Who will Kamala pick as VP?

[evident]

Looks like the pick is coming pretty soon. Then they're probably going to live on the road till November.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1818305437906682292

I still think they should keep everyone in suspense to draw buzz up to the DNC. Free publicity and keeps trumps out of the headlines

 

[K1052]

I still think they should keep everyone in suspense to draw buzz up to the DNC. Free publicity and keeps trumps out of the headlines

Virtual roll call is coming up on the 7th I think and they need to get them out campaigning non-stop so an announcement in the next few days is kinda necessary.

 

[HomerJS]

So the people burning down buildings and destroying property had no responsibility? Anyway, that wasn't the point. The point is Walz was very late in calling out the National Guard and consequently the situation got completely out of hand. If Walz is the VP candidate, every Rep ad will be sure to show a clip of the third precinct burning.

Derrick Cauvin was the catalyst.
Covid was the catalyst for inflation
Trump and the big lie were the catalysts for Jan 6.

What is late? Show us that timeline. Otherwise, how do we know you just aren't parroting some Trump talking point.

 

[nickqt]

Beshear is young, straight, and white. And he's a governor from a "southern" state.

Kelly has the military/astronaut stuff, from a swing state.

Buttigieg is probably one of the best speakers out there right now. He can "normalize" Democratic talking points and point out how weird Republicans are, all while being a white guy who also happens to be gay.

Any of the above would be great picks.

 

[Stokely]

I've heard it said that one problem with Pete is that he's too smart. For me that's a huge plus, electing someone intelligent--but this country has gotten so anti-intellectual that this might be true. People want someone as dumb as them to go have a beer with to run the country. Insanity if you ask me, but look at GWB and Trump.

He'd be my pick if the choice was up to me and there was no consideration about swing states or demographics or mouthbreathers who don't like gay or smart people...

 

[pete6032]

I'm kinda rooting for Walz out of the last three.

I'm hoping not Walz. They can attack him for presiding over one of the highest tax states in the nation and attack him for handling of George Floyd incident, and attack him for lack of experience. I'm not saying any of those attacks are fair, but that's what they will focus on. Dems also need someone who is more charismatic than Walz.

 

[Brovane]

I've heard it said that one problem with Pete is that he's too smart. For me that's a huge plus, electing someone intelligent--but this country has gotten so anti-intellectual that this might be true. People want someone as dumb as them to go have a beer with to run the country. Insanity if you ask me, but look at GWB and Trump.

He'd be my pick if the choice was up to me and there was no consideration about swing states or demographics or mouthbreathers who don't like gay or smart people...

In my opinion, Pete is very intelligent but he doesn't come across as talking down to people. He takes a question and then answers in a way that is relatable to the average person.

 

[ondma]

I'm hoping not Walz. They can attack him for presiding over one of the highest tax states in the nation and attack him for handling of George Floyd incident, and attack him for lack of experience. I'm not saying any of those attacks are fair, but that's what they will focus on. Dems also need someone who is more charismatic than Walz.

I agree 100% with the first two points. Glad to find someone who finally agrees. Not sure lack of experience will be a serious problem, but that is a minor point. Even with his vulnerabilities aside, I dont see what Walz brings to the ticket. I read that Kamala's staff seems to think he will appeal to rural voters and solidify the blue wall, but that is a dangerous misconception. Walz currently presides over a liberal trifecta, and only wins in MN because of strong support in the metropolitan areas. He lost nearly every one of the rural counties in outstate MN, against a horrible Rep ticket.

 

[Moonbeam]

I've heard it said that one problem with Pete is that he's too smart. For me that's a huge plus, electing someone intelligent--but this country has gotten so anti-intellectual that this might be true. People want someone as dumb as them to go have a beer with to run the country. Insanity if you ask me, but look at GWB and Trump.

He'd be my pick if the choice was up to me and there was no consideration about swing states or demographics or mouthbreathers who don't like gay or smart people...

Me too and regardless of those facts.

 

[ondma]

Derrick Cauvin was the catalyst.
Covid was the catalyst for inflation
Trump and the big lie were the catalysts for Jan 6.

What is late? Show us that timeline. Otherwise, how do we know you just aren't parroting some Trump talking point.

The timeline of Walz calling out the National Guard is easily available. Google it. Of course, as is his way, Walz blames mayor Frey for the delay, which only increased my disrespect for him (Walz).

 

[gothuevos]

Makes me want Shapiro as the VP pick even more.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4800359-kamala-harris-josh-shapiro-andy-beshear-tim-walz/

 

[MrSquished]

I'm hoping not Walz. They can attack him for presiding over one of the highest tax states in the nation and attack him for handling of George Floyd incident, and attack him for lack of experience. I'm not saying any of those attacks are fair, but that's what they will focus on. Dems also need someone who is more charismatic than Walz.

Walz is way more charismatic than Kelly for example.

 

[evident]

Makes me want Shapiro as the VP pick even more.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4800359-kamala-harris-josh-shapiro-andy-beshear-tim-walz/

Shapiro is my governor and he's been excellent with reaching across party lines but there are two huge issues for potential voters (not really for me as i think he can help win PA):

1. He's staunchly pro israel so that would alienate the voters sympathizing with palestinians.

2. He's also vaguely pro school vouchers so that would hurt his standing with teacher unions. He managed to get a state budget passed this year which funnelled alot of funding to public schools without giving additional funds to charter schools though but rumors are was that he did at some point received funding from Jeff Yass who is a huge billionaire backing cyber charter schools and other shitty ideas. In general it's a little bit murky but there are some openings there for some dems to not want to support him.

