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Whole foods finds out about Weights & Measures

They also have a systematic problem of overcharging for food, but that side of it is legal and simply marketing to the ignorant about "natural" and "organic".
 
"The overcharges were especially prevalent in packages that had been labeled with exactly the same weight when it would be practically impossible for all of the packages to weigh the same amount," said the city's statement.
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Look it's "Whole" Foods - that means you pay for the whole pound whether or not a whole pound is there, none of this fractional sh!t!
 
drebo said:
Consumers are stupid so the business must be doing something wrong?

Typical liberal bullshit.
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You're right, consumers should have their own calibrated balance with them and verify the weight of everything they buy, shame on them for believing a company would truthfully mark the weight of their products!
 
Brainonska511 said:
Idiot. Whole Foods was found to systematically mismeasuring the weights of products and subsequently overcharging people.
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The article is talking about putting 1lb of product in a package that could hold 2lb and calling that "misrepresenting the amount of product."

People who can't read shouldn't be engaging in commerce. Read the fucking box. It tells you exactly how much you're getting.
 
drebo said:
The article is talking about putting 1lb of product in a package that could hold 2lb and calling that "misrepresenting the amount of product."

People who can't read shouldn't be engaging in commerce. Read the fucking box. It tells you exactly how much you're getting.
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Yeah. Speaking of people who can't read 🙄
Second link in OP
The investigation looked at products that are weighed and labeled and found a "systematic problem" whereby customers were routinely overcharged for things like nuts, snack foods, poultry and other grocery products. Eight packages of chicken tenders—priced at $9.99 per pound—were inaccurately priced and labeled to the tune of a $4.13 overcharge to the customer per package, a store profit of $33.04 for the set. DCA says one package was overpriced as much as $4.85. "Additionally, 89 percent of the packages tested did not meet the federal standard for the maximum amount that an individual package can deviate from the actual weight, which is set by the U.S. Department of Commerce."
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drebo said:
The article is talking about putting 1lb of product in a package that could hold 2lb and calling that "misrepresenting the amount of product."

People who can't read shouldn't be engaging in commerce. Read the fucking box. It tells you exactly how much you're getting.
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So if the box says 2lb and then I actually weigh it and it really weighs 1.83lb, who's at fault?

Because that's the situation the articles in the OP are describing.
 
Brainonska511 said:
They also have a systematic problem of overcharging for food, but that side of it is legal and simply marketing to the ignorant about "natural" and "organic".
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With this latest round of publicity I, again, went to a typical supermarket last night to price compare against Whole Foods.

I like peanut butter that is simply smashed up peanuts with a little oil to make it spreadable and some salt for seasoning. Exact same price, $3.99, between the two stores. I like honey crisp apples. $3.99 /lb vs. 3.59 /lb at WF. There is a pretty big difference to me in smell/taste between "organic" chicken breast and the packaged Tyson stuff so I don't mind paying a little more. Same price at both stores, $6.99. I did save a buck on a bag of mini carrots compared to WF.

I eat meat, vegetables, and fruit, which most of the cheaper stuff at the other store isn't. So I don't see where the overcharging for food really comes from. I'm not a hippy or loyal to any store. I shop where I find what I want at a reasonable price at a convenient location.
 
As a liberal, I have, and continue to hate whole foods and their overpriced crap. Much better to go to Aldi, or if you are a yuppster, then Costco, Sams, or Trader Joe.
 
Humpy said:
With this latest round of publicity I, again, went to a typical supermarket last night to price compare against Whole Foods.

I like peanut butter that is simply smashed up peanuts with a little oil to make it spreadable and some salt for seasoning. Exact same price, $3.99, between the two stores. I like honey crisp apples. $3.99 /lb vs. 3.59 /lb at WF. There is a pretty big difference to me in smell/taste between "organic" chicken breast and the packaged Tyson stuff so I don't mind paying a little more. Same price at both stores, $6.99. I did save a buck on a bag of mini carrots compared to WF.

I eat meat, vegetables, and fruit, which most of the cheaper stuff at the other store isn't. So I don't see where the overcharging for food really comes from. I'm not a hippy or loyal to any store. I shop where I find what I want at a reasonable price at a convenient location.
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I can go to my local produce stand for stuff: Apples: $0.79-0.99/lb, berries, in season, are frequently $1-$2/package, etc...

