So you support nothing, but not nothing becuase your support does not advance the cause of nothingness, rather you support the status quo, that is what the world would be when you do nothing. Which is also evil. So even if you don't support evil people you still support evil. That is, unless there is good around to support, which I have assumed there isn't.
3chordcharlie
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For once I agree with you, and not just in a Bush bashing way. I think everyone from B. Clinton to Alan Greenspan needs to stop and think about their actions and the impacts more.
Actually, history is always a requirement in public education, in my school we had World history and 2 years of American History. Critical thinking tends to come from math and writing courses, both of which are required for graduation. The most "common" tasks such as balancing a checkbook aren't taught except as electives, but really, it's not that difficult with interent bank statements, and anyone who has any will to learn after high school can learn what they need to about civics and other subjects.
I agree that our public school system does suck overall, especially so in urban districts with large amounts of minorities, but don't exaggerate just to make a point.
Actually when not paying taxes to a government that you think is doing evil or injustice, you're sending the signal that there is some dissention. If 1% of the population stopped paying taxes while voicing their dismay and being active in protest, it will become an issue that the government can't ignore. It's a matter of organization. The status quo is only being upheld if you pay the government and simply vote when allowed (if voting at all).
Man set down your Kool-Aid.
I've never advocated "restricting rights for fear of terrorism", despite what the lefties here would say.
Oh please, it's so obvious you and the rest of the Republicans especially in here bang the Fear Drum while shouting "spread em while I frisk you".
WhipperSnapper
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Heh. Americans are being laid off and fired and replaced by foreigners on H-1B and L-1 visas, and there isn't an outcry. Then the wealthy class and upper middle class use the economic force of global labor wage arbitrage (such as work visas, foreign outsourcing, and mass immigration) to transfer wealth to themselves from the middle class. Then the politicians allow an invastion of illegal aliens and also mass immigration, creating an overpopulation problem.
...And Americans don't care.
Why don't Americans care about economic policy? Few have a coherent vision of what kinds of policies are needed to bring about prosperity and few have the critical reasoning ability needed to identify those few politicians who would advocate those policies. Basically, the people lack intellectual leadership and they are apathetic, latching onto select issues.
Also, the nation is rife with a sense of fatalism--people feel that the politicians are rotten (and rightfully so) and that that's just the way it is. Who is John Galt? Another problem is that few Ameicans know how to think about economic, political, and philosophical issues. Few Americans possess solid critical reasoning skills. Thus, politics and economics really do appear to be subjective subjects without any real answers. Many Ameicans don't understand politics or economics.
WhipperSnapper
Lifer
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Here are the current political choices:
Republicans. They attract votes from working class people who have religious values while at the same time advocating econoimc policies (global labor wage arbitrage, foreign outsourcing, H-1B and L-1 visas, mass immigration, illegal immigration) that will lead to the impoverishment of those people. They also want to force religious mysticism onto the populace, transforming the nation into a Christian Iran.
Democrats. This is a group of almost mindless, knee-jerk altruists. They lack coherency and have little sense of economic rational self interest, also advocating global labor wage arbitrage but perhaps not as fervently as the Republicans. Their main message appears to be, "The Republicans are despicable, and we are not the Republicans, so vote for us." They have failed to articulate any sort of coherent economic policy or vision. As an example of altruism, few would advocate that our national policy should be to pursue Americans' rational selfish economic interests. In their view, we should allow mass immigration from Mexico so that we might share our hard-earned wealth with those who are less fortunate.
Well, there you have it. Some choice, heh? Which poison would you prefer? Religionists who want to destroy the middle and lower classes or mindless, knee-jerk altruists whose policies would end up being detrimental to the middle and lower classes. Poison or Poison? No wonder Americans are apathetic.
Perhaps we need a new political party that would pursue the rational selfish economin interests of the middle class (which would also benefit the other classes) for a change.
Republicans. They attract votes from working class people who have religious values while at the same time advocating econoimc policies (global labor wage arbitrage, foreign outsourcing, H-1B and L-1 visas, mass immigration, illegal immigration) that will lead to the impoverishment of those people. They also want to force religious mysticism onto the populace, transforming the nation into a Christian Iran.
Democrats. This is a group of almost mindless, knee-jerk altruists. They lack coherency and have little sense of economic rational self interest, also advocating global labor wage arbitrage but perhaps not as fervently as the Republicans. Their main message appears to be, "The Republicans are despicable, and we are not the Republicans, so vote for us." They have failed to articulate any sort of coherent economic policy or vision. As an example of altruism, few would advocate that our national policy should be to pursue Americans' rational selfish economic interests. In their view, we should allow mass immigration from Mexico so that we might share our hard-earned wealth with those who are less fortunate.
Well, there you have it. Some choice, heh? Which poison would you prefer? Religionists who want to destroy the middle and lower classes or mindless, knee-jerk altruists whose policies would end up being detrimental to the middle and lower classes. Poison or Poison? No wonder Americans are apathetic.
Perhaps we need a new political party that would pursue the rational selfish economin interests of the middle class (which would also benefit the other classes) for a change.
rudder
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Clinton has real ideals once as well. instead he used his influence to shag a fatty in the oval office. As for the repbulicans in office now, I would say most have sold themselves out to corporations and special interest groups that shower them with money.
It reeks at all levels and all policital parties. Here in the democrat controlled Tennessee we are seeing a stinking cesspool of corruption that has been surfacing again and again for the last 6-8 months. The feds even arrested 5 state senators during a legislative session recently.
I'm asleep because my kid is sick and has an ear infection. He passed on the sick to me and my wife and he's waking up all night.
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Zebo
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Nice post - don;t forget about "free market" mysticism republicans are under the spell of either .http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/mythologyofwealth.htm
:beer:
This is exactly why I just don't care that much. Therefore, I have to pick some issues that I deem of the greatest importance and vote accordingly, even if I despise those who I am voting for for many other reasons.
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