Whole foods finds out about Weights & Measures

[Mai72]

That makes no sense. What are you talking about?

"Organic" is simply a process defined by law and regulated by the USDA. Only certain naturally-derived pesticides are allowed and no GMO plants. It says nothing to the safety of those "natural" pesticides, amount applied, nutritional content, "sustainability" for growing, how long the item will last after picking, etc...

I was taught that if I sprayed vinegar on my fruits/ veggies that I could take off most of the pesticides on them. Was I taught wrong?

http://goodgreenhabits.com/wash-your-fruits-veggies-with-vinegar/

Fortunately, you can drastically reduce your exposure to pesticides and bacteria found on produce with a thorough vinegar and water wash. Experts found that a white vinegar and water wash kills 98% of bacteria and removes pesticides.

 

[Brainonska511]

I was taught that if I sprayed vinegar on my fruits/ veggies that I could take off most of the pesticides on them. Was I taught wrong?

http://goodgreenhabits.com/wash-your-fruits-veggies-with-vinegar/

Rinsing your fruits and veggies will remove residue, but spraying vinegar is likely more important for limiting fungus growth and slow rotting.

But as for the amount of pesticide residue - the amount allowed in food is ridiculous small. The amount of unwashed fruits and vegetables you'd have to eat to meat the maximum allowed daily intake is usually ridiculous high.

 

[Sonikku]

As far as telling you exactly how much you're getting, the labels don't actually have to be exact. But, they have a maximum deviation that's allowed. So, say it says 1 pound. Then anything from 452 to 456 grams might be allowed. But, Whole Foods is off by much more than what is allowed - and generally in the wrong direction for consumers.

Incidentally, why'd you stop responding after people used quotes to point out how wrong you were?

I think he's done.

 

[Belegost]

Well, it's obvious you're a liberal that can't read. /s

You're probably right; if I read the proper way I would understand that when MegaCorp puts 2lb on the package they are defining the very meaning of two pounds - thus if my balance came out with a figure not 2lb I need to re-calibrate my balance until it does.

 

[Mai72]

Rinsing your fruits and veggies will remove residue, but spraying vinegar is likely more important for limiting fungus growth and slow rotting.

But as for the amount of pesticide residue - the amount allowed in food is ridiculous small. The amount of unwashed fruits and vegetables you'd have to eat to meat the maximum allowed daily intake is usually ridiculous high.

I appreciate the info. Thanks.

 

[DesiPower]

Its getting real at the whole food charge a lot

 

[MarkXIX]

I don't understand the "justification" that WF appears to be using that there were part-timers who didn't know the standards. How in the fuck can you not know that 2 pounds of chicken tenders should weigh 2 pounds when you package it? Fuck, the employees probably purchase the shit from there too, you'd think they'd keep themselves honest for sake of the also being a consumer.

 

[sdifox]

I don't understand the "justification" that WF appears to be using that there were part-timers who didn't know the standards. How in the fuck can you not know that 2 pounds of chicken tenders should weigh 2 pounds when you package it? Fuck, the employees probably purchase the shit from there too, you'd think they'd keep themselves honest for sake of the also being a consumer.

employees are easy to blame and fire.

 

[CountZero]

Interesting, when I worked at Whole Foods in WA I was in charge of weights and measures compliance. Used to do my own audits of the departments. Never had any issues, if anything they consistently used a higher than necessary tare for the packaging. Also meat was weird in the way those little soak up pads counted against it, you had to use a tare that would account for whatever soaked into the pad.

As to the justification some people are dumb and probably don't even notice that the label has a weight on it. Doesn't excuse WF though, they should be trained correctly. Hope they get nailed with a sizable fine.

 

[ponyo]

This is theft. Punishment should be percentage of their annual sales times 3x

 

[shortylickens]

Consumers are stupid so the business must be doing something wrong?

Typical liberal bullshit.

Liberals have no clue what Value means. They dont understand economics. They dont understand budgets. And they really love spending money they dont have on shit they dont need. Whole Foods is a prime example.
You can eat perfectly healthy from Bottom Dollar, and spend the money you save on real health insurance instead of making the government spread the wealth.


HAVING SAID ALL THAT:

The cocksuckers at whole food were fudging the weights. Customers were NOT getting what they paid for.
Thats a fuckin crime. It needs to be investigated and prosecuted.

