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guyver01

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You can ask just about anyone if they bought DVD/Blu-ray/High speed Internet specifically to watch porn. I think the answer in most cases would be no. But ask them if they use DVD/Blu-ray/High speed Internet to watch porn, and they'd say yes. People didn't get cable modems because they could get porn faster, they got cable modems because just browsing the web was slooooooooooooow on dial-up.

but ask them how many of them would have bought DVD at $900 .. or waited till a player was $50...

How many had high speed at $740/month... or waited till it was $30 a month..

without the porn industry finance and backing.... DVD players would still be hovering around $500. High Speed would still be around 2mb... instead of 100mb..
 
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yhelothar

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Because sometimes someone feels it's worth the money for the convenience of getting everything that site offers. Plus there are a lot of internet n00bs out there. Never underestimate the number of internet n00bs.
 

htwingnut

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Internet without porn:

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Internet after porn:

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Any questions?
 

prism

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I kneewwww it!!!!! Jesus is reall!!! praise the lord! hallelujah!!!! someone finally gets it, i want to cry so hard right nowww...mua..hah.ahaha...ahahah...thank you lord!!! i have no words for this!!!

I'm with you too Raven; while there are admittedly (and obviously) tons of people out there who watch porn, there are FAR MORE prudes/people with significant others who couldn't give a rat's ass. There are hardly any real statistics in the few links I perused that the others have posted "PROVING" that porn was the deciding factor in certain technologies coming to fruition and/or becoming dominant.

In addition, completely aside from me agreeing with you, you didn't start off your posts flaming the people on here who believe porn is responsible for the new F-35 Lightning II jet, you just asked them to prove their points. Then they proceed to come back with harshly-written posts saying you're the troll and the one filled with rage, when you're presumably the youngest one in this argument at 18? You handled yourself far more maturely than they did. Bravo, sir.
 

Capt Caveman

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I'm with you too Raven; while there are admittedly (and obviously) tons of people out there who watch porn, there are FAR MORE prudes/people with significant others who couldn't give a rat's ass. There are hardly any real statistics in the few links I perused that the others have posted "PROVING" that porn was the deciding factor in certain technologies coming to fruition and/or becoming dominant.

In addition, completely aside from me agreeing with you, you didn't start off your posts flaming the people on here who believe porn is responsible for the new F-35 Lightning II jet, you just asked them to prove their points. Then they proceed to come back with harshly-written posts saying you're the troll and the one filled with rage, when you're presumably the youngest one in this argument at 18? You handled yourself far more maturely than they did. Bravo, sir.

I'm guessing you skipped all of his posts swearing and insulting others before anybody else even insulted him. Hears a little help, read his 2-4 posts. Find me a post before that where anybody insults him. I'm also guessing your blind b/c you didn't see his shouting.

I suggest you do a little research and read some books about porn and the internet. Heck, you could read some of the articles/links that have been posted.

Let me guess, you're his dad?
 
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RavenSEAL

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I'm guessing you skipped all of his posts swearing and insulting others before anybody else even insulted him. I'm also guessing your blind b/c you didn't see his shouting.

I suggest you do a little research and read some books about porn and the internet.

Seriously dude...you need to let it go...get off porntube for once. Your argument is wrong, period. The business of adult entertainment, while it does help these new technologies does not mean that without porn the technology would have failed.

Look at blu-ray, it didn't become sucessful because porn films were behind it, it became successful because it had the majority of the world's major film studios and the PlayStation 3.

Cell phones did not become dominant because people wanted to watch porn while they drove to work, it because popular because you could stay in touch with friends and family all over the world no matter where you were(as long as you had signal).

"Mobile Porn" Did not exist when cell phones were around, if you recall, the first cell phones were a giant suit case, it was like carrying around half of the cities communication tower.

Television was not meant to be a way to "spread porn worldwide", it was meant to be a communication method to allow people to know that there was a world there beyond the one they knew.

PORN HELPED CERTAIN FIELDS OF TECHNOLOGY. I'm not gonna say it didn't! Because it did!

But by no means can you say that porn is the whole and sole reason why we have television, internet, cell phones, eShopping...

Yes, I understand your argument, the adult entertainment industry did a lot for certain things, and it helped pioneer certain "features" or "advancements" that we see today, but it did not FORCE the technology to be created.

"Porn Co." did not go to the US gov't and said "Hey, mr. nixon, we know you're making the internet, now let us have it so it becomes the center of the universe of porn!"

Do you even know what the internet looked like when it began?

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I could expand on my argument forever, but the point is, ask any scientist, economist, historian, whatever, porn does not evolve society nor technology.
 

guyver01

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The business of adult entertainment, while it does help these new technologies does not mean that without porn the technology would have failed.

PORN HELPED CERTAIN FIELDS OF TECHNOLOGY. I'm not gonna say it didn't! Because it did!

