Why Apple [Inc.] is a Virus.

[CZroe]

I meant the iPhone was expensive to replace.

If you want to tell me the screen is cheap, go right ahead. That doesnt change the fact the iPhone is overpriced AND fragile. If he's expected to replace his scren once a year then it's even more overpriced

Wow. Even CraigsList is overflowing with people eager to fix cracked phones. There are whole businesses and websites dedicated to repairing these things and getting parts, like ifixit.com and others. If you can't find a source nationwide, you are helpless. In San Diego, my boss found an iPhone 4 with a cracked back glass and paid a local guy too much to fix it but got it done right away. A few weeks later, mine fell off my motorcycle and got run over, requiring the exact same part. I got it for under $13 shipped from eBay and it looks great. A truck driver at work dropped his Android phone and cracked his touchpanel right in front of me. I told him he could get a cheap replacement online. A coworker overheard and brought his HTC Sensation/Pyramid to work and we ordered a replacement LCD and touchpanel for $60. Less than an hour later, I dropped my Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY 4G while showing him a video causing my touchpanel to shatter. As frustrated as I was with Apple, fragility and replacement parts costs were NEVER an issue.

IT GOT FREAKIN' RUN OVER ON A FREEWAY and yet the front glass was fine with nothing more than a screen protector. My Xperia had a full skin. I had a warranty replacement on the way for a problem with the alarm dismissing itself and they wanted to deny my warranty when I also tried to claim on A crack droning where you pry the battery lid off. The skin did nothing for either issue and it had never been dropped at that point. Anyway, there are NO Stealth Blue battery doors on eBay. Luckily, they expect you to keep your battery door when RMAing so I convinced them that it was irrelevant and I'll be keeping it.

My you point is that my experience shows Android phones in general to be more fragile and costly to repair, though they are all relatively cheap.

 

[Train]

Wow. Even CraigsList is overflowing with people eager to fix cracked phones. There are whole businesses and websites dedicated to repairing these things and getting parts, like fixing.com and others. If you can't find a source nationwide, you are helpless. In San Diego, my boss found an iPhone 4 with a cracked back glass and paid a local guy too much to fix it but got it done right away. A few weeks later, mine fell off my motorcycle and got run over, requiring the exact same part. I got it for under $13 shipped from eBay and it looks great. A truck driver at work dropped his Android phone and cracked his touchpanel right in front of me. I told him he could get a cheap replacement online. A carrier overheard and brought his HTC Sensation/Pyramid to work and we ordered a replacement LCD and touchpanel for $60. Less than an hour later, I dropped my Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY 4G while showing him a video causing my touchpanel to shatter. As frustrated as I was with Apple, fragility and replacement parts costs were NEVER an issue. IT GOT FREAKIN' RUN OVER ON A FREEWAY and yet the front glass was fine with nothing more than a screen protector. My Xperia had a full skin. I had a warranty replacement on the way for a problem with the alarm dismissing itself and they wanted to deny my warranty when I also tried to claim on A crack droning where you pry the battery lid off. The skin did nothing for either issue and it had never been dropped at that point. Anyway, there are NO Stealth Blue battery doors on eBay. Luckily, they expect you to.keep your battery door when RMAing so I.convinced them that it was irrelevant and I'll be keeping it. My you.t is that my experience shows Android phoes in general to be more fragile and costly to repair, though they areall relatively cheap.

Whoosh. That's the sound of you completely missing the point. That's like telling someons whose car is leaking gas that it's not a problem because gas stations are everywhere.

 

[CZroe]

Whoosh. That's the sound of you completely missing the point. That's like telling someons whose car is leaking gas that it's not a problem because gas stations are everywhere.

The "woosh" is yours because I *also* pointed out that Apple's screens are also seemingly more durable than most Android device's screens despite being an Android convert.

That's like saying that there are gas stations everywhere AND it's less likely to leak gas AND it uses cheaper gas than the competition.

Anyway, I wrote all that on an Android device with a shattered screen to boot. The iPhone 4 failed in a much cheaper way than the Android devices I pointed out despite a much more harsh impact, but even if the screen glass did crack, replacements on eBay are cheaper for the iPhone.

 

[Train]

The *woosh* is yours because I *also* pointed out that Apple's screens are also seemingly more durable than most Android device's screens despite being an Android convert.
That's like saying that there are gas stations everywhere AND it's less likely to leak gas AND it uses cheaper gas than the competition. I wrote all that on an Android device with a shattered screen to boot.

