Whoever thought of adding calcium to OJ was a marketing genius

[Bateluer]

Since i saw that calcium added to orange juice many years ago, I now buy alot more OJ than milk. Heck, i dont think i've bought any milk this year.

Whatever the reason calcium was added to OJ, it got me to pick OJ over milk.

OJ industry +1, Milk 0

I can't pour OJ on my morning cheerios.

 

[Deeko]

Then you'd be posting in your grave. I didn't spend 25 hours studying milk and its effects on heart disease for nothing.

Anyone that claims to have done a lot of scientific research should know that you do not use absolutes like that when it comes to health. That's a painfully ignorant practice.

For starters, the subject of a study might *raise the risk* of a certain health issue, but there are plenty of mitigating factors that can alter whether or not that issue actually occurs.

Secondly, studies of food vs health are useless anyway. Every six months there's something new that's going to kill us. Every three months a new study comes out that reverses the findings ofa previous one.

So, basically, I'm going to continue drinking my 2% milk, and I predict the chances of me dying in my 50s from it are exceedingly slim.

 

[HannibalX]

I can't pour OJ on my morning cheerios.

Can't or won't?

 

[OCGuy]

His bones are looking a little brittle....

http://img.timeinc.net/time/quotes/2008/09/0916_simpson.jpg

 

[dainthomas]

1 + 1 = 2, KT

I prefer an adult meal for breakfast (when I bother to make breakfast).

An "adult meal"? Is that something to do with edible lube?

 

[MJinZ]

Anyone that claims to have done a lot of scientific research should know that you do not use absolutes like that when it comes to health. That's a painfully ignorant practice.

For starters, the subject of a study might *raise the risk* of a certain health issue, but there are plenty of mitigating factors that can alter whether or not that issue actually occurs.

Secondly, studies of food vs health are useless anyway. Every six months there's something new that's going to kill us. Every three months a new study comes out that reverses the findings ofa previous one.

So, basically, I'm going to continue drinking my 2% milk, and I predict the chances of me dying in my 50s from it are exceedingly slim.

Caloric content:

Whole or 4% Milk Fat 46%
2% Milk Fat 35%
1% Milk Fat 20%
Skim or Nonfat 0%

Dude, don't state the obvious. This is OT forums, everything is exaggerated but you get my point. Drinking milk fat while trying to stay healthy is like eating Whoppers and trying to lose weight.

 

[biggestmuff]

You can get more calcium by eating a serving of greens or some vegetables than by having a serving of milk. How do you think the calcium gets into the milk in the first place?

 

[Aikouka]

I usually drink Simply Orange (no pulp) and I've tried it with calcium and I simply don't like the taste.

 

[biggestmuff]

Then you'd be posting in your grave. I didn't spend 25 hours studying milk and its effects on heart disease for nothing.

As I read the thread, I could tell you were trolling for a comment to call you out on your milk knowledge, but THIS is what you post? LOL

Step back folks, he spent a whole day studying milk. :biggrin:

 

[Deeko]

Caloric content:

Type of Milk Calories from Fat Whole or 4% Milk Fat 46% 2% Milk Fat 35% 1% Milk Fat 20% Skim or Nonfat 0%

I really hope you didn't do 25 hours of research to inform us that milk has more calories from fat, and will therefore kill you by 50. Was this research for a pre school class, then?

 

[OCGuy]

We need Skim Milk to comment on this to be sure.

 

[HannibalX]

There is only one kind of milk... Moo Cow Fuck Milk...

 

[MJinZ]

As I read the thread, I could tell you were trolling for a comment to call you out on your milk knowledge, but THIS is what you post? LOL

Step back folks, he spent a whole day studying milk. :biggrin:

LOL, I did this like 4 years ago in college as a thesis to a Epidemiology class. Yes, it was very extensive and yes, drinking in fat fat fat (saturated fat) is very bad for your health.

I don't have it saved anymore, but I will impart to you all the stupidity of drinking milkfat.

 

[Kirby]

Both have their purposes.

Milk/Cream for white russians
OJ for screwdrivers

 

[HannibalX]

I really hope you didn't do 25 hours of research to inform us that milk has more calories from fat, and will therefore kill you by 50. Was this research for a pre school class, then?

I think he got his research data from this guy. :awe:

 

[rockyct]

Milk is a lot better for you than OJ overall. Fat free milk that is. 1% or 2% Milk will give you a heart-attack.

^ Based on my College Epidemiology thesis.

The funny thing is that I've grown up on fat free milk, so even now when I buy my own milk, I can only drink fat free milk. If I drink 1 or 2%, I need a glass of water with it.

 

[MJinZ]

I think he got his research data from this guy. :awe:

If common sense doesn't save you, it will kill you. Have fun drinking in liters of fat every month. Just don't blame the cow when you inevitably develop heart or vascular problems.

 

[Nik]

An "adult meal"? Is that something to do with edible lube?

While your boyfriend probably appreciates reading your "inside joke" over your shoulder as you typed it, I prefer something hot for breakfast.