But by no means can you say that porn is the whole and sole reason why we have television, internet, cell phones, eShopping...

you need to re-read the thread... noone is saying porn invented the internet... but porn did pioneer the need for some technologies that are mainstream today.. noone can deny this..

http://pcworld.about.com/od/web/12-Ways-Porn-Has-Changed-the-W.htm

eShopping.. yes... many of the security and anti-fraud features used by major online retailers came about because of the adult entertainment industry.
 

Capt Caveman

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I could expand on my argument forever, but the point is, ask any scientist, economist, historian, whatever, porn does not evolve society nor technology.

You're the one that keeps changing their stance. Originally, you talked about advancing technology, next it become forcing technology and now technology doesn't evolve around porn. What is it? And if you're only 18, no wonder you come across as an ignorant kid. The internet was born before you were even born.

And the above is wrong. From the above links/articles, porn has evolved technology. Here's another article that might educate you a little:

Thank You, Porn! 12 Ways the Sex Trade Has Changed the Web

1. Nice: Online Payment Systems
2. Naughty: Spam
3. Nice: Streaming Content
4. Naughty: Malware
5. Nice: Live Chat
6. Naughty: Pop-Ups, Pop-Unders, Mousetrapping
7. Nice: Broadband
8. Naughty: Browser Hijacking
9. Nice: Traffic optimization
10. Naughty: Domain-Name Hijacking
11. Nice: 3G Mobile Services
12. Naughty: Paris Hilton

edit - guyver beat me to it
 

RavenSEAL

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You're the one that keeps changing their stance. Originally, you talked about advancing technology, next it become forcing technology and now technology doesn't evolve around porn. What is it? And if you're only 18, no wonder you come across as an ignorant kid. The internet was born before you were even born.

And the above is wrong. From the above links/articles, porn has evolved technology. Here's another article that might educate you a little:

Thank You, Porn! 12 Ways the Sex Trade Has Changed the Web

1. Nice: Online Payment Systems
2. Naughty: Spam
3. Nice: Streaming Content
4. Naughty: Malware
5. Nice: Live Chat
6. Naughty: Pop-Ups, Pop-Unders, Mousetrapping
7. Nice: Broadband
8. Naughty: Browser Hijacking
9. Nice: Traffic optimization
10. Naughty: Domain-Name Hijacking
11. Nice: 3G Mobile Services
12. Naughty: Paris Hilton

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Even after i admit it, you are still saying i'm an 18 year old retard. You know what, you're just not fucking worth dealing with, piece of trash of a troll.

and guyver, please, before you fucking post, think again before contradicting yourself.

where do you think the porn comes from?


also... many technology advances came as a result of porn..

VHS..
The Internet..
High Speed Internet..
DVD..
BluRay..
3-D..
Interactive Holograms..

The porn industry forces technology to advance.
Yea, thats right...**** you.


I'm done here, you two need to go get a fucking life.
 

Soundmanred

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you need to re-read the thread... noone is saying porn invented the internet... but porn did pioneer the need for some technologies that are mainstream today.. noone can deny this..

http://pcworld.about.com/od/web/12-Ways-Porn-Has-Changed-the-W.htm

eShopping.. yes... many of the security and anti-fraud features used by major online retailers came about because of the adult entertainment industry.


He decided to change the point he was arguing so he could "win". Bad debaters always make things more extreme so that the other side can't possibly "win".
He went from trying to say that pornography didn't help anything to "BUT PORN DIDUNT ENVENT THE INTERNETZ!"
The difference is he wasn't alive when this stuff was happening and see the evolution of things as they were happening.
(And whoever said he acted mature didn't read the whole thread, he's a rager through and through."i want to cry so hard right nowww...")
 
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sdifox

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Hard drives and broadband are sure driven by porn and piracy (which is mostly porn).

All yalls with 2TB hard drives. Did you actually pay for all of those DVDs? A perfect DVD rip is roughly 5GB, so you can fit maybe 350 of those on a single hard drive. You didn't buy all 350 DVDs now did you.


<=== me got 1200 DVDs...
 

Capt Caveman

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Even after i admit it, you are still saying i'm an 18 year old retard. You know what, you're just not fucking worth dealing with, piece of trash of a troll.

and guyver, please, before you fucking post, think again before contradicting yourself.


Yea, thats right...**** you.


I'm done here, you two need to go get a fucking life.

Well, since you mentioned it, you are a retard. Prism said you were 18 years old. I was hoping you were b/c it would explain your posts and changing argument. The only troll is you. You can't back-up any of your arguments so you resort to name calling and shouting. You're given link/article after another from NYTimes, CNN, PCWorld and they're all trash to you. More likely, you don't want to read them and be pwn'd. Instead, you change your argument and call people names.

How about NPR back in 2002?

Is Pornography Driving Technology?

November 29, 2002

Brooke Gladstone, co-host of NPR's On the Media produced at member station WNYC, examines how the pornography industry has been a key driver in the development of new technology -- technology that eventually finds its way into widespread use.
 

sdifox

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lulz, lynx is no where near the beginning of internet.


wow, screen shot of Next, now that is rare. Again, not beginning of internet, not even close.

