Who would you say is the most fundamentally sound basketball player?

[stuman19]

My vote is Ray Allen.

 

[meltdown75]

Grant Hill

 

[tfinch2]

Tim Duncan. Shaq doesn't call him the Big Fundamental for nothing.

 

[Patt]

Um ... hello? Tim Duncan.

Edit: damn, beat to it.

Ok then, I'll say Richard Hamilton.

 

[Vilica]

uh.. Tim Duncan?
aka "The Big Fundamental", as Mr. Bill Walton calls him

 

[DainBramaged]

Tim Duncan. :thumbsup:

 

[stuman19]

I would say that you guys are thinking fundamental in terms of size but not as a whole. No way Duncan is half as fundamentally sound as the smooth Ray Allen.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: stuman19
I would say that you guys are thinking fundamental in terms of size but not as a whole. No way Duncan is half as fundamentally sound as the smooth Ray Allen.

Yeah he is. Ray allen can't dribble and does not have some of the fundamental defensive or offensive moves. He has never been a great defender and is certainly not good at rebounding.

Smooth and fundamentally sound are not the same thing.

 

[necine]

Originally posted by: stuman19
I would say that you guys are thinking fundamental in terms of size but not as a whole. No way Duncan is half as fundamentally sound as the smooth Ray Allen.

You're crazy or don't know basketball.

 

[stuman19]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: stuman19
I would say that you guys are thinking fundamental in terms of size but not as a whole. No way Duncan is half as fundamentally sound as the smooth Ray Allen.

Yeah he is. Ray allen can't dribble and does not have some of the fundamental defensive or offensive moves. He has never been a great defender and is certainly not good at rebounding.

Smooth and fundamentally sound are not the same thing.

Ray Allen can't dribble? Can't imagine how that is true. I agree that smooth and fundamentally sound are not the same thing. He is not the best rebounder, but I don't think rebounding really is included in fundamentals. He can jump and that is fundamentals. His size limits his rebounding ability. Defense is somewhat not the best, but can get the job done.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: stuman19

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: stuman19
I would say that you guys are thinking fundamental in terms of size but not as a whole. No way Duncan is half as fundamentally sound as the smooth Ray Allen.

Yeah he is. Ray allen can't dribble and does not have some of the fundamental defensive or offensive moves. He has never been a great defender and is certainly not good at rebounding.

Smooth and fundamentally sound are not the same thing.

Ray Allen can't dribble? Can't imagine how that is true. I agree that smooth and fundamentally sound are not the same thing. He is not the best rebounder, but I don't think rebounding really is included in fundamentals. He can jump and that is fundamentals. His size limits his rebounding ability. Defense is somewhat not the best, but can get the job done.

LOL, jumping is not part of fundamentals.

 

[Homerboy]

I wouldnt even say Jordan was Fundamental
Duncan is by far the more funamentally sound (big name) that plays the game. Ray Ray probably has the sweetest shot though... why... WHY did my Bucks trade him...

 

[Kev]

kevin garnett and of course lebron james.

i don't know how you can call duncan "mr fundamental" - he can't even hit freethrows, and you don't get much more fundamental than that.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Kev
kevin garnett and of course lebron james.

i don't know how you can call duncan "mr fundamental" - he can't even hit freethrows, and you don't get much more fundamental than that.

Kevin Garnett is pretty fundamental, but it really didn't quite work out for him this season.

Lebron? I didn't know 25 ft fadeaway threes were considered fundamental...hahahaha.

 

[iamme]

fundamentals are the basic parts of the game: shooting, passing, dribbling, rebounding, defense, etc.

tim duncan is always regarded as fundamentally sound because of his unflashy, relatively "boring" game.

ray allen doesn't really do it on the defensive end, so he's sort of one dimensional to me.

 

[Homerboy]

Ill give you KG but not James. James is the same catagory as Jordan IMHO

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: Homerboy
Ill give you KG but not James. James is the same catagory as Jordan IMHO

yeah, Lebron has a very good all around game, but i'm not sure if that means he's fundamentally sound. although his outside shooting has gotten better.

 

[destined]

the obvious answer is:
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[amoeba]

I think Jason Kidd is a pretty fundamental PG.

 

[se7en]

Originally posted by: Patt
Um ... hello? Tim Duncan.

Edit: damn, beat to it.

Ok then, I'll say Richard Hamilton.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: amoeba
I think Jason Kidd is a pretty fundamental PG.

jason kidd can't shoot. shooting is a pretty fundamental part of basketball.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: stuman19

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: stuman19
I would say that you guys are thinking fundamental in terms of size but not as a whole. No way Duncan is half as fundamentally sound as the smooth Ray Allen.

Yeah he is. Ray allen can't dribble and does not have some of the fundamental defensive or offensive moves. He has never been a great defender and is certainly not good at rebounding.

Smooth and fundamentally sound are not the same thing.

Ray Allen can't dribble? Can't imagine how that is true. I agree that smooth and fundamentally sound are not the same thing. He is not the best rebounder, but I don't think rebounding really is included in fundamentals. He can jump and that is fundamentals. His size limits his rebounding ability. Defense is somewhat not the best, but can get the job done.

Well your definition of fundamentally sound is basically whatever ray allen has then, because it's not what anyone else uses for a definition. Rebounding, as in the ability to rebound, box out, time your jump, etc. are all fundamental skills. Jason Kidd is shorter than ray allen, plays point guard, always runs a fast break, and still is a SIGNIFICANTLY better rebounder than ray allen.

Ray allen can dribble enough to move around with the ball, but he often loses his dribble in a crowd, way more than anyone else, and he frequently loses track of the ball when he's dribbling behind his back.

He also is nowhere near the pick and roll, or heck even pick, player.

Also want to note I've never seen ray allen make a bank shot, which tim duncan does at least once a game intentionally.

Duncan's free throws are a mental problem. Unlike say shaq or anthony mason, or ben wallace.

 

[destined]

all fundamental team:
duncan
kg
someone else
kobe
nash

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: destined
all fundamental team:
duncan
kg
someone else
kobe
nash

nash plays no defense.....that's 50% of basketball.

 

[destined]

Originally posted by: iamme

Originally posted by: destined
all fundamental team:
duncan
kg
someone else
kobe
nash

nash plays no defense.....that's 50% of basketball.

well i think he is one of the most fundamental pg's around... maybe kidd too.