Why are technical message boards overwhelmingly liberal?

[Vic]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: db

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

And since then it's been liberal and angry

Wrong. You weren't here, so why would you say "since then it's been liberal and angry...."?

I wasn't signed up as a member and posting. That doesn't mean I wasn't here. One would think a smart guy like you could figure that out.

btw, this thread, and the responses contained within, are a PERFECT example of the elitism, arrogance, and "I'm right and everyone else can STFU" attitude of liberals today. What a demonstration by our resident liberal crew.

:golfclap;

It was a stupid thread to begin with. Quit being such an ass. Really. I'll say it again, there are stupid posters on both sides here, and there is nothing more un-conservative than to see conservatives playing the victim card. But for some reason that never stops the 'resident conservative crew' here from doing it.

:golfclap; to you

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Vic
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I've been posting here since P&N was first opened shortly after 9/11, and there has never been a time when either liberals or conservatives, righties or lefties were afraid to post here.

I must disagree. I personally know people (conservatives) who have been afraid to post here.

And again, many conservatives don't post here here for the very reasons many of the replies here demonstrate (mindless & stupid insult-type remarks - See excellent example below).

Edit:

Originally posted by: shira
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Another possibility is that "liberal beliefs" correlate better with actual truth, and bright, well-educated people (such as those who frequent technical forums) are better equipped to ascertain actual truth (and therefore tend to be more liberal) than less-bright, less-well-educated people (who naturally gravitate toward conservatism).

Something that demonstrates that those on the right are indeed less bright on average than those on the left is this insistence (by the right) that news reportage has a liberal slant.. That's the right's conclusiion presumably because of the prevalence of left-sounding statements (as compared with right-sounding statements) in the media. But of course the gross flaw in this claim of bias is that it assumes that left-wing views are NOT inherently more correct than right-wing views.

There's a simple term for that kind of illogic: circular reasoning. But what can one expect from right-wing brains?

Fern

Please, dont tell me that it limited to the liberal posters. Hell I have seen you make those kind of comments.

 

[soccerballtux]

because most of them are on welfare and have nothing better to do that surf the internet.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: Fern
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Please, dont tell me that it limited to the liberal posters. Hell I have seen you make those kind of comments.

I'm calling you on that, link up or shut up.

Fern

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
because most of them are on welfare and have nothing better to do that surf the internet.

I rest my case, Fern.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: db

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

And since then it's been liberal and angry

Wrong. You weren't here, so why would you say "since then it's been liberal and angry...."?

I wasn't signed up as a member and posting. That doesn't mean I wasn't here. One would think a smart guy like you could figure that out.

btw, this thread, and the responses contained within, are a PERFECT example of the elitism, arrogance, and "I'm right and everyone else can STFU" attitude of liberals today. What a demonstration by our resident liberal crew.

:golfclap;

It was a stupid thread to begin with. Quit being such an ass. Really. I'll say it again, there are stupid posters on both sides here, and there is nothing more un-conservative than to see conservatives playing the victim card. But for some reason that never stops the 'resident conservative crew' here from doing it.

:golfclap; to you

I've explained it numerous times, and I've explained why as well, but it just doesn't seem to sink in. I'm no conservative (other than a fiscal conservative). Being a hawk on Iraq does not make me conservative. For some reason, some of the "highly educated" people on this forum can't quite grasp that though.

Nor is it "playing the victim card." It's plainly evident that the liberal majority in P&N, and they ARE a majority, just love to dogpile those they target as conservative. Apparently they believe their numbers in here imbue them with an instant sense of correctness and righteousness. So it's not playing anything. It's merely stating the facts of the matter. If you feel a need to ridicule that fact by attaching a nasty label to it, a common lowbrow tactic from liberals today, help yourself. Doesn't surprise me one bit.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: eskimospy
I would say that in general people on technical message boards tend to be more educated than the average. The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be liberal. (cue the "HURF BLURF LIBRUL COLLEGES!") Regardless of what you want to say about why, it's a fact.

