Why are technical message boards overwhelmingly liberal?

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: brandonb

Originally posted by: jonks

So over 80+ years the most brilliant minds on the planet put forth a scientific theory based on observable evidence in our universe and yet, you, YOU!, are able to pick it apart from your couch. Did you ever stop and think for just a minute that maybe there's something wrong with your position, and not, oh, every scientist in the world? Maybe, just maybe, you don't quite understand exactly what you are relegating to the realm of bullshit.

Yep. I am able to pick it apart from my couch. What else do you want me to pick apart? Carbon dating? I can do that too. I can pick apart most things... Thats how people gain wisdom. Observe, question, and refine, with an open mind and use their critical thinking. I've been observing big bang and all these other theories for quite some time, 15 years or so. And they can't even answer the most basic questions. But people ignore those most basic questions and just continue down the road ignoring previous hurdles like they are on a mission, a misguided mission. To me, thats not progress. They need to go back to the first hurdle and jump over it, and then continue. Otherwise no matter how many theories, or dimensions or anything else they pull from their ass won't mean a damn thing.

But we can agree to disagree. There is no point discussing more.

No, you really can't pick apart the theory. I invite you to try though. While it is certainly not airtight, I would love for you to put forth your best efforts to disprove it and if possible provide an alternative explanation.

In addition, please do that for carbon dating too. I can't wait until you start linking to answersingenesis.com.

Like how you link/quote to/from politico and factcheck.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: eskimospy

No, you really can't pick apart the theory. I invite you to try though. While it is certainly not airtight, I would love for you to put forth your best efforts to disprove it and if possible provide an alternative explanation.

In addition, please do that for carbon dating too. I can't wait until you start linking to answersingenesis.com.

Like how you link/quote to/from politico and factcheck.

Are you seriously attempting to compare factcheck.org to answersingenesis.com? Are you retarded?

Factcheck.org is a universally respected website specifically made to cut through the BS from candidates and their surrogates. Answersingenesis.com is a creationist website that is a laughingstock. Now try to figure out why linking to one might be okay and not the other.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: manowar821
I think a more appropriate question would be:

"Why are technical message boards overwhelmingly less full of propaganda guzzling retards?"

Answer: "They aren't."

 

[db]

I remember when AT Politics was so conservative (and angry) that most people were afraid to say anything contrary.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: db
I remember when AT Politics was so conservative (and angry) that most people were afraid to say anything contrary.

And since then it's been liberal and angry so that most people are afraid to say anything contrary.

The beards all grew longer overnight.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Factcheck.org is a universally respected website specifically made to cut through the BS from candidates and their surrogates. Answersingenesis.com is a creationist website that is a laughingstock. Now try to figure out why linking to one might be okay and not the other.

Universally respected by you, but not by others with a mind of their own and something we call common sense. Next you'll be using moveon.org as your source, oh that's right you already do.

Go re-read your own posts in this thread, or has google failed you? Remember, just because you read it on the intarweb doesn't make it true.

Bwahahahahahahahahahhahahaha!!!!!
http://www.factcheck.org/about/

 

[Tab]

:roll:

We are a nonpartisan, nonprofit, "consumer advocate" for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics. We monitor the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews, and news releases. Our goal is to apply the best practices of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge and understanding.

The Annenberg Political Fact Check is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania. The APPC was established by publisher and philanthropist Walter Annenberg in 1994 to create a community of scholars within the University of Pennsylvania that would address public policy issues at the local, state, and federal levels.

The APPC accepts NO funding from business corporations, labor unions, political parties, lobbying organizations or individuals. It is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.

By the way, the information posted by Moveon.org is often from Academic and Peer Reviewed Journals, but I'm sure this is just liberal propaganda.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Factcheck.org is a universally respected website specifically made to cut through the BS from candidates and their surrogates. Answersingenesis.com is a creationist website that is a laughingstock. Now try to figure out why linking to one might be okay and not the other.

Universally respected by you, but not by others with a mind of their own and something we call common sense. Next you'll be using moveon.org as your source, oh that's right you already do.

Go re-read your own posts in this thread, or has google failed you? Remember, just because you read it on the intarweb doesn't make it true.

Bwahahahahahahahahahhahahaha!!!!!
http://www.factcheck.org/about/

So what's the problem exactly?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: jman19

So what's the problem exactly?

That all of the credentials of this site are liberal douchebags and don't know what a haircut or a shave is.

If you can't laugh at these people something is wrong with you. What's even more sad is people use this trash as a source.

"dude, like, fox is so wrong."
"yeah man, like, what?, hey people believe what is on the internet and think it's fact"
"yeah man, let's do that"

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Deeko
I've found that many conservatives are basically assholes about their views, they 'know' they are right, and you are clearly stupid and a lesser person than them for not agreeing with them. Not to say there aren't liberals like that too, but it seems a higher percentage of conservatives are.

