777

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It's actually quite an important safety aspect to have a decent top end (ever had a moment of overtaking crisis that you only got out of by speeding, say half way down the side of a 40m roadtrain?)

And don't so that you shouldn't have been overtaking, we all know this happens fairly regularly to most people who drive on roads that aren't 4 lanes plus (like 99% or raods in Australia for example)...
 

aplefka

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Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: jfall
Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Originally posted by: jfall
I rarely ever see any place that the allowable speed limit is over 85. If speeding is such a concern, why are auto makers allowed to produce vehicles which can knowingly be used to break the law?

Why is this something that should be legislated? Make the law, allow cars to be produced however the manufacturer wants to produce them, and if the owner breaks the law, they suffer the consequences. If the market on the whole wants speed-limited cars, then manufacturers will make them. Since there is no demand for such a thing, there is no production of such a thing (although in reality many cars are in fact limited, but not to the extent that you suggest). Let the market decide, not some nanny state.

Don't pretty much all cars made in the last like 15 years have governors (sp?)?

yes, but my point there was to say that none of those cars were limited because of legality issues, as the OP proposes


What other reasons are there for governers?

safety. After a certain point cars can either go too fast for their tires or exceed aerodynamic safety limits. It still boils down to the manufacturer not installing it to conform to an artificial speed limit.

Hmm... I wonder how one could find this limit without having to figure it out the hard way? Not that I know of anyone who tampered with the governer or the restricter plate (2 pts for naming the reference) in their car.
 

Rebasxer

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If car makers had to make cars that could only go 55 or 65, than the whole sport car market would die, along with the SUV market ( why by the V8 when the 6 will do the same ) although not to such a great extent because of towing and what not. Bottom line is that the Auto Lobby >>>>> Any one bitching because someone was killed by a speeding car.