A fact you say? Looks to me like the least educated among voters cast votes for the liberal candidate. Even the post grads voted for Bush within 11 points of the liberal candidate while the rest of the "educated" majority also voted for Bush .

My experience is that stupid people come to these tech forums becuase they don't know what they are doing most of the time and need help trying to figure out how to fix what they fucked up. Hence the liberal slant to their biases.

This is a pretty ridiculous thread, and I was going to just stay out...but I just had to respond to this post. Seriously, are you some kind of moron?

The very link you posted says that folks with no college degree voted for Bush 53% to 47% for Kerry, while college graduates voted 49% for each. It's also worth noting that Bush's largest percentage gain (from 2000) by far was among people with no high school diploma, and he only gained 1% total among people who had at least a 4 year degree. Your analysis only makes sense if you don't understand (or ignore) the percentages of the population that make up each education bracket. You give exaggerated importance to the "no high school" diploma group, which only makes up 4% of the population and only voted for Kerry by 1% over Bush, while you ignore the postgraduate group, which at 16% makes up 4 times the population of the least educated group and went to Kerry by 11%.

Also, what that survey doesn't show is what kind of degree the college graduates had. Not all college degrees are created equal, I'd be interested to see the political breakdown among people who got real degrees that require intelligence and critical thinking skills like engineering, science and math. I might be wrong, but I have a feeling that the Bush voters were more likely to major in Frat Boy than anything that makes someone what I would consider "educated".

Even though I'm supposedly a "moron" and you appear to be literate, your critical reasoning skills are surely lacking. Lets review the claim once again: "The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be liberal.......Regardless of what you want to say about why, it's a fact."

That link generally refutes that "fact" quite plainly....as the results from no HS diploma to college graduate show a majority of votes trending from the liberal candidate to the (alleged) conservative candidate as the education level increases. The only point at which someone with "more" education does not have a clear preference for the (alleged) conservative candidate is at the post graduate level. I gave no exaggeration, nor did I ignore *any* in that poll as you claim I did.

The last paragraph of your reply is quite an exposé on the bigotry of the typical liberal elite.

 

[BMW540I6speed]

Meh, Everyone, except for the extreme's, have some "liberal" and "consevitive" views to some extent. I'm afraid, though, that our political discourse has been so dumbed down by our incessant "left" and "right" name calling that the damage done to our collective minds won't be undone for quit some time. People just don't get it.

The meaning of the two words have been so bastardized that the true historical meanings of the words are out the window. Both are engaged in cynical, manipulative totalitarian junk.

I will say this about history. Conservatives have been on the losing end of history for so long they have an inherent inferiority complex. Even when they have held power for the last decade, they still aren't satisfied. I believe it's because they know that any Conservative gains have historically been temporary. The Liberal agenda, for the most part, marches on throughout history, not without setbacks, mind you, while the Conservative agenda has always fades out over time in the long run.

Conservatives are now so aware of this that they are attempting to spuriously redefine past Conservative thought to distance themselves. Conservative pundits (such Limbaugh and Jonah Goldberg ; his book "Liberal Facism") have been redefining certain aspects of Fascism, which is already notoriously difficult to define by ignoring the historical context and, apparently, the words of Fascist leaders as well. It's an easy trick. You could probably make Jesus look like a Fascist as well. Didn't Jesus allow gentiles and Jews into the same religion if they wanted. It's an emphasis on "unity" just like Hitler and Barack Obama.

This type of "word play" has driven me away from the Republican party, the party that these type of pundits normaly inhabit.

I think the big problem with the left vs. right dichotomy which completely dominates political discourse is that it presents an oversimple view of political, economic, and moral structures which describes all positions as beads on some kind linear string. If it were up to me, I would banish the words "left" and "right" from such discourse altogether.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: eskimospy
I would say that in general people on technical message boards tend to be more educated than the average. The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be liberal. (cue the "HURF BLURF LIBRUL COLLEGES!") Regardless of what you want to say about why, it's a fact.

A fact you say? Looks to me like the least educated among voters cast votes for the liberal candidate. Even the post grads voted for Bush within 11 points of the liberal candidate while the rest of the "educated" majority also voted for Bush .

