Why are cars capable of going over 85mph?

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: Trinitron

Originally posted by: James3shin
WORST IDEA EVER. Driver error, human error, whatever you want to call it, is the reason for the majority car accidents. Not because the car can go 180, and has AWD. It's the drivers fvcking up.

Absolutely - and it's not the Government's job to fix stupid.

PERSONAL responsibility is what will fix automotive deaths, not cars limited to a certain speed.

People die on tractors every year that go 10 mph - maybe we should limit them to 5 mph!

haha 10/10

 

[AStar617]

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: Viperoni
Because of freedom. We should have the freedom to go excessively fast on public roads, but also face the consequences.

Plus, what if a person takes their car to a racetrack?

Finally, you can usually get around speed limiters fairly easily.

for those that want to go on a racetrack, then those people can mod their cars, no?

just like 1% of people who overclock their pc's

Irrelevant analogy. Since when was there a federal mandate limiting the speed of CPUs? Voiding a warranty and committing a crime are two wholly different concepts.

 

[forrestroche]

Originally posted by: Trinitron

Originally posted by: forrestroche

Originally posted by: Trinitron

Originally posted by: JEDI
From this thread.

Since most states the max is 65mph, why doesnt the govt limit car manufacturers to a little above that, say 25%, to 85mph?

and if a state, like Montana, that allows faster than that, just build a model for that state. kinda like a model for CA/NY low emitions law.

I bet you think more Federal regulation is the solution to all our problems.

I bet you think less Federal regulation is the solution to all our problems.

Common sense dictates that some regulation is necesary. The only question is what limits are appropriate? The OP was posing a legitimate question for debate.

Law and Order must be observed. If you can find a place where I have said otherwise I would LOVE to see it.

If common sense was observed by the OP - there would have been no post.

I can't find it. I have a suspicion that neither can you find where the OP says that more federal regulation will fix all our problems.

The OP's question in no way flies in the face on common sense but your comments about it do seem to.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
I'm not sure how much of a fix it would be , but I'm sure this idea would help:

Have a teir system for licensing.. when you first get your license at 16, you can only operate a car/truck with less than 150 hp..
18 years of age, you can be bumped up to operating cars/trucks up to 199hp, but only after meeting a 2000 mile experience mark..
At 21 years of age, limits are ceased, but only after lets say.. you've reached 5000 miles experience..

It would have to operate at under 18 (not go up to 21). Also, this would mean that a person is FORCED to purchase multiple cars in a short period of time, and also that you would likely be unable to drive your parents car, so not owning a car would not be an option.

Moronic idea.

forced to buy multiple cars? just 1, really. get that used 150hp civic and you're set till you can afford your own car with however much HP, assuming you pass the 21y/o mark.

im game for better driver training. driver's ed in maryland is a joke.

 

[forrestroche]

Originally posted by: AStar617
Irrelevant analogy. Since when was there a federal mandate limiting the speed of CPUs? Voiding a warranty and committing a crime are two wholly different concepts.

The anology may be correct or it may be incorrect, but it is certainly not "irrelevant."

OP doesn't say there is a federal "mandate". And for your information neither is there for speed limits.

 

[UDT89]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
A better solution would be to revoke that little pos drivers license until 18.

Like being over 18 makes people great drivers. :roll:

How about actually making hard road tests and giving rigorous training in the operation of a motor vehicle.

actually i wish i didnt drive till i was 21. would've saved me 2 accidents that were b/c i was an idiot.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
A better solution would be to revoke that little pos drivers license until 18.

Like being over 18 makes people great drivers. :roll:

How about actually making hard road tests and giving rigorous training in the operation of a motor vehicle.

just because you can pass the test, doesn't mean you won't fsck around....

 

[teckmaster]

I myself would love to see the speed limiters disappear. My car has 140mph speedo on it but it shuts me down at 110mph. If they aren't going to let me go that fast, then only put a speedo in the thing that goes to 110.

 

[chansigrilian]

so when i take my car to the track i can drive in excess of 85+ (more like 100+) mph.

i understand where this sentiment comes from but the choice should be in the hands of responsible car owners, or parents in some instances, definitely not government mandate.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: teckmaster
I myself would love to see the speed limiters disappear. My car has 140mph speedo on it but it shuts me down at 110mph. If they aren't going to let me go that fast, then only put a speedo in the thing that goes to 110.

No, I believe they should keep speed limiters, what they should do though is allow one to easily disable it. They're there for a good purpose, you don't want to be going 150MPH on a car that has tires that are rated at only 120mph, do you? The cars that don't have speed limiters are the ones that have tires that can handle it, you'll only see a speed limiter on a car if it's got tires that can't handle speeds above that.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: teckmaster
I myself would love to see the speed limiters disappear. My car has 140mph speedo on it but it shuts me down at 110mph. If they aren't going to let me go that fast, then only put a speedo in the thing that goes to 110.