Funny, because you ARE one of those liberals. You're right up there with Craig, Dave, techs, BOBDN, Harvey, Moonbeam and the myriad of "liberal" posters who think everyone who agrees with them is a genius and everyone who doesn't is a fool.

Meh, I wouldn't put Moonie in that list.

I wouldn't have either until recently. I used to think he was fairly insightful and found it interesting to read his posts. Lately he's taken to directly attacking libertarians because they're not voting for Obama.

I attacked voting libertarian at a critical time in our history, not libertarians or their philosophy, no? How much evidence would it take to for you to see that your statement, "who think everyone who agrees with them is a genius and everyone who doesn't is a fool." sums you up too, no? I was just great till I stepped on your sacred cow.
I said libertarians are wasting a vote. Are you sure your angry with me or with reality?

 

[Budmantom]

More liberals are out of work so they are here to vent their frustrations.

 

[db]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

And since then it's been liberal and angry

Wrong. You weren't here, so why would you say "since then it's been liberal and angry...."?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Factcheck.org is a universally respected website specifically made to cut through the BS from candidates and their surrogates. Answersingenesis.com is a creationist website that is a laughingstock. Now try to figure out why linking to one might be okay and not the other.

Universally respected by you, but not by others with a mind of their own and something we call common sense. Next you'll be using moveon.org as your source, oh that's right you already do.

Go re-read your own posts in this thread, or has google failed you? Remember, just because you read it on the intarweb doesn't make it true.

Bwahahahahahahahahahhahahaha!!!!!
http://www.factcheck.org/about/

Oh do I? Please link a post where I have used moveon.org as a source to prove a point. I'll be waiting.

I know that you are immune to reason. If you've got a way to show that factcheck.org is somehow not a reputable source, I encourage you to post it here. I'm glad you posted in this thread though, I'm sure you're frothing cheeto stained spittle at your monitor as you're typing all this stuff. Moreover out of the last 5 people on this site that didn't think you were a moron after all the other stupid things you've posted at least a few of them should have changed their mind after reading you in this thread.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: db
I remember when AT Politics was so conservative (and angry) that most people were afraid to say anything contrary.

And since then it's been liberal and angry so that most people are afraid to say anything contrary.

The beards all grew longer overnight.

I've been posting here since P&N was first opened shortly after 9/11, and there has never been a time when either liberals or conservatives, righties or lefties were afraid to post here.
The 'liberal side' of this forum has gone pretty moderate the last year or so, what with the real leftists like steeplerot and others being either banned or gone.

In the meantime, some extreme far right wingnuts have suddenly popped out of the woodwork this election year, like Butterbean, Socio, and...

Originally posted by: Budmantom
More liberals are out of work so they are here to vent their frustrations.

Yes, which explains why you just started posting here in P&N just 2 months ago. Before then, almost all your posts were in The Garage or FSFT, and you had never posted in P&N except for a couple of posts in threads in early 07 and one in late 03.

Yes, the search function does work... barely.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: db
I remember when AT Politics was so conservative (and angry) that most people were afraid to say anything contrary.

And since then it's been liberal and angry so that most people are afraid to say anything contrary.

The beards all grew longer overnight.

I've been posting here since P&N was first opened shortly after 9/11, and there has never been a time when either liberals or conservatives, righties or lefties were afraid to post here.
The 'liberal side' of this forum has gone pretty moderate the last year or so, what with the real leftists like steeplerot and others being either banned or gone.

In the meantime, some extreme far right wingnuts have suddenly popped out of the woodwork this election year, like Butterbean, Socio, and...

Originally posted by: Budmantom
More liberals are out of work so they are here to vent their frustrations.

Yes, which explains why you just started posting here in P&N just 2 months ago. Before then, almost all your posts were in The Garage or FSFT, and you had never posted in P&N except for a couple of posts in threads in early 07 and one in late 03.

Yes, the search function does work... barely.

You are good.... but I'm employed, are you having any luck?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Budmantom
You are good.... but I'm employed, are you having any luck?

Funny, I didn't see any break in your posts, just where you posted them.


edit: and FYI, this is a 'technical' message board, remember? I'm a long-time member of the large Posting from Work crew here.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Genx87
I think if you look at most boards they break down the same way. Liberals tend to have a bigger mouth and are happy to use it. Rarely do you see conservatives out pissing and moaning about things like a liberal. We tend to piss and moan in private and damn the world!

Another possibility is that "liberal beliefs" correlate better with actual truth, and bright, well-educated people (such as those who frequent technical forums) are better equipped to ascertain actual truth (and therefore tend to be more liberal) than less-bright, less-well-educated people (who naturally gravitate toward conservatism).

