Whoa! New type of space drive discovered

[Paratus]

I hate to say it, but I'm leaning towards an error in the measuring equipment right now. The lab that's doing this is only funded with a $50000 grant. How exact can their equipment be?

I don't know their budget, but I did see their labs and both experiments, (Q-thruster & the warp field interferometer) last year. They have access to equipment JSC already has. The warp field experiment was mounted in a seismically isolated room used for Apollo for example. The problem is the low budget means things aren't going to be tested very quickly and equipment they don't have will take awhile to procure. (Again in my opinion only)

 

[Paratus]

I'lol also mention now that I've refreshed my memory that the torsion beam balance used for the q-thruster tests was sensitive enough to pickup the footfalls of people leaving the building and tides hitting the beach a few miles away. So it's plenty sensitive....

 

[cytg111]

Been lurking those threads at nasaspaceflight forums since thread1, some very capable smart and resourceful people are taking this very serious. At this very moment we may be witnessing this phenomenon gaining critical mass to the level where mainstream established and conventional science and institutions will have to adopt and adapt to the idea of this might actually be *something*.

From the horses mouth:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36313.1740

Experimental data like what just came out of the Eagleworks Lab's latest warp-field interferometer tests based on 27,000, 1.5 second long on/off data samples that indicates we have finally observed the first spacetime contraction effects that we are fairly confident are the real deal.

*IF* this turns out to be real, if we, human kind, are on the verge of understanding how to command the next element, space, to make it (pun incoming) bend to our will, then shit is about to get crazy. Okay, lets define "about", - give it 10-20 years of actual financed research and this could be (more pun)'going places'.
Could also be our extinction event. Anyway, interesting times ahead. Perhaps. As always, fascinating time to be alive .

 

[Ichinisan]

What's the latest?

 

[Paratus]

I haven't heard anything new. The latest NASA space flight forum thread at the link above probably has the latest (you may have to search for the next numbered thread since they stop it when it gets too long)

I haven't heard anything more at work about it.

 

[Phoenix86]

https://hacked.com/scientists-confirm-impossible-em-drive-propulsion/

"Our measurements reveal thrusts as expected from previous claims after carefully studying thermal and electromagnetic interferences," note the researchers. "If true, this could certainly revolutionize space travel.

The nature of the thrusts observed is still unclear."


Note that underlined part. The measured output matched the theoretical formulas.

 

[Paratus]

https://hacked.com/scientists-confirm-impossible-em-drive-propulsion/

"Our measurements reveal thrusts as expected from previous claims after carefully studying thermal and electromagnetic interferences," note the researchers. "If true, this could certainly revolutionize space travel.

The nature of the thrusts observed is still unclear."


Note that underlined part. The measured output matched the theoretical formulas.

I'm not saying it's true but that's the fifth independent group to find anomalous thrust.

 

[Jaskalas]

One thruster is producing 72g of thrust from no propellant is significant. Scale that up a couple thousand times and you're going places fast.

Energy = Thrust... combine that with a fusion reactor and we'll achieve meaningful space travel within our solar system.

 

[Jeff7]

Great, so it seems to work, but we don't know why.

We're the Pakleds from ST:TNG.

- "We look for things."
"What sort of things?"
- "Things we need."
"Can you be more specific?"
- "Things to make us go. We need help."

We made a thing that might make us go.

 

[Ichinisan]

Great, so it seems to work, but we don't know why.

We're the Pakleds from ST:TNG.

- "We look for things."
"What sort of things?"
- "Things we need."
"Can you be more specific?"
- "Things to make us go. We need help."

We made a thing that might make us go.

Poor Geordi

Guy can't catch a break.

(I wish that video didn't get pulled from YouTube)

 

[Phoenix86]

I'm not saying it's true but that's the fifth independent group to find anomalous thrust.

Exactly. I'm OK with not understanding why, that'll come. What I'm really excited about (aside from additional verification) is the output matching theoretical calculations.

 

[Phoenix86]

Great, so it seems to work, but we don't know why.

We're the Pakleds from ST:TNG.

- "We look for things."
"What sort of things?"
- "Things we need."
"Can you be more specific?"
- "Things to make us go. We need help."

We made a thing that might make us go.

Relevant

People box+sky bag air+fire comes out here (gonna have to rework this description) and maybe we will space today.

 

[halik]

https://hacked.com/scientists-confirm-impossible-em-drive-propulsion/

"Our measurements reveal thrusts as expected from previous claims after carefully studying thermal and electromagnetic interferences," note the researchers. "If true, this could certainly revolutionize space travel.

The nature of the thrusts observed is still unclear."


Note that underlined part. The measured output matched the theoretical formulas.

Finding anomalous thrust ~= theoretical model is veeeeery interesting. Obviously if this pans out, it's the greatest scientific discovery of our lifetime.

 

[Ichinisan]

My groin is producing anomalous thrust.

 

[Ruptga]

Finding anomalous thrust ~= theoretical model is veeeeery interesting. Obviously if this pans out, it's the greatest scientific discovery of our lifetime.

I don't know about you, but I plan on living another 40 or 50 years. It seems a bit premature to be calling that kind of thing. But still, if results like that keep coming in we might just see some pretty awesome tech being used 20 years from now. It's a long road from partially proven theory to reliable and practical tool. Plus we have to power it, and with all of the crying and bedwetting that the word nuclear always causes, that won't be trivial either.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Funnily enough, this is popping back up in news feeds today, but this article makes me sad.

http://www.iflscience.com/no-em-drive-will-not-lead-warp-travel-any-time-soon

Another..pointless article.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/07/28/impossible-em-propulsion-engine-confirmed-by-scientists

 

[manimal]

I'm not saying it's true but that's the fifth independent group to find anomalous thrust.

i got wet

 

[Jaskalas]

If it works, it's because it's pushing against something.
Is that "something" an inherent property of Earth? Thinking magnetic or gravitational fields.
Will this thrust be observable in space, outside the influence of our planet? :hmm:

 

[Thebobo]

Yeah, so... As soon as we stop spending billions & billions every year to entitlement programs, pointless warfare, and fixing tax loop holes, I don't see us being able to afford those top minds. Unless top minds work for free these days...

It's sad to think we could be so close, but yet so far with one of the main limiting factorings being lack of budget.

Rather not have top minds being so greedy as they need to worry about being "top." So they get a good pay and do something great for mankind, would be all I need to be fulfilled.

 

[William Gaatjes]

This will be a new discovery in any which way but i wonder if it will be as what they had in mind... :hmm:

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Rather not have top minds being so greedy as they need to worry about being "top." So they get a good pay and do something great for mankind, would be all I need to be fulfilled.

Agreed our obsession with wealth is concerning. Reality is a few hundred thousand per year is far more than adequate for 99.9999% of us.

 

[Phoenix86]

Rather not have top minds being so greedy as they need to worry about being "top." So they get a good pay and do something great for mankind, would be all I need to be fulfilled.

 

[Thebobo]

ECat EmDevice

 

[Franz316]

Anyone know what theoretical speeds we are talking with a scaled up version? I saw some articles mention making it to Saturn in 3 months which is quite impressive.

 

[Phoenix86]

Anyone know what theoretical speeds we are talking with a scaled up version? I saw some articles mention making it to Saturn in 3 months which is quite impressive.

Read one article that said 70 days to Mars which shocked me. I underestimated the whole infinate ISP thing.