Most of the time that is done because of the tires, if they let you go to 140 they'd have to put on more expensive V-rated tires instead of the S rated ones. (S is the most standard rating now)

 

[Ilikepiedoyou]

I think it is a great idea, to do to most cars. The race track question is a good one. But if you dirve a minivan or were dumb enough to buy an suv, then won't be taking it to the track or are to incompetent to do so. Putting these devices on miniwans, suvs, family sedans is a good idea.

 

[DieselUV]

that would suck

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

There is this road up around where I live where at least 4-5 times a year, some teenager is killed. This is no lie, but everytime its excessive speeds (80+ or more; speed limit on this road is 40 and its a windy road). The last time, it was some 17 yr old punk with three friends in his brand new spunky all wheel drive BMW out on this road showing his @$$. Two died, the other two critically injured.

Meh, this is Darwin at work. Those teenagers speeding and unable to control their vehicles are unfit to carry on the human race if they're too stupid to realize they can't control the vehicle. The solution is more mandated TRAINING, not more government regulation, more speed limits or more limited vehicles.

 

[forrestroche]

Originally posted by: Raduque
The solution is more mandated TRAINING, not more government regulation, more speed limits or more limited vehicles.

Yeah, cuz teenagers do what they are told to do.

Edit: the defect in your Darwin argument (which I am all for) is that people who drive 120 and have an accident have a strange way of taking others with them.

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: forrestroche

Originally posted by: Raduque
The solution is more mandated TRAINING, not more government regulation, more speed limits or more limited vehicles.

Yeah, cuz teenagers do what they are told to do.

Edit: the defect in your Darwin argument (which I am all for) is that people who drive 120 and have an accident have a strange way of taking others with them.

I'll agree with you on this, but I'm also willing to lay odds on the other teenagers being too dimwitted to realize the driver couldn't control the car, and were egging him on. This one was pure Darwinism - if they'd have killed a person on the side of the road or in another vehicle, it'd be a tragedy.

edit: spelling, grammar

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

There's nothing wrong with limiting it at 85. People just want to speed adn this is what 90% of the crowd is saying. They just want tos peed and they say FVCK OFF to speed limits. They think they can get away with it, so they should be allowed to do that.

How about instead of limiting your speed, we put 2 million more cops on interstates (forget costs for a second) and basically you're guaranteed a ticket when you speed?

Would you like that?

So would you like to get pwned by cops or just have a vehicle that won't let you get pwned?

 

[mercanucaribe]

Montana?? The speed limits there are 75mph...

 

[tomywishbone]

Originally posted by: Insane3D
Thankfully, people like you have no direct control over such things...

:thumbsdown:

 

[quentinterintino]

Originally posted by: JEDI
From this thread.

Since most states the max is 65mph, why doesnt the govt limit car manufacturers to a little above that, say 25%, to 85mph?

and if a state, like Montana, that allows faster than that, just build a model for that state. kinda like a model for CA/NY low emitions law.

Here's an idea: Why don't we ban cigarettes, knives, alcohol, guns, flying, sports, drugs, sex after twelve, or any other illegal activity. That way, nobody will get hurt! yay!

And by the way, the speed limit on I-10 is 80 mph here in west Texas. If you're going slower than 85 in the left lane, you are getting run over.

The pussification of America continues with comments like yours.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: JEDI
From this thread.

Since most states the max is 65mph, why doesnt the govt limit car manufacturers to a little above that, say 25%, to 85mph?

and if a state, like Montana, that allows faster than that, just build a model for that state. kinda like a model for CA/NY low emitions law.

Already said...there are hmm private roads and race courses.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Kalvin00
that's retarded. going 100+ mph on a deserted stretch of road is harmless. people need to relax a little

So make it legal...

 

[ranmaniac]

I don't care what the speed limit is, however, if you cause an accident and kill someone, you should have your license taken away for good. Can't drive responsibily? Too bad, take the bus to work, or get used to bumming rides for life.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: ranmaniac
I don't care what the speed limit is, however, if you cause an accident and kill someone, you should have your license taken away for good. Can't drive responsibily? Too bad, take the bus to work, or get used to bumming rides for life.

wow...keep playing your online games.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Kalvin00
that's retarded. going 100+ mph on a deserted stretch of road is harmless. people need to relax a little

So make it legal...

Some people think 'Main Street' with it's posted 35mph limit is a deserted stretch of road after 10pm.

Problem is Grandma 3 streets up doesn't see 2 headlights coming at her at triple digits down the road at the next intersection. As she proceeds at 5 mph across the road, carnage ensues.