The Democratic platform has alienated the mainstream public by swinging to extreme leftwinged groups. And truly they'll continue to abort themselves out of existence.
You mean not conforming the the Bible Thumpers and huge Corporate interests.
No thanks, you can keep it.
If that is what the Country wants permanently then it can go down in flames along with you and your ilk. Good riddence.
We'll soon find out.
No, I mean pushing for a socialist society the way you do, to spread your misery across the country, away from the free market roots that have made us the world's largest economy.
Exactly my point. The only people who can raise money are people who will support policies that are contrary to the best interests of the American people. It is why people don't vote. There is nothing to vote for but sh!t. Money insures that the only people running are pro money regardless of party. There is no escape from this tragedy for the American people but suicide so we are on that path. Fewer and fewer patriots will vote and leave the choice to the loons who will institute laws that will kill us as a nation just as we see happening now right before our very, sadly, mostly blind eyes. You care more about your wallets than you do about kids so they will do unto you just the same.
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Instead of criticizing those in power; why not propose solutions to the problems you see.
You say everyone is blind and has no sense of reality; yet you have absolutely no vision or suggestions. As for the wallet before kids comment...I seriously disagree...most parents work hard to provide for their kids and think the world of them; for you to assume people think their wallets are paramount shows your twisted view of today's society.
"WTF is the "far left" here in the US? There isn't one unless you look to marginalized groups. "
I am sure from your perspective that Moveon.org is centrist and mainstream as well.....
or better yet, "nonpartisan"........
I me me mine kids or kids in general? But if you are as blind as I say then what do you know.
And I did tell you the solution,,,,,self destruction of the nation will bring a new point of view. But you probably wanted a solution that would comfort your sleep.
Conservatives are better organized. I remember after 9/11, the democrats seemed fairly disorganized, no agenda, no leadership to look to. Then they got their butts kicked. The last presidential elections you saw their lack of leadership stand out with Kerry making mistakes that spiralled out of control.
Republicans are much better, and I would assume have much less moral qualms, about performing the 'dirty tricks' required in today's politicks.
Starbuck1975
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These issues resonate with a fairly sizeable portion of our society, enough to win elections...the far left is lacking similar issues that has a passionate enough voter base...if you look to Clinton's success as a President, it was because he was a Democrat that attracted moderates and even some who traditionally vote Republican. Where are you guys going to place the blame once your Rove boogey man is gone and out of the game?
A fairly bold accusation, but one that lacks any credibility...that, and vote manipulation existed well before the introduction of e-voting...the Democrats certainly don't have clean hands when it comes to manipulation of voting results...I agree that our society demands accountability when it comes to our vote tabulation system, but unfortunately, I don't see either party really making a case for such accountability...because both exploit the weaknesses in our system.
This is really the source of Democrat woes in the last 10 years...our society will simply never embrace a far left platform, and both Kerry and Gore ran poor campaigns against Bush, who should have been a fairly easy target despite the energized voter base on the far right.
Ultimately, the answer is that Repubs have done a better job marketing themselves than the Dems.
This includes things like convincing people that moderate Dems are way out to the left. That Repubs have moral values lacking in Dems. That Repubs believe in personal responsibility and that Dems do not. That Repubs have your liberty at heart and that Dems want to legislate personal behavior.
This includes things like convincing people that moderate Dems are way out to the left. That Repubs have moral values lacking in Dems. That Repubs believe in personal responsibility and that Dems do not. That Repubs have your liberty at heart and that Dems want to legislate personal behavior.
sandorski
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Originally posted by: Stunt
See i find Canada to be far left from the outset
Canada's extreme left is identical to the US's extreme left and the same with the right. Unfortunately Canada is far more pro-government than the US is.
National childcare program...*hack*
True, but the US's far Left is a barely seen fringe and is certainly not descriptive of the Democrats.
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