My experience is that stupid people come to these tech forums becuase they don't know what they are doing most of the time and need help trying to figure out how to fix what they fucked up. Hence the liberal slant to their biases.

This is a pretty ridiculous thread, and I was going to just stay out...but I just had to respond to this post. Seriously, are you some kind of moron?

The very link you posted says that folks with no college degree voted for Bush 53% to 47% for Kerry, while college graduates voted 49% for each. It's also worth noting that Bush's largest percentage gain (from 2000) by far was among people with no high school diploma, and he only gained 1% total among people who had at least a 4 year degree. Your analysis only makes sense if you don't understand (or ignore) the percentages of the population that make up each education bracket. You give exaggerated importance to the "no high school" diploma group, which only makes up 4% of the population and only voted for Kerry by 1% over Bush, while you ignore the postgraduate group, which at 16% makes up 4 times the population of the least educated group and went to Kerry by 11%.

Also, what that survey doesn't show is what kind of degree the college graduates had. Not all college degrees are created equal, I'd be interested to see the political breakdown among people who got real degrees that require intelligence and critical thinking skills like engineering, science and math. I might be wrong, but I have a feeling that the Bush voters were more likely to major in Frat Boy than anything that makes someone what I would consider "educated".

Even though I'm supposedly a "moron" and you appear to be literate, your critical reasoning skills are surely lacking. Lets review the claim once again: "The more educated you are, the more likely you are to be liberal.......Regardless of what you want to say about why, it's a fact."

That link generally refutes that "fact" quite plainly....as the results from no HS diploma to college graduate show a majority of votes trending from the liberal candidate to the (alleged) conservative candidate as the education level increases. The only point at which someone with "more" education does not have a clear preference for the (alleged) conservative candidate is at the post graduate level. I gave no exaggeration, nor did I ignore *any* in that poll as you claim I did.

The last paragraph of your reply is quite an exposé on the bigotry of the typical liberal elite.

Why don't you look up studies on educational attainment and political ideology?

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
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Why don't you look up studies on educational attainment and political ideology?

Why would that be necessary; the poll is quite clear.

BTW: If the study uses such numbers as we see in the poll and ends spinning to some other conclusion I'll be LOL'ing (but I won't be surprised)

Fern

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: Fern
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Please, dont tell me that it limited to the liberal posters. Hell I have seen you make those kind of comments.

I'm calling you on that, link up or shut up.

Fern

Too lazy and I dont need to.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: eskimospy
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Why don't you look up studies on educational attainment and political ideology?

Why would that be necessary; the poll is quite clear.

BTW: If the study uses such numbers as we see in the poll and ends spinning to some other conclusion I'll be LOL'ing (but I won't be surprised)

Fern

The poll is clear that on average the more educated you are the more likely you are to vote for liberal candidates.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: jman19

So what's the problem exactly?

That all of the credentials of this site are liberal douchebags and don't know what a haircut or a shave is.

Please bold all of the "liberal douchebag" credentials you're seeing on factcheck.org. I don't see any at all.

Of course, the fact that their haircuts and/or shaves don't meet your approval is a good debating point. Congratulations.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
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Also, what that survey doesn't show is what kind of degree the college graduates had. Not all college degrees are created equal, I'd be interested to see the political breakdown among people who got real degrees that require intelligence and critical thinking skills like engineering, science and math. I might be wrong, but I have a feeling that the Bush voters were more likely to major in Frat Boy than anything that makes someone what I would consider "educated".

Meh, I think it's quite the opposite.

My degrees are accounting & finance and I am conservative., The CPA PACs donations are skewed to the right.

Journalists OTOH are skewed to left from what I find on google.

IDK about profession's PAC (although I know quite a few engineers and they are conservative. I also know many lawyers, they are split between the two though)

Fern

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: eskimospy
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Why don't you look up studies on educational attainment and political ideology?

Why would that be necessary; the poll is quite clear.

BTW: If the study uses such numbers as we see in the poll and ends spinning to some other conclusion I'll be LOL'ing (but I won't be surprised)

Fern

The poll is clear that on average the more educated you are the more likely you are to vote for liberal candidates.