 

[Mai72]

Liberals have no clue what Value means. They dont understand economics. They dont understand budgets. And they really love spending money they dont have on shit they dont need. Whole Foods is a prime example.
You can eat perfectly healthy from Bottom Dollar, and spend the money you save on real health insurance instead of making the government spread the wealth.

Reminds me of a quote by Jim Rohn:

You don't get paid by the hour, you get paid by the value you bring to the marketplace.

He was basically saying if you want to increase you pay, you need to bring some type of value to the marketplace. How? Increase your skill set. Learn another language. Take classes.

In regard to money spent foolishly, why not invest it? Imagine going to whole foods for the next 30 years? That's going to cost you a fortune. Why not invest it, so in 30 years you can reap the benefits instead of making someone else wealthy.

 

[KeithP]

Whole Foods has issued a statement blasting the DCA's allegations:
“We disagree with the DCA’s overreaching allegations and we are vigorously defending ourselves. We cooperated fully with the DCA from the beginning until we disagreed with their grossly excessive monetary demands. Despite our requests to the DCA, they have not provided evidence to back up their demands nor have they requested any additional information from us, but instead have taken this to the media to coerce us. Our customers are our number one stakeholder and we highly value their trust in us.”

Given the vast majority of the press never even mentions the other stores caught doing the same thing I am thinking there might be something to what Whole Foods is saying here.

-KeithP

 

[CountZero]

Liberals have no clue what Value means. They dont understand economics. They dont understand budgets. And they really love spending money they dont have on shit they dont need. Whole Foods is a prime example.
You can eat perfectly healthy from Bottom Dollar, and spend the money you save on real health insurance instead of making the government spread the wealth.

I find it hilariously sad that we can't even have a discussion about a grocery store with moronic P&N crap seeping in. Pathetic. Been watching this forum circle the drain for the last couple of years and it isn't surprising given the quality discourse.

 

[zinfamous]

Liberals have no clue what Value means. They dont understand economics. They dont understand budgets. And they really love spending money they dont have on shit they dont need. Whole Foods is a prime example.

you're being stupid again. why are the poorest states, with the poorest rural communities, so very conservative?

and

You can eat perfectly healthy from Bottom Dollar,

no, no you can't. that's just, just...no. a Spaghetti-O's and onion diet really isn't a good idea.

and spend the money you save on real health insurance instead of making the government spread the wealth.

again, very dumb. As bad as you may think it is, currently, the ACA is by far the best implementation of health insurance this country has yet seen. Health is still a colossal mess here, but that isn't really the fault of the ACA, which has already quite drastically reduced costs across the board and will only continue to do so, now that the states in dumbfuckistan have been bitch-slapped a 3rd time to get in line and join the modern world.

HAVING SAID ALL THAT:

The cocksuckers at whole food were fudging the weights. Customers were NOT getting what they paid for.
Thats a fuckin crime. It needs to be investigated and prosecuted.

finally, something worth reading.

 

[Jeff7]

HAVING SAID ALL THAT:

The cocksuckers at whole food were fudging the weights. Customers were NOT getting what they paid for.
Thats a fuckin crime. It needs to be investigated and prosecuted.

finally, something worth reading.

And if it is indeed accurate that the new people are poorly trained, the next ones in the food chain are their managers, who are (allegedly) responsible for the actions of those under their supervision.

At work, we had some enclosures come back from a contract manufacturer with faulty welds. They weren't properly wetted or melted to both surfaces. The joint on one side was fine, but the bead didn't make full contact with the other side. "We did just get a new guy in the welding department, he might not have been fully trained yet." (It was surprising they actually said that, flat-out like that.) After they remade the entire batch, that was also the last time any welded assemblies were ordered from them.

Yes, maybe it truly was a new guy who screwed up. But that also shows that you have a system (or lack of one) that permits badly flawed products to ship to customers, and potentially cause a safety hazard after installation. Not good.


As for me, if I screw up something and word of it gets to upper management, my supervisor is the one who catches hell about it from them, not me directly. He in turn can elect, depending on what got messed up and how it happened, to either defend me, or else pass along the giving of hell. (I'm not in the habit of screwing up though.)

 

[darkswordsman17]

Yeah this is bullshit. Hope Whole Foods gets hammered over this. Their explanation is bullshit as well.

