Why are so many dumping ati back to nvidia?

[Xarick]

I see a lot of threads on other sites about people dropping their 5850s and 5870s for 460s and 470s? Is ati really that bad? I have only had my 5850 a few months, but it definitely makes me think something is not right.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Personal preference and the need for the latest and greatest.

 

[JimmiG]

Maybe they used Nvidia the previous generation, got a 5850/5870 when Nvidia kept delaying Fermi, and now that Fermi cards have been out for a while realize that they feel more comfortable with Nvidia hardware and drivers?

 

[lavaheadache]

i think it is all in your head

 

[Qbah]

I think the few people that make a change from HD5850/HD5870 to a GTX460 do it from curiosity for the most part. The green card offers nothing over the red ones - it's actually slower. Yes, you can OC it, but you can do the same with the Radeons.

Another reason I can think of is saving a few bucks. You can probably sell a HD5870 for ~$350, buy a $230 GTX460 and OC it sky-high to get similar performance (to a stock HD5870). Hence you're left with ~$100 which you can spend on hookers and/or booze

Going from a HD5850/HD5870 to a GTX470 is a total waste imo (can't find a single compelling reason to do it).

 

[thilanliyan]

I would definitely NOT side/down grade from a 5850/5870 to a GTX460. I was on a 4870 1GB and would have bought a 5850 but decided to go for a GTX460 as it is a very good bang for buck card. You should not feel bad about having a 5850.

 

[DaveSimmons]

You're probably just noticing the nV threads while ignoring the threads going the other way. Possibly because you're thinking of making the move yourself for some reason.

GTX 460 in SLI is a good deal if you have a SLI-capable motherboard, offering better performance-per-dollar than Crossfire 5850 / 5870 until a day or two ago when 5850s started appearing for $250-60 after rebate.

 

[solofly]

I would definitely NOT side/down grade from a 5850/5870 to a GTX460. I was on a 4870 1GB and would have bought a 5850 but decided to go for a GTX460 as it is a very good bang for buck card. You should not feel bad about having a 5850.

I would never ever combine an AMD CPU with an nv video card, not anymore, not after AMD bought out ATI...(don't ask me why)

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I went from a 5850 to a 470 mostly out of curiousity. Started using the 470 and I never had a problem playing crysis full screen on my HDTV like I did with my 5850. Also nice to be able to use physx although I don't even notice it. Was always a nvidia fan and just feel more comfortable using them. Also doesn't help ati is trying to butt rape us with current pricing compared to what nvidia is offering.

 

[AdamK47]

I would never ever combine an AMD CPU with an nv video card, not anymore, not after AMD bought out ATI...(don't ask me why)

Why?

 

[Scali]

I'm dropping my Radeon 5770 in favour of a GTX460...
I'm a developer, which means nVidia has a few bonuses.
Aside from that, I've been bugging AMD for an OpenCL end-user runtime since November last year... every month they release a new driver, but still no OpenCL runtime...

If AMD doesn't support us developers, we're not going to support them.

 

[solofly]

Why?

I just wouldn't. Just like I wouldn't buy an AMD/ATI CPU if I had nvidia video cards...

I'm all about black or white, I don't like to be in the middle...(in other words I support one or the other - besides ATI needs all the help they can get with dirty nv)

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

I just wouldn't. Just like I wouldn't buy an AMD/ATI CPU if I had nvidia video cards...

I'm all about black or white, I don't like to be in the middle...(in other words I support one or the other - besides ATI needs all the help they can get with dirty nv)

That makes absolutely no sense.

 

[Face2Face]

Because the ATI 5 series is now little long in the tooth and people want to see Fermi do well ( Drives prices down). I like both Radeons and Geforce's I don't care what ever offers the most bang for your buck!! The GTX 460 is now the card to get !! they are such a beast in SLI setup--- SLI scales really well.

 

[Kenmitch]

Like others have said multiple reasons. The GTX 460 in sli looks interesting to me but not enough to ditch my 5850 tho.

Well have to see what is brought to the table later this year from both ATI and Nvidia to get a better picture of things.

 

[Scali]

Well have to see what is brought to the table later this year from both ATI and Nvidia to get a better picture of things.

