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Why America is 'hated'...a one reason among many..

skeletor

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I've seen it asked here a few times, 'why do people hate America so much?' or why do Europeans feel they're superior to Americans?

For fellow Americans reading this: Imagine a world where the following was true.

Imagine 90% of all movies released in your country are about England. 80% of said movies are of a very similar, not-so-intelligent nature that you, as an educated person, can see appealing to the less intelligent sectors of your society and heavily influencing them. Said movies appeal to the lowest common denominator of society, the TV couch potatoes who influence the ratings, so the TV stations keeping buying English TV shows, cause they seem popular.

Imagine that some of those movies about England changed or skewed historical fact to make England look that little bit braver, that little bit more important.

Imagine that when you turned on your TV 90% of what was on was English programs, starring English people in England. Imagine you saw your son or daughter trying to act like some English person on TV because that was what was 'cool' to do in the schoolyard.

Imagine that many programmes from this Anglo-oriented TV schedule showed lots of very ignorant/under educated English people arguing and fighting, for the sake of ratings.

Imagine that 90% of the music you could listen to on radio was from England, sung by English people, talking about their lives in England.

Imagine that these same singers and movies stars, all from England, thought America and Canada were the same place, and were unconcerned when told otherwise. It doesn't matter to them because their market is England and the rest of the world buys their movies/songs anyway, so who cares right?

Imagine that at every given opportunity English people would assert their right to proclaim how truly great their country was, scoffing at any other country who tried to compare themselves.

Imagine England was one of the single biggest pollutions causing nations, and when the rest of the world tried to take them to task over it, they refused to listen and continued polluting.

Imagine you occasionally met English tourists who were under educated, over weight people who didn't bother educate themselves about your country or it's people. Asking you questions like "So you're from New York? Is that near London?" or <shouting> "My god, these people don't have beefeaters over here!". Imagine that was the stereotype of an English tourist.

Imagine England proclaimed itself the guardian of the world, the world's superpower, and yet occasionally decided to attack other countries for it's own gain but promoted the attack as defence of freedom. Imagine knowing that was a lie and yet having to watch all the aforementioned TV shows and movies all following that lie, trying to convince you it was the truth.

Imagine all of the above and then think about whether or not you'd be quick to lose patience with 'English' people.

Of course this is just from a popular culture viewpoint, it doesn't delve into religious reasoning or how middle eastern countries might feel. Just my 2 cents on the whole 'why do Europeans think they're superior etc' thing.

 
ok thanks, that's not particularly accurate, but I hope it made you feel better to get that off your chest.
 


<< Imagine England proclaimed itself the guardian of the world, the world's superpower, and yet occasionally decided to attack other countries for it's own gain but promoted the attack as defence of freedom. Imagine knowing that was a lie and yet having to watch all the aforementioned TV shows and movies all following that lie, trying to convince you it was the truth. >>

Not to sound too much like Tex, but I'd LOVE to see where America did this. If the U.S. spearheaded a campaign to throw out to Taliban regime in Afghanistan for the real reason of being able to lay an oil pipeline through the area, well gee, aren't they the evil sonsofbitches?
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Also, not too many people in this forum have a problem with Britain. Britain and the U.S. stand by each other no matter what - one of those real oddities of international relations that I'm very thankful for.
 


<< ok thanks, that's not particularly accurate, but I hope it made you feel better to get that off your chest. >>



Not accurate? Really, in what way?
 
<<Imagine England was one of the single biggest pollutions causing nations, and when the rest of the world tried to take them to task over it, they refused to listen and continued polluting.>>

ROTFLMFAO! I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Thanks. Your post was the best sarcasm I have heard in a long time.

ZV

<--Intentionally misunderstanding. (And stealing eakers' bit.)
 
So, basically youre saying everybody hates America because of Born on the Fourth of July, Friends, and Bruce Springsteen? Hey, makes sense to me!!😀
 
"Not accurate? Really, in what way? "

Because it's written in ignorance, if you want further details I'm sure someone with more patience will come along soon and spell it out for you.
 
America is hated cause we are the BEST!!


He said "Beefeaters" ...snicker, snicker.. (or snigger, snigger.. which ever you prefer}
 


<< Also, not too many people in this forum have a problem with Britain. Britain and the U.S. stand by each other no matter what - one of those real oddities of international relations that I'm very thankful for. >>


I think it's our common dislike of continental Europe 😉
 


<< I've seen it asked here a few times, 'why do people hate America so much?' or why do Europeans feel they're superior to Americans?