Anecdotal vs actual. See the video posted above. or do some googling:

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=are+iphone+screens+more+likely+to+break

 

[CZroe]

Anecdotal vs actual. See the video posted above. or do some googling:

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=are+iphone+screens+more+likely+to+break

Why don't you read your very first search result and compare it to my anecdote: Only the back glass broke and it was VERY cheap to fix and *gasp* didn't even need to be done! Skewed statistics caused by the additional glass that isn't as tough as the "Gorilla Glass" on the front? Very. Also: Edited above. And when I say "harsh" I mean it: It fell off a motorcycle at 90MPH and was run over by at least one car on a major freeway (San Diego's HWY-163).

 

[Train]

Why don't you read your very first search result and compare it to my anecdote: Only the back glass broke and it was VERY cheap to fix and *gasp* didn't even need to be done! Skewed statistics? Very. Also: Edited above. And when I say "harsh" I mean it: It fell off a motorcycle at 90MPH and was run over by at least one car on a major freeway (San Diego's HWY-163).

You are STILL missing the point! Just because it is cheap to fix does not make it any less fragile. As the most expensive phone it should break the least.

 

[CZroe]

You are STILL missing the point! Just because it is cheap to fix does not make it any less fragile. As the most expensive phone it should break the least.

You are comparing the equivalent of a battery door to the device itself. YOU are missing the point. That articles are worded SPECIFICALLY to sensationalize. I am one of Apple's biggest critics but even I will not jump on your bandwagon because it's barking up the wrong tree. Take that for what you will. Oh: More edits in the post you just quoted.

 

[Train]

So the video above was worded to sensationalize?

And all the others just like it?

And if they really aren't more fragile than other devices, why do you keep telling me how cheap they are too fix?

 

[CZroe]

So the video above was worded to sensationalize?

And all the others just like it?

Unquestionably. Start reading and you will see that every single one compares a device with TWICE as much glass and a MUCH less debilitating failure accounting for the increased failure rate to the iPhone 3GS and earlier. It's not the same and doesn't even compare it to an Android device. My experience tells me that any drop that would shatter an iPhone's back glass would also shatter a typical non-Gorilla Glass Android device's front screen.

You want to counter my anecdote with that sensationalist BS when, even if you count a[n iPhone 4's] cracked back glass the same as a cracked screen, even a large percentage more fragile than the iPhone 3G can still be significantly more durable than competitors.

 

[Train]

Unquestionably. Start reading and you will see that every single one compares a device with TWICE as much glass and a MUCH less debilitating failure accounting for the increased failure rate to the iPhone 3GS and earlier. It's not the same and doesn't even compare it to an Android device. My experience tells me that any drop that would shatter an iPhone's back glass would also shatter a typical non-Gorilla Glass Android device's front screen.

You want to counter my anecdote with that sensationalist BS when, even if you count a cracked back glass the same as a cracked screen, even a large percentage more fragile than the iPhone 3G can still be significantly more durable than competitors.

So you are basically admitting that the iPhone is built less durable than its competitors.

Why are you excluding Gorilla Glass? It's pretty much on everything now.

 

[CZroe]

So you are basically admitting that the iPhone is built less durable than its competitors.

Why are you excluding Gorilla Glass? It's pretty much on everything now.

Because I'm watching and experiencing non-GG Android phones practically exploding on all sides of me in the last two weeks and GG is only on the most expensive flagship phones that usually cost more than the iPhone and don't sell nearly as many units. And re-read again: They only compared the failure rate to the previous iPhone model. They DID NOT compare to competitors. It is entirely possible for it to have a 90% higher failure rate than the previous iPhone and still be more durable than most competitors. GOT IT? Is says exactly the opposite of why you seem to think I'm "admitting." I guess I need to check for typos or something.

EDIT: Nope. Guess you need to read more carefully. Added a *slight* clarification that was not needed (referenced the "back glass" so it was obvious what the subject was).

 

[Train]

Flagship models my ass.

http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#products-with-gorilla

 

[CZroe]

Flagship models my ass.

http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#products-with-gorilla

I've seen that list before. Am I supposed to be surprised at the amount? I ask because it is exactly in line with my expectations or a little less... except for one little surprise you might not like: The HTC Sensation/Pyramid, one of the ones I gave you my anecdote based on experiencing a shattered screen from a mild drop, is Gorilla Glass!

Look at the Samsung list, for example: Galaxy S is the ONLY Android phone they list with Gorilla Glass. That's because Galaxy is their flagship line. LG's flagship was once the Chocolate and Motorola's was once the RAZR. Perhaps you thought that I meant Google's flagship Nexus phones? Not at all. I mean what each Android maker puts in the most competitive position to Apple's current flagship.