Shapiro's school voucher record gets renewed scrutiny as Harris seeks running mate • Pennsylvania Capital-Star

Gov. Josh Shapiro's support of school vouchers without delivering has drawn criticism from supporters and opponents of school choice.

penncapital-star.com

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/new...-has-big-plans-for-pa-governors-race/3072118/

 

[IronWing]

So the people burning down buildings and destroying property had no responsibility? Anyway, that wasn't the point. The point is Walz was very late in calling out the National Guard and consequently the situation got completely out of hand. If Walz is the VP candidate, every Rep ad will be sure to show a clip of the third precinct burning.

If cops are murdering the people they were entrusted to serve, they need their lair burned down.

 

[Udgnim]

I've heard it said that one problem with Pete is that he's too smart. For me that's a huge plus, electing someone intelligent--but this country has gotten so anti-intellectual that this might be true. People want someone as dumb as them to go have a beer with to run the country. Insanity if you ask me, but look at GWB and Trump.

He'd be my pick if the choice was up to me and there was no consideration about swing states or demographics or mouthbreathers who don't like gay or smart people...

If Pete spoke in a way that people viewed as smart but hard to follow then that could be a problem, but from the limited clips & quotes I've seen from Pete, he is able frame things in clear & digestible parts.

I shouldn't be surprised that because he is able to answer questions in an understandable manner that makes sense, some people Pete as too smart compared to the junk rhetoric they are accustomed to consuming.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

An interesting swing:

"Though he offered no further explanation, The New York Times reported that Cooper had concerns that Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson, a pro-Trump Republican, would try to assume control of the state if he left.

The Times, citing two people familiar with the situation, said Cooper didn't think Robinson would be successful but was worried the attempt would be an unnecessary disruption."

Harris' running-mate list is narrowing after 2 top contenders ruled themselves out

Kamala Harris' VP options were narrowed as Roy Cooper and Gretchen Whitmer withdrew, leaving Josh Shapiro and Mark Kelly among the contenders.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[ondma]

Walz is way more charismatic than Kelly for example.

You mean he is a typical smarmy, two faced politician who will say whatever he thinks will gain political expediency and then blame someone if something goes wrong? Yea, that I would agree with. Of course with the political landscape of today, he might be a great fit. He does project this image of a back slapping good ol' country boy, but that is not who he is, and I am sure the Reps will find that out quickly and attack his liberal policies if Walz is the nominee. And again, didnt the Dems look at the rural votes in MN in the last election? Walz lost virtually every outstate rural county, and the Reps had a couple of crazies on the ticket.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

^^^ That's pretty typical. Gretch didn't do well out state, nor did Andy.

 

[MrSquished]

Is this guy @gothuevos's slightly less neurotic cousin?

 

[Puffnstuff]

Looks like the pick is coming pretty soon. Then they're probably going to live on the road till November.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1818305437906682292

They have to be announced by August 7th to be on the ticket.

 

[brycejones]

You mean he is a typical smarmy, two faced politician who will say whatever he thinks will gain political expediency and then blame someone if something goes wrong? Yea, that I would agree with. Of course with the political landscape of today, he might be a great fit. He does project this image of a back slapping good ol' country boy, but that is not who he is, and I am sure the Reps will find that out quickly and attack his liberal policies if Walz is the nominee. And again, didnt the Dems look at the rural votes in MN in the last election? Walz lost virtually every outstate rural county, and the Reps had a couple of crazies on the ticket.

Living in a rural county in MI. The Democrats could run Jesus Christ and he would get crushed in rural counties. It's mostly a team sport here and they could give two shits about policy.

 

[iRONic]

^^^ That's pretty typical. Gretch didn't do well out state, nor did Andy.

JHC… you’re constantly just as wrong as @gotnoeggs !

AB polls extremely high nationally.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...most-popular-democratic-governor/74530648007/

https://pro.morningconsult.com/trackers/governor-approval-ratings

Beshear the Democratic darling: With a 65% approval rating, Andy Beshear of Kentucky, who is among a cadre of Democratic governors viewed as the party’s rising stars, remains the most popular of the bunch.

 

[ondma]

^^^ That's pretty typical. Gretch didn't do well out state, nor did Andy.

I have basically nothing better to do, so I actually looked it up.
Shapiro won 24% of counties, Whitmer 22%, and Walz 15%. So yea, you have a point, but Walz is still considerably behind the other two.

As an aside, just think how dominant the Dems could be if they somehow could win back even 10 or 20 percent more of the rural vote. I mean the party in Minnesota is the Democratic, FARMER, LABOR party, two of which they have managed to drive to the Reps.

 

[MrSquished]

I have basically nothing better to do, so I actually looked it up.
Shapiro won 24% of counties, Whitmer 22%, and Walz 15%. So yea, you have a point, but Walz is still considerably behind the other two.

As an aside, just think how dominant the Dems could be if they somehow could win back even 10 or 20 percent more of the rural vote. I mean the party in Minnesota is the Democratic, FARMER, LABOR party, two of which they have managed to drive to the Reps.

I'm glad you are not advising the Dems right now. You can't pick your candidate based upon appealing to extremists on the other side. This is just a recipe for disaster.

 

[Pens1566]

Shapiro would just need to run up big #s in the metro areas (PIT, PHI) and maintain respectable #s in the rest of the state.

Doesn't matter how many counties he "wins". That's a shit metric ...