For fellow Americans reading this: Imagine a world where the following was true.
>>



This outta be good.



<< Imagine 90% of all movies released in your country are about England. 80% of said movies are of a very similar, not-so-intelligent nature that you, as an educated person, can see appealing to the less intelligent sectors of your society and heavily influencing them. Said movies appeal to the lowest common denominator of society, the TV couch potatoes who influence the ratings, so the TV stations keeping buying English TV shows, cause they seem popular. >>



If that were reality I would be dissappointed in my own country.



<< Imagine that some of those movies about England changed or skewed historical fact to make England look that little bit braver, that little bit more important. >>



LOL If you are going to claim this, you better be specific about your reasoning. This BS answer isn't going to cut it.



<< Imagine that when you turned on your TV 90% of what was on was English programs, starring English people in England. Imagine you saw your son or daughter trying to act like some English person on TV because that was what was 'cool' to do in the schoolyard. >>



uh so.... My counsin pretended he was a ninja when he was a kid, that didn't make me hate Asia.



<< Imagine that many programmes from this Anglo-oriented TV schedule showed lots of very ignorant/under educated English people arguing and fighting, for the sake of ratings. >>



I would feel sorry for them.



<< Imagine that 90% of the music you could listen to on radio was from England, sung by English people, talking about their lives in England. >>



Like everything else here, thats MY CHOICE.



<< Imagine that these same singers and movies stars, all from England, thought America and Canada were the same place, and were unconcerned when told otherwise. It doesn't matter to them because their market is England and the rest of the world buys their movies/songs anyway, so who cares right? >>



LOL Now you are generalizing about those people. And its completely WRONG.



<< Imagine that at every given opportunity English people would assert their right to proclaim how truly great their country was, scoffing at any other country who tried to compare themselves. >>



LOL Another lie. Like America is the only one with National pride. But please continue. LOL



<< Imagine England was one of the single biggest pollutions causing nations, and when the rest of the world tried to take them to task over it, they refused to listen and continued polluting. >>



Imagine a treaty that gives a pass to two countries over one BILLION each who are well on their way of outstripping America.

Boy you really need to read more before looking like a fool.



<< Imagine you occasionally met English tourists who were under educated, over weight people who didn't bother educate themselves about your country or it's people. Asking you questions like "So you're from New York? Is that near London?" or <shouting> "My god, these people don't have beefeaters over here!". Imagine that was the stereotype of an English tourist. >>



Once again do not generalize an entire nation bya few tourists.

Every coutnry has bad seeds that leave their home country.



<< Imagine England proclaimed itself the guardian of the world, the world's superpower, and yet occasionally decided to attack other countries for it's own gain but promoted the attack as defence of freedom. Imagine knowing that was a lie and yet having to watch all the aforementioned TV shows and movies all following that lie, trying to convince you it was the truth. >>



LOL Yet ANOTHER lie. Europe for example begged us to join in WW2 and most recently get rid of the problem in Eastern Europe.



<< Imagine all of the above and then think about whether or not you'd be quick to lose patience with 'English' people. >>




You mean take conjecture, generalizations, and outright LIES and compare them? LOL



<< Of course this is just from a popular culture viewpoint, it doesn't delve into religious reasoning or how middle eastern countries might feel. Just my 2 cents on the whole 'why do Europeans think they're superior etc' thing. >>




Let me give you some more thoughts.

Imagine England covering your asses in Europe in case another War breaks out.

Imagine England being the LARGEST donator of food and clothing in the world.

Imagine England being the largest contributor of finantial aid in the world.



Imagine you answering each of my points. But I doubt it. 🙂
 


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<< Not to sound too much like Tex, but I'd LOVE to see where America did this >>



Kuwait.
>>



LOL Wrong AGAIN! England, Germany and Russia just to name a few participated in that war.

You really need to read more.
 


<< "Not accurate? Really, in what way? "

Because it's written in ignorance, if you want further details I'm sure someone with more patience will come along soon and spell it out for you.
>>



Hi! 😀
 
This from the country who produced Absolutely Fabulous and sends people to jail for life for self defense.

What ever.
 