RavenSeal, I think you should spend some time reading.... like start from wikipedia.
 
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RavenSEAL

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lulz, lynx is no where near the beginning of internet.


wow, screen shot of Next, now that is rare. Again, not beginning of internet, not even close.

RavenSeal, I think you should spend some time reading.... like start from wikipedia.

Which further proves my point, the internet wasn't invented for porn. Considering Lynx and Next were considered the first "commercial web browsers"
 

xanis

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and guyver, please, before you fucking post, think again before contradicting yourself.

lolololololololol

RavenSEAL said:
I could expand on my argument forever, but the point is, ask any scientist, economist, historian, whatever, porn does not evolve society nor technology.

RavenSEAL said:
PORN HELPED CERTAIN FIELDS OF TECHNOLOGY. I'm not gonna say it didn't! Because it did!
 
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guyver01

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and guyver, please, before you fucking post, think again before contradicting yourself.

LMAO..

do you really wanna go there?
Originally Posted by guyver01
The porn industry forces technology to advance.

Yeahhhh....no. :thumbsdown:


While i'm not saying the adult entertainment biz doesn't help the industry, they DO NOT FORCE TECHNOLOGY TO ADVANCE.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/155745/thank_you_porn_12_ways_the_sex_trade_has_changed_the_web.html

The next time you buy something at Amazon or another online retailer, marveling at the ease and security of e-commerce, don't just thank Jeff Bezos, thank Richard Gordon. In the mid-1990s Gordon founded Electronic Card Systems, which pioneered credit card transactions for a wide range of disreputable sites, according to the New York Times.

In a May 2001 interview with NPR, Danni Ashe (pictured), founder of seminal softcore site Danni's Hard Drive, noted that "the adult entertainment industry was the first to use streaming JPEG push video, which was video that worked...in the browser and didn't require a plug-in. I think as an industry we tend to jump in a little bit faster and tweak the technology and try to get it to work faster."


"Without programming pioneers trying to perfect video streaming software that would deliver images of copulation and procreation to paying customers hooked up with a 28.8kbps dial-up modem, it is unlikely that CNN would be effectively delivering news clips of global breaking news," wrote Lewis Perdue in Eroticabiz.

"Live camgirls created the peer-to-peer direct sex work arena, heralded the death of the pimp, and forged new tech paths (such as teledildonic interaction with camgirls where the customer pays for the connection and operates her sex toy live)," Blue wrote in an e-mail. "It remains in lucrative commercial use today."

Though the evidence is largely anecdotal, various authorities believe that "acquiring higher resolution pornographic images faster promoted broadband connections," as Jonathan Coopersmith, an associate professor of history at Texas A&M, put it in a 2006 paper on the nature of computer-based porn [PDF].

According to an October 2000 report in the New York Times, nearly 20 percent of AT&T broadband customers were paying to watch "real, live all-American sex" online, at an average rate of $10 per film. A 2003 study by Nielsen/NetRatings found that online music sharing and pornography were the biggest factors underlying broadband penetration in Europe.


"The porn folks have led the industry in traffic development and monetization," says Ariel Ozick, chief of operations for Wired Rhino, a search marketing optimization company. "They developed the concept of top sites linking to generate traffic and were among the first to develop an affiliate revenue-sharing model."


Just as adult content helped push the propagation of cable and DSL connections, mobile porn will undoubtedly arouse demand for high-speed 3G data services.
 

RavenSEAL

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lolololololololol



When i meant "certain fields of technology", i meant the internet.Again, you're getting it wrong. It helped, but DID not develop or force any new technology as guyver and capt. whatever keep trying to impose.
 

guyver01

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DID not develop or force any new technology

"the adult entertainment industry was the first to use streaming JPEG push video, which was video that worked...in the browser and didn't require a plug-in

"the adult entertainment industry was the first to use streaming JPEG push video, which was video that worked...in the browser and didn't require a plug-in

"the adult entertainment industry was the first to use streaming JPEG push video, which was video that worked...in the browser and didn't require a plug-in
 

Capt Caveman

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When i meant "certain fields of technology", i meant the internet.Again, you're getting it wrong. It helped, but DID not develop or force any new technology as guyver and capt. whatever keep trying to impose.

If you read any of the quotes/links/articles, you would be proven wrong. Seriously, go over to P&N, your ignorance will fit right in.
 

sdifox

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Which further proves my point, the internet wasn't invented for porn. Considering Lynx and Next were considered the first "commercial web browsers"

Next was not a commercial web browser... It was a hardware platform and an OS.

Lynx was definitely not a commercial web browser.

You understand internet is not just World Wide Web right? There is a shitload of stuff before WWW showed up.


For example

http://searchsoa.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid26_gci212203,00.html
 
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Capt Caveman

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Which further proves my point, the internet wasn't invented for porn. Considering Lynx and Next were considered the first "commercial web browsers"

That wasn't your original argument. Why do you keep changing it? And no one said the internet was invented for porn.