Well, the GF104 has probably made some GF100-buyers (especially GTX465) pretty unhappy with their purchase.
As a future GF104 owner, I hope GF106/GF108 aren't going to do the same

 

[Grooveriding]

I switched from 5870s to 480s. 50% because I just like trying different hardware out, the other 50% because at my resolution 1GB was not enough vram in certain situations. The price of 2GB 5870s is equal to a 480, so the 480 made more sense as its got more oomph than a 5870. It also cost me $80 to switch after selling my 5870s

If I was using any resolution from 1920x1200 and below, I would not of made the switch until the next gen came out.

At this point, with the gpu power we have, I don't even see what the next gen cards are going to be used for, unless you are using a 30" monitor or 3 monitors at the same time. Right now we have enough GPU power to run anything at 1920x1200 on the highest settings.

 

[Scali]

At this point, with the gpu power we have, I don't even see what the next gen cards are going to be used for, unless you are using a 30" monitor or 3 monitors at the same time. Right now we have enough GPU power to run anything at 1920x1200 on the highest settings.

I think you've answered your own question there
nVidia and AMD both know this. AMD's answer is 3 monitors: Eyefinity.
nVidia is going the PhysX route for now... and for SLI-setups they're also supporting 3-monitor setups now.

 

[JSt0rm]

the 460 is a decent product and people buy it. There is no great conspiracy. Me? I'm happy with my 4890 1gb@1680x1050. I was also happy with my 8800gts 640mb before that.

 

[JimmiG]

I just wouldn't. Just like I wouldn't buy an AMD/ATI CPU if I had nvidia video cards...

I'm all about black or white, I don't like to be in the middle...(in other words I support one or the other - besides ATI needs all the help they can get with dirty nv)

They're video cards...little plastic circuit boards...They are not baseball teams or something :hmm:

Also Nvidia cards actually work better with AMD CPUs than AMD's own cards do, because Nvidia's drivers are more efficient in CPU-limited situations.

At this point, with the gpu power we have, I don't even see what the next gen cards are going to be used for, unless you are using a 30" monitor or 3 monitors at the same time. Right now we have enough GPU power to run anything at 1920x1200 on the highest settings.

I don't agree. Look at the frame rates of the various single-GPU cards at 19x12 here. Remember that most consider 60FPS the "sweet spot" for shooters:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/12
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3809/nvidias-geforce-gtx-460-the-200-king/6

In Metro 2033, GTX 480 manages just 28 FPS:
http://www.techspot.com/review/299-palit-inno3d-geforce-gtx-460/page10.html

Of course, you could probably dial down the settings a notch or two and get almost the same visuals with much better FPS.. But there are plenty of games out already that can really push these GPUs, and more are coming.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

GTX 460 hype.

 

[TheFlyingSquirrel]

for people with 5770/5750 and their 4800 counterparts a 460 is real tempting

 

[ModestGamer]

for people with 5770/5750 and their 4800 counterparts a 460 is real tempting

I'll just add another 5770. 460 is a nice card. but the 5770 is more mature and can be had used for a song.

 

[konakona]

fermi scales better with overclocking and multi-gpu. Some people either don't care about noise (or live in a noisy environment to boot). Whatever it was, 470/480 is has really come down in price. Some of the deals recently combining bing/rebate were so good that you could actually make a switch without paying much at all. Only for the curiosity's sake though, I don't think it's worth the hassle for the majority of people.

I for one did not switch, but added a 470 to a new computer because it was so cheap (the bargainhunter side of me showed up ) and I was going to leave it at school so noise didn't matter as much. If I were to buy one new for home atm I would have gone with 460 or 5850 depending on what kinda deal I get to find first.

 

[dccmadams]

I sold my 5870 and 5850, bought 3 gtx 460s. I am just curious mostly. I ran some benches right before I sold the 5850. I clocked the 5850 to 800/4200 and the gtx 460 to 850/4000, they ran within a few fps of each other. 142/139 in favor of the 5850. The gtx 460 is very cool, 30C idle, 55C gaming, and the fan stayed at its lowest setting on auto of 40%. I am pleased, as I got $310 for the 5870, and $250 for the 5850 to offset the 3 gtx 460s. When ATI has something new, I will buy that if it is a good product.