Edit: If I'm surprised by anything else, it's that I actually expected MORE Android phones with GG. Seeing you respond that way anyway tells me you are WAY too emotional over this. Just take my anecdotes and information for what it is or leave it. Arguing isn't helping at this point. All I'm saying is that you are wrong to fault iDevices for high fragility/cost of repair and you aren't convincing me otherwise DESPITE me being an Android fan and Apple critic. I've taken apart and repaired dozens of phones. I should know.

 

[ponyo]

Pretty much all phones had/have Gorilla Glass starting with the original Motorola Droid. Samsung used Gorilla glass on Galaxy S but have now switched to their own house brand coating. I guess they're tired of paying royalty to Corning and feel like their glass is comparable.

 

[alent1234]

Flagship models my ass.

http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#products-with-gorilla

the original tech is from the 1960's but hasn't been used until recently

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

My thoughts of Gorilla Glass it that Apple has something similar to Gorilla Glass on their devices already. I think they had it on the iPhone 2G (don't quote me on that I'm not 100% sure).

 

[Ichinisan]

My thoughts of Gorilla Glass it that Apple has something similar to Gorilla Glass on their devices already. I think they had it on the iPhone 2G (don't quote me on that I'm not 100% sure).

No. I had a 3G and 3GS. The screens scratched very easily. Still, I'm not sure if I prefer chemically-hardened glass over the oleo-phobic glass in the 3GS. My i4 always looks nasty unless I've just finished wiping it.

 

[SSSnail]

Hey iPeople, I have had my myTouch 4G for a year and a half now and have dropped it numerous times. The phone, I think, now lives for this sort of thrill. It has very minor scratching that if you don't look carefully, would look brand new.

Now this is a phone that could run circles around the i4 when it came out.

You jelly?

 

[amddude]

Pretty much all phones had/have Gorilla Glass starting with the original Motorola Droid. Samsung used Gorilla glass on Galaxy S but have now switched to their own house brand coating. I guess they're tired of paying royalty to Corning and feel like their glass is comparable.

It's on the Galaxy S II, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

 

[ponyo]

It's on the Galaxy S II, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Galaxy S II is now 7 month old phone. Why don't you check Galaxy Nexus which is 2 month old phone. I said Samsung recently switched. Galaxy S II is old news.

 

[CZroe]

Hey iPeople, I have had my myTouch 4G for a year and a half now and have dropped it numerous times. The phone, I think, now lives for this sort of thrill. It has very minor scratching that if you don't look carefully, would look brand new.

Now this is a phone that could run circles around the i4 when it came out.

You jelly?

The same guy for who I am working on the Sensation was prompted to have it fixed when his T-Mobile MyTouch 3G / HTC Magic quit charging after the USB mini-B connector wore out. Before that, the battery wouldn't make good contact inside without a piece of paper shoved in. Now that I'm investigating his shattered glass, I'm finding that the LCD I already ordered a replacement for is likely perfectly fine except for a capacitor that is known to come off when a Sensation/Pyramid or Desire is dropped. It sounds like they are under tension or touching the chassis, which is VERY poor design.

Also, MyTouch 4G was only released 13 months ago.

I will say though, that other than the cracked screen, the cosmetic drop damage on the Sensation/Pyramid is minimal, but it's what's inside that counts (capacitor!).

 

[SSSnail]

Can you guys imagine if Apple had put cameras on their phone first, or first to have dual thread CPUs, or first to multi-task, or first to have multi browsing, or first with the pull down notification screen, etc...

Shit, we'd all be using Apple phones.

Edit: my bad, 13 months ago... Time flies when you're having fun :awe:

 

[amddude]

Galaxy S II is now 7 month old phone. Why don't you check Galaxy Nexus which is 2 month old phone. I said Samsung recently switched. Galaxy S II is old news.

I didn't realize it happened that recently. I'm with you now.

 

[cheezy321]

Can you guys imagine if Apple had put cameras on their phone first, or first to have dual thread CPUs, or first to multi-task, or first to have multi browsing, or first with the pull down notification screen, etc...

Shit, we'd all be using Apple phones.

Edit: my bad, 13 months ago... Time flies when you're having fun :awe:

I love the phandroids. They always act like they are the 'smart guy' who is better than everyone else and makes all the greatest decisions. Too bad nobody listens to them.

 

[Patranus]

Can you guys imagine if Apple had put cameras on their phone first, or first to have dual thread CPUs, or first to multi-task, or first to have multi browsing, or first with the pull down notification screen, etc...

Shit, we'd all be using Apple phones.

Edit: my bad, 13 months ago... Time flies when you're having fun :awe:

So you are saying that no company has patents that they enforce pertaining to multi thread CPU, multi-tasking, digital cameras, ect.?