Keep saying stuff like that, it really helps the dems chances.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: eskimospy
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Why don't you look up studies on educational attainment and political ideology?

Why would that be necessary; the poll is quite clear.

BTW: If the study uses such numbers as we see in the poll and ends spinning to some other conclusion I'll be LOL'ing (but I won't be surprised)

Fern

The poll is clear that on average the more educated you are the more likely you are to vote for liberal candidates.

Hahaha

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: eskimospy
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Why don't you look up studies on educational attainment and political ideology?

Why would that be necessary; the poll is quite clear.

BTW: If the study uses such numbers as we see in the poll and ends spinning to some other conclusion I'll be LOL'ing (but I won't be surprised)

Fern

The poll is clear that on average the more educated you are the more likely you are to vote for liberal candidates.

Hahaha

I can totally see why your signature is so fitting.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: eskimospy
-snip-
Why don't you look up studies on educational attainment and political ideology?

Why would that be necessary; the poll is quite clear.

BTW: If the study uses such numbers as we see in the poll and ends spinning to some other conclusion I'll be LOL'ing (but I won't be surprised)

Fern

Oh, you won't be surprised? Save your contempt for science for somewhere else man.

The studies aren't based on CNN's poll on voting for GWB or John Kerry in 2004, they are based upon self identified ideological affiliation (liberal/conservative) and how it relates to educational attainment. If this board should teach people anything its that everyone here claims to be voting for someone even though they don't share their ideology.

What's funny is that you guys in one breath complain about how colleges are indoctrinating people with liberal ideology, and then in the next claim that there's no difference. Which one is it?

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: eskimospy
-snip-
Why don't you look up studies on educational attainment and political ideology?

Why would that be necessary; the poll is quite clear.

BTW: If the study uses such numbers as we see in the poll and ends spinning to some other conclusion I'll be LOL'ing (but I won't be surprised)

Fern

Oh, you won't be surprised? Save your contempt for science for somewhere else man.

The studies aren't based on CNN's poll on voting for GWB or John Kerry in 2004, they are based upon self identified ideological affiliation (liberal/conservative) and how it relates to educational attainment. If this board should teach people anything its that everyone here claims to be voting for someone even though they don't share their ideology.

What's funny is that you guys in one breath complain about how colleges are indoctrinating people with liberal ideology, and then in the next claim that there's no difference. Which one is it?

What the poll doesn't show is that post-grads have a larger population percentage than the rest.

Case in point, the more educated you are the more likely you are to vote for a liberal candidate or vote democrat in era.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Tab


What the poll doesn't show is that post-grads have a larger population percentage than the rest.

Oh, please do post evidence of that claim!

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Tab


What the poll doesn't show is that post-grads have a larger population percentage than the rest.

Oh, please do post evidence of that claim!

Education Attainment in the United States

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: Fern
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Please, dont tell me that it limited to the liberal posters. Hell I have seen you make those kind of comments.

I'm calling you on that, link up or shut up.

Fern

Too lazy and I dont need to.

Lulz, typical.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Tab


What the poll doesn't show is that post-grads have a larger population percentage than the rest.

Oh, please do post evidence of that claim!

Education Attainment in the United States

LOL, I'm pretty sure you didn't even look at the information present on that linked web page as it certainly doesn't show that "post-grads have a larger population percentage than the rest". Not even close.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Tab


What the poll doesn't show is that post-grads have a larger population percentage than the rest.

Oh, please do post evidence of that claim!

Education Attainment in the United States

LOL, I'm pretty sure you didn't even look at the information present on that linked web page as it certainly doesn't show that "post-grads have a larger population percentage than the rest". Not even close.

I suppose you missed that huge graphic that shows education in the United States?

Considering you can't even conclude from the CNN link that higher-education isn't correlated with liberal/democrat voting I'm not surprised.

 

[piasabird]

What caused the earth to get warm after the last ice age?

Answer we dont know but we know for sure that we have global warming!

Where is there any logic in this statement? It is blind belief without any understanding or proof. It is liberalism at its core.