Something that demonstrates that those on the right are indeed less bright on average than those on the left is this insistence (by the right) that news reportage has a liberal slant.. That's the right's conclusiion presumably because of the prevalence of left-sounding statements (as compared with right-sounding statements) in the media. But of course the gross flaw in this claim of bias is that it assumes that left-wing views are NOT inherently more correct than right-wing views.

There's a simple term for that kind of illogic: circular reasoning. But what can one expect from right-wing brains?

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: Genx87
I think if you look at most boards they break down the same way. Liberals tend to have a bigger mouth and are happy to use it. Rarely do you see conservatives out pissing and moaning about things like a liberal. We tend to piss and moan in private and damn the world!

Another possibility is that "liberal beliefs" correlate better with actual truth, and bright, well-educated people (such as those who frequent technical forums) are better equipped to ascertain actual truth (and therefore tend to be more liberal) than less-bright, less-well-educated people (who naturally gravitate toward conservatism).

Something that demonstrates that those on the right are indeed less bright on average than those on the left is this insistence (by the right) that news reportage has a liberal slant.. That's the right's conclusiion presumably because of the prevalence of left-sounding statements (as compared with right-sounding statements) in the media. But of course the gross flaw in this claim of bias is that it assumes that left-wing views are NOT inherently more correct than right-wing views.

There's a simple term for that kind of illogic: circular reasoning. But what can one expect from right-wing brains?

I find it hard to believe that a person can write up a few paragraphs of total BS.

Based on years of message board viewing and activity, I find most liberal posters and boards are due to the college/john stewart types. Couple that with Dems/Liberal minded people are far more active in voicing their views, mostly strong and over the top, it's no surprise to me. I actually listen to "Progressive Radio" for entertainment, and it's absolutely hilarious how hateful and unintelligent every host is. Am I saying Conservative Radio is always truthful? Hell no, but they aren't as hateful at least.

Your assertion that more educated people lean left due to knowing what's right is absolutely ridiculous. It seems to be narrowed down to mostly the technical field. While I am not personally a PHD or MD recipient, I have worked with and around MD's, PHD's, and health care professionals for many years and I have not once got the impression that they are left leaning....whereas almost every tech field person I've run across is very much left leaning, and very vocal about it. I have yet to work with or meet a Repub/Conservative who brings up politics out of nowhere, and I have yet to work anywhere in which a Liberal/Dem does not bring up politics out of nowhere.

 

[idiotekniQues]

most conservatives have such a warped view of what a liberal and a moderate is, they have no clue wtf is going on.

they have skewed the center to the right so far it went up their collective asses.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: manowar821
I think a more appropriate question would be:

"Why are technical message boards overwhelmingly less full of propaganda guzzling retards?"

Very accurate.

I've been very satisfied that I dumped cable tv last year - including the infomercial channels masquerading as news channels. When I see it occasionally at friend's houses, it looks like I haven't missed a beat of the fox news drivel as a result of some of the postings here.

 

[ch33kym0use]

coz then if it was too conservative they would say nothing really useful, so it would be boring and I yawns

 

[JD50]

Holy crap, and people wonder why liberals have a reputation of being elitists. Just look at people like Shira, attitudes like that give the more moderate, sane liberals a bad name. Very similar to how butters and socio give conservatives a bad name.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: JD50
Holy crap, and people wonder why liberals have a reputation of being elitists. Just look at people like Shira, attitudes like that give the more moderate, sane liberals a bad name. Very similar to how butters and socio give conservatives a bad name.

But ya know it all seems to balance out in the end. I wonder how many of the over-the-top posters are really like their personas IRL.. I am betting many of them amplify when posting here.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: JD50
Holy crap, and people wonder why liberals have a reputation of being elitists. Just look at people like Shira, attitudes like that give the more moderate, sane liberals a bad name. Very similar to how butters and socio give conservatives a bad name.

But ya know it all seems to balance out in the end. I wonder how many of the over-the-top posters are really like their personas IRL.. I am betting many of them amplify when posting here.

Yea, most likely, I'm sure we all have at times. But there's posters like Nebor, who are obviously just trolling (and IMO he's pretty funny about it), and then there's posters like Craig, Butters, etc... who really do believe every word they type.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: loki8481
afaik, the demographics on AT tend to skew relatively young and coastal.

also, being conservative on P&N requires a pretty thick skin to survive the onslaught from a dozen people after posting anything that goes against the norm.

Let's not forget the history of this board where conservative members found them self being banned for stupid stuff left and right.

I don't want to get in trouble, but look at the seniors MODs and their political leanings and think about it.

I will say that things have gotten much better since Derik took over.