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Why Americans do not want to live in communism?

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highland145

Lifer
Oct 12, 2009
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Грамматический определенный член служебный в грамматический определенный член Кремль быть конечно обращаться точно грамматический определенный член тот же самый , нет запертый запас открытый единственный к их к продаваться тот развратник Западный вещи. Они безусловно последователь высшая отметка за классную работу правило яние) от закон , никто всегда идти отсутствующий в Совет Русский , и конечно никто быть всегда грубый пытка. Грамматический определенный член Tu -144 быть сильная форма,грамматически неопределенный член превосходный демонстрировать наглядными примерами яние) от Совет инженерное искусство , он руководить сильная форма,грамматически неопределенный член производящий глубокое впечатление 55 пассажир полет перед бытие повод для безопасность касаться. Он быть должным вспомогательный глагол для образования сложных времен быть грамматический определенный член недостаток яние) от тот Западный dogs! С смотреть на кого-либо,что-либо к воспитание , если грамматический определенный член воспитание быть яние) от очень высокий качество , почему делать грамматический определенный член страна обвал? Этот смешивать меня , товарищ , нравиться объяснять. Как для грамматический определенный член потребление яние) от водка , ты быть должным вспомогательный глагол для образования сложных времен смущенный ваш анютины глазки Русский с грамматический определенный член великий видные люди Совет Соединение , для кому водка быть часто обращаться как вода! Он быть не грамматический определенный член экономический обращение яние) от другой имеющий деревенский вид тот уничтожать сделанное Мать Русский он быть грамматический определенный член полиция яние) от принадлежащий ему диктаторский правительство.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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To all capitalists looking to sell humanity out:
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OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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Oh, I get it. You read yesterday that China is now the only other Superpower besides the US, so you are a little butt-hurt today.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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Russia was not Communist anyhow. How the hell is it Communism if it's a non-democratic un-worker controlled, wage paying, money exchanging, insider profiteering, bureaucratic mess?
Stalinism is croney-capitalism in decline -like fascism.

Socialism must have a democratic foundation, or it's plain not socialist.
Lenin failed, Trotsky failed back in the early 1920s and made a police state out of Russia instead of the first steps of Democratic Socialism to Communism.
It is capitalism in some form. (the default animal state of affairs for the species)
Blame it on Germany and Rosa Luxembourg and all that Soviet propaganda but in the end Russia was a mess and could not maintain a closed society regardless of what the capitalist world did, which is what Lenin and the revolutionaries failed at since the start creating a corrupt police state with feet of clay and a foundation of false hope for workers worldwide.
 

SunnyD

Belgian Waffler
Jan 2, 2001
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We do not blame you, you were deceived lifelong false propaganda. You believed that fighting for the right thing. And you fought. That's good.

If Russian communism was so damn good, it would have found a way to survive. Only China has had more experience and success in brainwashing and controlling its population, which is why it's the only legitimate large communist country left (North Korea and the other remaining communist countries are a lot easier to manage due to being so much smaller in population to control).

But then again, China historically has a long history of being able to control its population.
 

MotF Bane

No Lifer
Dec 22, 2006
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It was a bit more dangerous than conventional aircraft because supersonic, very difficult. But we have banned it, because the safety of people is much more important. Concord is not banned, because greed for money and fame was more about people.

Collapsed because the Soviet Union was an economic blockade against all the capitalist countries. There were more, almost the entire developed world.

We do not blame you, you were deceived lifelong false propaganda. You believed that fighting for the right thing. And you fought. That's good.

Strange, but the Concorde has an excellent safety record. One crash, and it was due to debris left behind by a previous plane. But while we're on the topic of the safety of people... nah, that's too easy.

Oh, so the Soviet Union created an economic blockade against all capitalist countries, and destroyed itself by it? Um, oops?
 

Atreus21

Lifer
Aug 21, 2007
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Russia was not Communist anyhow. How the hell is it Communism if it's a non-democratic un-worker controlled, wage paying, money exchanging, insider profiteering, bureaucratic mess?
Stalinism is croney-capitalism in decline -like fascism.

Socialism must have a democratic foundation, or it's plain not socialist.
Lenin failed, Trotsky failed back in the early 1920s and made a police state out of Russia instead of the first steps of Democratic Socialism to Communism.
It is capitalism in some form. (the default animal state of affairs for the species)
Blame it on Germany and Rosa Luxembourg and all that Soviet propaganda but in the end Russia was a mess and could not maintain a closed society regardless of what the capitalist world did, which is what Lenin and the revolutionaries failed at since the start creating a corrupt police state with feet of clay and a foundation of false hope for workers worldwide.

I like my explanation better:

Communism fails.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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In actuality, I think that the eagle of not trolling. To the West it gave beds and the propaganda and the Soviet Union it was the better. People do not send hungry and there was medicine existing for all. Security and safety.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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If Russian communism was so damn good, it would have found a way to survive. Only China has had more experience and success in brainwashing and controlling its population, which is why it's the only legitimate large communist country left (North Korea and the other remaining communist countries are a lot easier to manage due to being so much smaller in population to control).

But then again, China historically has a long history of being able to control its population.

China isn't Communist.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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I don't know if it's a troll, but if it is, it's brilliant. The "1969" suggests he was 20 years old when the Berlin Wall fell.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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I love that your defence in all of these threads is always, "But that wasn't REAL Communism." I bet you're more of a Khmer Rouge guy.

Facts are facts, read Marx/Bakunin. What Lenin created was not Marxist. Any more then National Socialism was Socialism.

Just because some reactionary blowhard like Rush said he was a Communist and everyone should follow him in revolution does not make him or what he created Communist.

Like it or not the fact is State Capitalism in the Soviet Bloc was not Communist.

Of course both sides, want(ed) to claim former Soviet Russia and these decayed State Capitalist states around like China/Vietnam are Communism for propaganda reasons of their own.

So do right-wingers as yourself. *shrug*
 
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OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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No I doubt Steeplerot is a fan of the Cambodian model. He probably thinks they were too sloppy in their implementation.

I'm guessing he is a fan of Lil' Kim over on the peninsula.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Facts are facts, read Marx/Bakunin. What Lenin created was not Marxist. Any more then National Socialism was Socialism.

Just because some reactionary blowhard like Rush said he was a Communist and everyone should follow him in revolution does not make him or what he created Communist.

Like it or not the fact is State Capitalism in the Soviet Bloc was not Communist.

Of course both sides, want(ed) to claim former Soviet Russia and these decayed State Capitalist states around like China/Vietnam are Communism for propaganda reasons of their own.

So do right-wingers as yourself. *shrug*
Look, if we're going to be pedants Kirstie Alley isn't an ACTUAL real-life pig, but from a practical perspective she fits the bill, right?
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
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This seems like as good a place to ask as any...

Has anyone here ever read "Gorky Park"? I'm thinking of getting the book on Amazon.
 

yllus

Elite Member & Lifer
Aug 20, 2000
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Facts are facts, read Marx/Bakunin. What Lenin created was not Marxist. Any more then National Socialism was Socialism.

When every real-life manifestation of your ideology leads to massive failure, it's safe to say that the idea wasn't very good to begin with.

Keep on dreaming, comrade.