Ok, all you mental retards, stop with Islam/Muslim bashing. To me - a Muslim immigrant, it just seems that Americans need a common enemy every few years. Prior to your Islamophobia, all of you were perpetually in fear of the Red Army/Communism. Do you all not have better things to do that stir up hatred based on wild theories and premises that even I as a Muslim have never, ever heard?
You can quote all sorts of historical precedences where nations of Muslim majority have acted out in (by your perception) uncivilized manner, or supported acts of terrorism. No country, race, religion is free from its bad elements. The United States ITSELF is committing an act of terror in Iraq. So the difference is we use million dollar weapons, while the opposite side uses human bombs. I'd say the opposite side has move conviction and valor than our forces because they are fighting to free the land of an occupier.
For those who pull out the Palestine/Israel conflict, it is almost laughable how you all blame one side while the other is portrayed as the saint. For those who dont know history, Israel has OCCUPIED Palestine land. The Palestinians have been fighting to regain their occupied land. If a Palestinian straps on a bomb on his body and blows himself up in a cafe, there's an IDF "soldier" who shoots a 13 year old unarmed girl, and then proceeds to "confirm" the kill. Both sides have been at fault, but no, if anyone says something about Israel, he/she is an anti-Semite, but if a Muslim tries to defend his/her religion and people, they're terrorists apologists
And for those cretins who keep pointing to 9/11, that act was committed by NINETEEN people. There are over 7 million Muslims in the US of A. Have they rammed planes into buildings since they've moved to this country? Or committed an act of violence or terror? Oh, but they're "good" Muslims who are moderate and preach human kindness and blah blah blah. The "bad" Muslims preach hatred and violence. This may come as a shocker to you, but bad people preach violence and hatred, not members of a certain race or religion.
Lastly, regarding those who keep pointing most terrorists are Muslims, but the last time I check the world history, Muslims were more terrorised than any other people of any other religion. Lets start counting the regions where Muslims have suffered tremendously:
* Afghanistan - Soviet occupation for years, over a MILLION killed, subsequent sanctions leading to complete degeneration of infrastructure, widespread poverty, poorest nation in the world. Afghans dead
* Chechnya - Small little republic, Russian forces have FLATTENED Grozny, troops routinely rape women, torture is common, read www.bbcnews.com Chechnyans dead
* Bosnia - There's another thread with information about 7,000 Muslims were massacred at Srebrenica. thread Many more were killed. There's videos about Serbian soldier playing football (soccer) with a child's head they just cut off, in front of his mother.
* Iraq - The clearest example of American terror, where we spin the events to portray Iraqi people as terrorists, people like Moqtada Al Sadr. 10000+ civilians killed by estimates. If this is not terror, I dont know how YOU all define it. I never even heard of Zarqawi before this invasion. And hey, now he's the terrorist.
* Palestine - people downtrodden by an occupied force for over 50 years. Without absolving them of the blame, they have received more than enough of punishment from the Israeli government in the past 50+ years. In the last 4 years alone, over 3000 Palestinians have been killed by Israel/IDF. I dont think all 3000 were suicide bombers.
* Kashmir - According to former State Minister of Kashmir, Farooq Abdullah?s 1996 statement estimated 50,000 killings "since the beginning of the uprising." People have still never been given the right to exercise their freedom of choice, and approximately 600000 Indian soldiers are stationed in Kashmir.
So in the past 20 years alone, over a million Muslims have been killed. So who is the terrorist now?
You can quote all sorts of historical precedences where nations of Muslim majority have acted out in (by your perception) uncivilized manner, or supported acts of terrorism. No country, race, religion is free from its bad elements. The United States ITSELF is committing an act of terror in Iraq. So the difference is we use million dollar weapons, while the opposite side uses human bombs. I'd say the opposite side has move conviction and valor than our forces because they are fighting to free the land of an occupier.
For those who pull out the Palestine/Israel conflict, it is almost laughable how you all blame one side while the other is portrayed as the saint. For those who dont know history, Israel has OCCUPIED Palestine land. The Palestinians have been fighting to regain their occupied land. If a Palestinian straps on a bomb on his body and blows himself up in a cafe, there's an IDF "soldier" who shoots a 13 year old unarmed girl, and then proceeds to "confirm" the kill. Both sides have been at fault, but no, if anyone says something about Israel, he/she is an anti-Semite, but if a Muslim tries to defend his/her religion and people, they're terrorists apologists
And for those cretins who keep pointing to 9/11, that act was committed by NINETEEN people. There are over 7 million Muslims in the US of A. Have they rammed planes into buildings since they've moved to this country? Or committed an act of violence or terror? Oh, but they're "good" Muslims who are moderate and preach human kindness and blah blah blah. The "bad" Muslims preach hatred and violence. This may come as a shocker to you, but bad people preach violence and hatred, not members of a certain race or religion.
Lastly, regarding those who keep pointing most terrorists are Muslims, but the last time I check the world history, Muslims were more terrorised than any other people of any other religion. Lets start counting the regions where Muslims have suffered tremendously:
* Afghanistan - Soviet occupation for years, over a MILLION killed, subsequent sanctions leading to complete degeneration of infrastructure, widespread poverty, poorest nation in the world. Afghans dead
* Chechnya - Small little republic, Russian forces have FLATTENED Grozny, troops routinely rape women, torture is common, read www.bbcnews.com Chechnyans dead
* Bosnia - There's another thread with information about 7,000 Muslims were massacred at Srebrenica. thread Many more were killed. There's videos about Serbian soldier playing football (soccer) with a child's head they just cut off, in front of his mother.
* Iraq - The clearest example of American terror, where we spin the events to portray Iraqi people as terrorists, people like Moqtada Al Sadr. 10000+ civilians killed by estimates. If this is not terror, I dont know how YOU all define it. I never even heard of Zarqawi before this invasion. And hey, now he's the terrorist.
* Palestine - people downtrodden by an occupied force for over 50 years. Without absolving them of the blame, they have received more than enough of punishment from the Israeli government in the past 50+ years. In the last 4 years alone, over 3000 Palestinians have been killed by Israel/IDF. I dont think all 3000 were suicide bombers.
* Kashmir - According to former State Minister of Kashmir, Farooq Abdullah?s 1996 statement estimated 50,000 killings "since the beginning of the uprising." People have still never been given the right to exercise their freedom of choice, and approximately 600000 Indian soldiers are stationed in Kashmir.
So in the past 20 years alone, over a million Muslims have been killed. So who is the terrorist now?
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