And my regular grocery store, the easiest way to shop is to just use the circular. Avoid things that aren't "on sale". When I've walked around WF and saw the prices on everything, my eyes nearly popped out of my head when looking at the prices.
 
Humpy said:
So I don't see where the overcharging for food really comes from. I'm not a hippy or loyal to any store. I shop where I find what I want at a reasonable price at a convenient location.
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I am going to assume that, like the vast majority of grocery prices, it is extremely location dependent. By me if you compare Kroger to WF you will find that Kroger is cheaper on a great many items, esp when they are on sale. During the summer pineapple is pretty consistently $1/pp while the lowest WF 'sale' price I've seen is $2.89

(On a side note I find it odd that I can get pineapple for $1 here in Michigan but in Hawaii we never saw it lower than $3 even in the local stores away from the touristy areas)
 
Packages of berries, going for $8.58
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what the hell?
Seriously?

Exterous said:
(On a side note I find it odd that I can get pineapple for $1 here in Michigan but in Hawaii we never saw it lower than $3 even in the local stores away from the touristy areas)
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Maybe they're importing it too because demand is very high so prices are inflated (for hotels and restaurants fruit is pretty much fungible).
This happens to fish in certain mediterranean coastal areas too.
 
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I don't like Whole Foods. Whenever I have to be in there and buy like a lunch item, I'm amazed at how much the people in front of me ring up. $100s of dollars on their grocery bills for items that fit into just one bag....sigh... Oh and their lunch items are crap.

But surprisingly people are really really loyal to their grocery stores. Its like the one thing that they won't change.
 
Brainonska511 said:
I can go to my local produce stand for stuff: Apples: $0.79-0.99/lb, berries, in season, are frequently $1-$2/package, etc...

And my regular grocery store, the easiest way to shop is to just use the circular. Avoid things that aren't "on sale". When I've walked around WF and saw the prices on everything, my eyes nearly popped out of my head when looking at the prices.
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The same mostly applies to Whole Foods about sales and out of season stuff. Sometimes fruit is crazy expensive so I skip it. The prepared foods are about the same price as a restaurant. So many of the sale items at Smith's (Kroger) seems to be chips and bread and frozen/packaged food which we don't eat much of.

Overall, WF is probably ~ 5 - 10% more expensive for me than my other options, but it's just my wife and I, we don't buy in bulk because of waste, and the location saves time. I sometimes feel like a douche for shopping there but it doesn't feel extravagant.
 
drebo said:
The article is talking about putting 1lb of product in a package that could hold 2lb and calling that "misrepresenting the amount of product."

People who can't read shouldn't be engaging in commerce. Read the fucking box. It tells you exactly how much you're getting.
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As far as telling you exactly how much you're getting, the labels don't actually have to be exact. But, they have a maximum deviation that's allowed. So, say it says 1 pound. Then anything from 452 to 456 grams might be allowed. But, Whole Foods is off by much more than what is allowed - and generally in the wrong direction for consumers.

Incidentally, why'd you stop responding after people used quotes to point out how wrong you were?
 
maddogchen said:
I don't like Whole Foods. Whenever I have to be in there and buy like a lunch item, I'm amazed at how much the people in front of me ring up. $100s of dollars on their grocery bills for items that fit into just one bag....sigh... Oh and their lunch items are crap.

But surprisingly people are really really loyal to their grocery stores. Its like the one thing that they won't change.
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That's $100 that I would rather put in the bank. Screw making businesses like WF and Starbucks rich. I've gotten to the point in my life that I will cut cost as much as possible. Make the food at home and put what you've saved into an account. It's not hard!

WF is populated mostly by yuppies who like to waste money. I used to take my uncle there when I was taking care of him. We'd get a few items and I was always amazed that the bill was over $100. Sometimes hovering around the $200 mark. And for what? 2 bags full of organic produce!

I'm also not bought on organic food. I was taught the best way to prep my veggies/fruits is to spray them w/ vinegar. That's going to kill most of the residue that resides on the plants.
 
Mai72 said:
I'm also not bought on organic food. I was taught the best way to prep my veggies/fruits is to spray them w/ vinegar. That's going to kill most of the residue that resides on the plants.
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That makes no sense. What are you talking about?

"Organic" is simply a process defined by law and regulated by the USDA. Only certain naturally-derived pesticides are allowed and no GMO plants. It says nothing to the safety of those "natural" pesticides, amount applied, nutritional content, "sustainability" for growing, how long the item will last after picking, etc...
 
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