Steak & eggs are great to get your day going.

 

[HannibalX]

If common sense doesn't save you, it will kill you. Have fun drinking in liters of fat every month. Just don't blame the cow when you inevitably develop heart or vascular problems.

The troll is strong with this one. :thumbsdown:

 

[James Bond]

Caloric content:

Whole or 4% Milk Fat 46%
2% Milk Fat 35%
1% Milk Fat 20%
Skim or Nonfat 0%

Dude, don't state the obvious. This is OT forums, everything is exaggerated but you get my point. Drinking milk fat while trying to stay healthy is like eating Whoppers and trying to lose weight.

?

I've been drinking a lot of milk lately since I'm trying to bulk up. Am I going to die?

 

[Zebo]

Well I can't drink milk so yeah genius. I drink trop pure premium with bacon and eggs almost every morning. Also take a 500mg calcium supplement morning and night,

 

[Zebo]

If common sense doesn't save you, it will kill you. Have fun drinking in liters of fat every month. Just don't blame the cow when you inevitably develop heart or vascular problems.

Shit don't hurt you if you get heart pumping hard each day for about an hour. All systems work great to expunge and metabolize.

 

[GoSharks]

LOL, I did this like 4 years ago in college as a thesis to a Epidemiology class. Yes, it was very extensive and yes, drinking in fat fat fat (saturated fat) is very bad for your health.

I don't have it saved anymore, but I will impart to you all the stupidity of drinking milkfat.

General Milk:

Conclusions: These results give no convincing evidence of an increased risk of vascular disease from milk drinking. Rather, the subjects who drank more than the median amount of milk had a reduced risk of an ischaemic stroke, and possibly a reduced risk of an ischaemic heart disease event. These conclusions are in agreement with the results of a previously reported overview of 10 large, long term cohort studies based on food frequency intake records.

http://jech.bmj.com/content/59/6/502.abstract

Conclusions: Cohort studies provide no convincing evidence that milk is harmful. While there still could be residual confounding from unidentified factors, the studies, taken together, suggest that milk drinking may be associated with a small but worthwhile reduction in heart disease and stroke risk.

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v58/n5/abs/1601869a.html


Milkfat related:

CONCLUSIONS No evidence was found that men who consumed milk each day, at a time when most milk consumed was full fat milk, were at increased risk of death from all causes or death from coronary heart disease.

http://jech.bmj.com/content/55/6/379.abstract

Conclusion:
Our study suggests that intake of dairy fat or some other component of dairy products, as reflected by C15:0 as marker in adipose tissue, may protect persons at increased risk from having a first MI, and that the causal effects may rely on other factors than serum cholesterol.

http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v60/n2/abs/1602307a.html

Abstract: Milk and milk products are nutritious food items containing numerous essential nutrients, but in the western societies the consumption of milk has decreased partly due to claimed negative health effects. The content of oleic acid, conjugated linoleic acid, omega-3 fatty acids, short- and medium chain fatty acids, vitamins, minerals and bioactive compounds may promote positive health effects. Full-fat milk has been shown to increase the mean gastric emptying time compared to half-skimmed milk, thereby increasing the gastrointestinal transit time. Also the low pH in fermented milk may delay the gastric emptying. Hence, it may be suggested that ingesting full-fat milk or fermented milk might be favourable for glycaemic (and appetite?) regulation. For some persons milk proteins, fat and milk sugar may be of health concern. The interaction between carbohydrates (both natural milk sugar and added sugar) and protein in milk exposed to heat may give products, whose effects on health should be further studied, and the increasing use of sweetened milk products should be questioned. The concentration in milk of several nutrients can be manipulated through feeding regimes. There is no evidence that moderate intake of milk fat gives increased risk of diseases

http://www.lipidworld.com/content/6/1/25

The role of dairy fat in the aetiology of myocardial infarction (MI) is controversial. The aim of this study was to evaluate the association between intake of dairy fat and dairy products, and risk of a first acute MI. A total of 111 MI patients with a first acute MI and 107 population controls (men and women, age 45–75 years) were studied. Diet was assessed using a 180-item food frequency questionnaire. The MI cases had higher intake of total fat, but lower intake of saturated fat and dairy fat than the control persons. No effect of dairy fat or saturated fat on the odds ratio for MI was observed, however. A significant inverse trend in odds of MI for intake of cheese was observed, but the trend was no longer significant after adjustment for smoking. The results suggest that intake of fat from dairy products may not be associated with increased risk of having a first MI. The healthy control persons had a diet that differed from the diet of the MI patients in many aspects, and dairy products were a part of this diet. This may have protected them from having a first MI.

http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/abstract/27/6/723S

WTF were you researching MJinZ?

 

[Mike Gayner]

I don't buy either one all that often. Neither is a great source of calcium. If you want calcium, eat meat.

lolwut? Milk is an excellent source of calcium. Don't leave school.

 

[BlackTigers]

GOMAD with whole milk, FTFW.

Come at me, heart disease. Lmfao.