I may be wrong (it's hard to read into the tone of a written word), but it seems to me that this thread wasn't written with the best intentions for an intelligent discussion. I mean no disrespect Visa2, but your statement is a bit narrow.Originally posted by: Visa2
The ati got us the best card in the market again ,this is a very big blow for Nvidia again and for all
this nvidia harcorefans I like that.
Dude, a green stool is not good, you should go get that check out. The same with your videocards is worse - any stool from them isn't a good thing .Originally posted by: Gog
Today my stool is green, tomorrow brown... the same with Videocards. Although I do think that ATi will be on the upswing this year because of them being the first ones out the door with such an impressive directx9 card. True the NV30 will be a .13 directx9 card, but Ati is planning to respond with a .13 varient of the 9700 by then. I truely think that the ball is in ATi's court this year when it comes to the high end... it may be a different story thou when it comes to the mid end.
Radeon 8500 64MB beat out the GF3 Ti500 with a small margin and a hell of alot more features like ATi always adds.Originally posted by: jiffylube1024
"the best card in the market again" ... when did ATI last have the best card? The Rage Pro? They haven't been the decisive leaders in terms of 3d graphics (post 3dfx Voodoo graphics) ever, not like how the 9700 is superior to the current GF4 Ti4600.
Minor Victory? Ive seen this crap about how great the Ti4600 is .... o yea for raw speed and that crappy QxAA it has? Now this is a HUGE VICTORY for ATi .... destroying the GF4 in anything ..... i mean did you see what Hardocp.com said:I agree that this is a win for competition, and a minor victory for ATI. This may be a blow to Nvidia and its hardcore fanbase's egos, but rest assured this will make them more focused on trouncing ATI and the rest the next time. I don't see any point in choosing sides in the war (in terms of rooting for anyone), I say whoever makes the best card for the right price when I'm about to buy deserves my business, but I'm not going to say the other side's products are crap or laugh when they get beaten to the punch with a release..
Just my $.02
Kicked its ass with AA/AF on and the Ti w/o it on .... thats not good for you? Sheesh ....Benchmarks:
UT2003 - 1600x1200x32; 4XAA; 16XAF ? The Radeon 9700 doused the Ti4600 by about 25%. Now get a load of this, that is with the GF4 running without AA or AF. With 4XAA turned on the Ti4600 was crushed by nearly 300%. The Radeon 9700 simply made quick work of the Ti4600 under this UT2003 demo.
3DMark2001 ? Using the default benchmark at 10x7 with no AA nor AF turned on, the Radeon 9700 exceeded the Ti4600?s score by approximately 20%. Where most of the score boost came from was the Nature demo as the Radeon 9700 was posting frame rates of right at 200% of the Ti4600 numbers.
Comanche 4 Demo - 1600x1200x32; 4XAA; 16XAF ? Again, approximately 25% ahead of the Ti4600 with the Ti running no AA or AF compared to the full on settings of the Radeon 9700.
Last, but certainly not least, a benchmark we don?t use as it is made by NVIDIA, tweaked by NVIDIA, and configured for NVIDIA hardware, the Chameleon demo. At 1600x1200, the Radeon 9700 doubled the Ti4600 scores.