<< Imagine all of the above and then think about whether or not you'd be quick to lose patience with 'English' people. >>

I would wonder why my country was so stupid and backwards that it couldn't make its own movies that aren't about England.
 
skeletor:

Seriously, here's the big problem with your argument:

I am Canadian and live in Canada. We like the Americans a lot, although we are even more inundated with thier media, attitude, etc than anyone else. We love them for their generous nature, compassion for man, and care for the world - not to mention the effect their love of life, freedom, and the pursuit of happiness have had. They are by far the most peaceful, generous, and friendly people I know.

My wife is a born and raised Honduran. Her country also loves America... same as above.

My aunts and uncles are Brits - and live there still. They too love Americans - same as above.


America is like a loud, brash, but lovable and generous brother. Yeah he can get on your nerves, but you love him for all the good, and put up with the annoying. In the end, they are family.
 


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<< Not to sound too much like Tex, but I'd LOVE to see where America did this >>



Kuwait.
>>

skeletor, I can sort of see your point of view, but speaking respectfully, it's still flawed. You're missing a realistic look at the world.

America is the number one consumer of oil, much of that coming from the region Kuwait is situated in. As a very basic logistical concern, you need to keep that oil flowing to keep the people and industry of your country moving, right? Getting along fabulously with the rulers of the country is second to serving the needs of your countrymen - why the hell should outside countries have to care about anything that goes on in the region except for how it serves them? Starting to care means risking the lives of your own people and that's not a step taken lightly by any country anymore. You pay for your ideology with soldiers' lives. Don't forget that except for a few dozen religious nutzoids, Kuwait is out there to do business just like every other country in the world. They WANT to sell to America.

Everything else is just posturing and selling the plan to the average-IQ constituents. Really, anyone who racks up 100+ posts at this forum should know better.
 
Imagine England proclaimed itself the guardian of the world, the world's superpower, and yet occasionally decided to attack other countries for it's own gain but promoted the attack as defence of freedom. Imagine knowing that was a lie and yet having to watch all the aforementioned TV shows and movies all following that lie, trying to convince you it was the truth.

Dude you are so full of $hit!

The only thing you need to imagine is the world with out the great USA, it would be a F**ked up place....
Just think of all those backwards 3rd world countries running around stating $hit with the country next to them and someone not jumping in and stoping them...
 


<< Let me give you some more thoughts.

Imagine England covering your asses in Europe in case another War breaks out.
>>



Well firstly, well done reading the start of my post where I said 'fellow' americans. Got it? Good. Regarding the war, you really think Hitler/Germany would have stopped at taking Europe?




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Imagine England being the LARGEST donator of food and clothing in the world. Imagine England being the largest contributor of finantial aid in the world.
>>



I wasn't saying America has never done any good, of course it has/does. However I was merely trying to explain why Europeans sometimes, repeat <SOMETIMES> dislike Americans. Your reaction just goes to strengthen those views. I've lived in Europe for many years and I know that my original post is fact, not fiction not matter how much you say it it. More importantly perhaps, many Europeans <believe it to be so>, so whether it's strictly true or not doesn't matter.

I expected this from someone with such a patriotic sig, my original post wasn't meant for people like you.


 


<< America is like a loud, brash, but lovable and generous brother. Yeah he can get on your nerves, but you love him for all the good, and put up with the annoying. In the end, they are family. >>




Wow thats good.
 


<< I expected this from someone with such a patriotic sig, my original post wasn't meant for people like you. >>



Jesus. If you are going to hide in a corner like a coward when faced with a real opposing viewpoint then this isn't the forum for you.
 
Good point but as a Canadian I can say: So?

Yes, most movies are from America about Americans. I go to them and theaters in Canada show them. Why? Because canada's film industry is a joke. It sucks and I don't care for the movies. I like most of the movies made in America. If Canada had the actors and money and industry to cater to what most of us, the masses, enjoy to watch, then we'd be watching Canadian movies, but instead the Canadian movies are lame, poorly acted, lacking in budget, etc. I imagine England is probably the same.

America does not push its movies on England. if england doesn't want them it doesn't get them, but English people do like them because for entertainment value (yes historically most of them are not great) they are the best.
 


<< Imagine that 90% of the music you could listen to on radio was from England, sung by English people, talking about their lives in England. >>

well, maybe not 90%, but the beatles, pink floyd, led zeppelin, rolling stones, elton john, and tons of other english bands, singers, and other musicians get a ton of play over here.
 
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