Why are cars capable of going over 85mph?

JEDI

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From this thread.

Since most states the max is 65mph, why doesnt the govt limit car manufacturers to a little above that, say 25%, to 85mph?

and if a state, like Montana, that allows faster than that, just build a model for that state. kinda like a model for CA/NY low emitions law.
 

Scouzer

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Originally posted by: JEDI
From this thread.

Since most states the max is 65mph, why doesnt the govt limit car manufacturers to a little above that, say 25%, to 85mph?

and if a state, like Montana, that allows faster than that, just build a model for that state. kinda like a model for CA/NY low emitions law.

1) stupid
2) montana is hardly big enough of a market to be able to do fancy things the bigger states can do...and car manufacturers won't spend the effort to sell cars there
 

Kalvin00

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that's retarded. going 100+ mph on a deserted stretch of road is harmless. people need to relax a little
 

amol

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Because cars are not limited to driving on state owned roads.

Exactly. What if I want to take my car to a racetrack and operate it there? If I buy a car with power, I'd want to be able to use it.
 

fleshconsumed

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Because it's fun. Fvsk off.


On a more practical note it's just not realistic. First, you'd have to sell cars based on state. Then what would you do if you wanted to buy a car out of state? Or what would happen if laws were changed and upped the speed limit or lowered it? Would you have to take your car into service to reprogram it? And for that matter that's only applicable to cars with auto transmissions, what would you do with manual ones? Not to mention the fact that I don't want govt controlling every little aspect of my life. A better solution would be to revoke that little pos drivers license until 18.
 

SirStev0

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Speed limits are ridiculous for the most part. There is no reason why I shouldnt be legally allowed to drive 85 on an interstate. Everyone is doing it anyway. Speed limits should be suggests. Speeding tickets should be for when people are driving recklessly. If some ass is doing 100 swerving in and out of traffic and acting like a moron while endangering people he should get a ticket. If he is doing 100 on a normal highway, driving under control, and not like a jackass then he should be allowed to go about his business without interference.
 
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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
A better solution would be to revoke that little pos drivers license until 18.

Like being over 18 makes people great drivers. :roll:

How about actually making hard road tests and giving rigorous training in the operation of a motor vehicle.
 

chrisms

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There are a number of social, economic, and political factors which contribute to the production of mainstream automobiles which can exceed speeds above 85 miles per hour. These reasons are complex, so to give a more basic response to your question...
 

Viperoni

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Because of freedom. We should have the freedom to go excessively fast on public roads, but also face the consequences.

Plus, what if a person takes their car to a racetrack?

Finally, you can usually get around speed limiters fairly easily.
 

Shawn

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Because I average about 90mph everytime I drive back home. I've got to go 900miles round trip. I'm not doing 70.
 

fleshconsumed

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
A better solution would be to revoke that little pos drivers license until 18.

Like being over 18 makes people great drivers. :roll:

How about actually making hard road tests and giving rigorous training in the operation of a motor vehicle.

It might not make him a great drive, but it will certainly make him think twice before speeding that much.

I don't think harder tests will help, theory is one thing, practice is another. Longer training behind the wheel before being able to take the drive test would help though. Over here in IL it's only 25 hours, that's just not enough to impress upon the kids the importance of driving safe. Parents simply drive their kids around for 25 hours, take them to driving facility, they pass and free to ride. 25 hours is just not enough.
 

indamixx99

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Besides, if a car manufacturer created a speed limit, how long would it be before someone hacks it? Modchips for cars anyone?
 

Mermaidman

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If the insurance company gives a discount for a 85 MPH speed limiter, would you agree?
 

erub

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
If the insurance company gives a discount for a 85 MPH speed limiter, would you agree?

I would definitely agree to it, assuming discount 10% or greater..and that the device didn't cost me anything and didn't otherwise affect performance of car.

I've heard that insurance companies are giving discounts for teenagers that have GPS installed so that their parents can monitor..write up in the Atlanta newspaper about it
 

igowerf

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
A better solution would be to revoke that little pos drivers license until 18.

Like being over 18 makes people great drivers. :roll:

How about actually making hard road tests and giving rigorous training in the operation of a motor vehicle.

Before we even do that, we need to invest more in public transportation, especially here in Los Angeles... :(
 
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Originally posted by: erub
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
If the insurance company gives a discount for a 85 MPH speed limiter, would you agree?

I would definitely agree to it, assuming discount 10% or greater..and that the device didn't cost me anything and didn't otherwise affect performance of car.

I've heard that insurance companies are giving discounts for teenagers that have GPS installed so that their parents can monitor..write up in the Atlanta newspaper about it

I think GPS so parents can monitor where their children are is a little over the top. If you don't trust your kids, don't get them a f*cking car. If you raised your kids properly, there isn't much more you can do when they are old enough to drive. Eventually, you have to allow kids to make choices in their lives, and if they fall flat, let them pick themselves up (maybe offer a helping hand if need be).

Plus, how would GPS be worthy of a discount? It doesn't make the car safer or less prone to damaging other objects.
 

her209

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I think the government has no business telling us how fast we can go. The only reason they do it is because its a revenue generator.
 

LordMorpheus

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They kinda tried in the 80's/early 90's with speedos that only read to 85. You could buy a trans am with a giant V8 and a speedo that read to 85. The car could probably bury the needle in around 10 seconds.

My sable had an 85 mph speedo.

I think the reasoning was split between safety interests and the oil crisis, or at least that's what I've been told.
 

wetcat007

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
A better solution would be to revoke that little pos drivers license until 18.

Like being over 18 makes people great drivers. :roll:

How about actually making hard road tests and giving rigorous training in the operation of a motor vehicle.

People then would just be 18 years old inexperienced drivers as opposed to being 16 years old inexperienced drivers...

It's hard to train people not to talk on their cell phone while driving or speed. However training people to drive in the snow or on ice could be productive.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: Viperoni
Because of freedom. We should have the freedom to go excessively fast on public roads, but also face the consequences.

Plus, what if a person takes their car to a racetrack?

Finally, you can usually get around speed limiters fairly easily.

for those that want to go on a racetrack, then those people can mod their cars, no?

just like 1% of people who overclock their pc's
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: JEDI
From this thread.

Since most states the max is 65mph, why doesnt the govt limit car manufacturers to a little above that, say 25%, to 85mph?

and if a state, like Montana, that allows faster than that, just build a model for that state. kinda like a model for CA/NY low emitions law.

Build a model of a car for a specific state? hahahahahaha
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Thankfully, people like you have no direct control over such things...

:thumbsdown:

Oh but they slowly are and more and more people are starting to think like this as well, and go "Oh its ok, butt rape me some and take more of my freedoms. Whats it for my own good and to stop my terrorist neighbor from eating a burger or driving a SUV? OH OK, no lube this time please :D"