Liberals have no clue what Value means. They dont understand economics. They dont understand budgets. And they really love spending money they dont have on shit they dont need. Whole Foods is a prime example.
You can eat perfectly healthy from Bottom Dollar, and spend the money you save on real health insurance instead of making the government spread the wealth.


HAVING SAID ALL THAT:

The cocksuckers at whole food were fudging the weights. Customers were NOT getting what they paid for.
Thats a fuckin crime. It needs to be investigated and prosecuted.

Seriously shut the fuck up with your constant dumbshit political garbage. You've gotten really bad about spouting off with this bullshit.

And If you think conservatives are any better then you're just straight up delusional. See Brownback's economic "experiment" in Kansas or Reagan's trickle-down economics (of course they're the same thing and despite it's total utter failure conservatives are still trying to push trickle-down economics). Or how many fiscal conservatives refuse to cut our massively bloated military budget (even when the military themselves tell them to, like say when we're in the midst of a worldwide financial crisis, nope we need more tanks!).

I also know plenty of conservatives that do exactly what you describe (spend out the ass on organic and other health shit). Some are even worse as they don't see how they could save massively on medical bills if they'd take their health seriously (plenty of diehard conservatives around here that have total shit health because they drink excessively, use tobacco, and eat like shit and only go to the hospital when something there's a major issue and then bitch that it costs a lot of money to deal with cancer or diabetes or any number of other ailments that are common from their lifestyle).

There's fiscal (and health) dumbshits across the entire political spectrum.

With this latest round of publicity I, again, went to a typical supermarket last night to price compare against Whole Foods.

I like peanut butter that is simply smashed up peanuts with a little oil to make it spreadable and some salt for seasoning. Exact same price, $3.99, between the two stores. I like honey crisp apples. $3.99 /lb vs. 3.59 /lb at WF. There is a pretty big difference to me in smell/taste between "organic" chicken breast and the packaged Tyson stuff so I don't mind paying a little more. Same price at both stores, $6.99. I did save a buck on a bag of mini carrots compared to WF.

I eat meat, vegetables, and fruit, which most of the cheaper stuff at the other store isn't. So I don't see where the overcharging for food really comes from. I'm not a hippy or loyal to any store. I shop where I find what I want at a reasonable price at a convenient location.

What is a "typical supermarket"? Sounds like there's something wrong in your comparisons. I'm not saying you're absolutely wrong, but that sounds off. Are you sure the sizes were the same?

Another thing to keep in mind a lot of supermarkets it's kinda been well known that you should rarely pay normal price for stuff. Grocery shopping has been based around sales for decades upon decades now. Now you might not want to bother with that, but you should absolutely be able to save money quite easily shopping around. And likewise you might have gotten used to the Whole Foods versions and feel it suits your tastes, which that's fine.

 

[shortylickens]

Hey buddy?
Hey?

You are a whiny little child. And you're so full of logical fallacies I'm not even gonna discuss it with you.


Jerk.

 

[miri]

class action lawsuit?

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...iming-overpaying-false-food-article-1.2271949

 

[Humpy]

What is a "typical supermarket"? Sounds like there's something wrong in your comparisons. I'm not saying you're absolutely wrong, but that sounds off. Are you sure the sizes were the same?

Another thing to keep in mind a lot of supermarkets it's kinda been well known that you should rarely pay normal price for stuff. Grocery shopping has been based around sales for decades upon decades now. Now you might not want to bother with that, but you should absolutely be able to save money quite easily shopping around. And likewise you might have gotten used to the Whole Foods versions and feel it suits your tastes, which that's fine.

The other store in this case was Kroger. I'm certain the peanut butter for example was a direct comparison. I spent way too much time looking at the different options. There was plenty of inexpensive Skippy type and some with jelly or marshmallow crap mixed in. I just needed straight up peanut butter. I settled on the $3.99 / 16oz jar of "Simple Truth" as it was the closest I could find to what I wanted. It still has sugar and I'm disappointed in it.

Easily 99% of everything in Kroger is not useful to me. Plenty of Doritos, Red Baron pizza, Nutty Bars, Bud Light, Ragu, and 5 lb tubes of 73% ground beef on sale, but very few basic quality food items in quantities sized for two people. The produce section was plenty good but the rest of the store would be a struggle to eat out of.

Considering time and distance and everything else we always seem to end up back at the evil Whole Foods with all the other cunts that shop there.