Who will be VP on McCain ticket? McCain/Huckabee

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
Huck is a nut, but evangelical nuts still love the guy.....

Fixed.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

You link me to that speech and I will point out how you took what he said out of context.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=52&threadid=2142910

See the second bolded paragraph. That's pretty tough to take out of context. As I said in that thread - he can propose those constitutional bans all he wants, that's not my issue, my issue is his rationale that he explains very clearly.

So... he is talking about what I was talking about. He just is open about why he believes what he believes and isn't going to lie or deceive people or leave it out.

So you dismiss him because of his reasons behind it, even though all the other candidates are in agreement?

Robor: In general you would be against a ban on abortion or gay marriage anyway?

In agreement about what? The ban, or changing the constitution to fit god's will? I dismiss him for the second part, regardless of what he's referring to.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

You link me to that speech and I will point out how you took what he said out of context.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=52&threadid=2142910

See the second bolded paragraph. That's pretty tough to take out of context. As I said in that thread - he can propose those constitutional bans all he wants, that's not my issue, my issue is his rationale that he explains very clearly.

So... he is talking about what he was talking about. He just is open about why he believes what he believes and isn't going to lie or deceive people or leave it out.

So you dismiss him because of his reasons behind it, even though all the other candidates are in agreement?

Which other candidates are in favor of amendments to ban abortion and same sex marriages?

I believe both McCain and Romney said they would sign bans if it came to their desk. I will find links.

John McCain will appoint conservative judges overturn them and also supports state decisions. He supports it, but will not take a strong stance.

Mitt Romeny

Governor Romney supports a Federal Marriage Amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.

I am pro-life. I believe that abortion is the wrong choice except in cases of incest, rape, and to save the life of the mother. I wish the people of America agreed, and that the laws of our nation could reflect that view. But while the nation remains so divided over abortion, I believe that the states, through the democratic process, should determine their own abortion laws and not have them dictated by judicial mandate.

link

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Farang
MCCAIN AND HUCKABEE WILL NOT RUN TOGETHER

CLINTON AND OBAMA WILL NOT RUN TOGETHER

Who comes up with this crap.. Huckabee is a nutcase that will bring down a campaign with talk of turning the Constitution into a Bible. There are other people who can draw Evangelicals if that is what is needed. Obama is not a VP-type candidate, and would demonize himself if he joined the Clinton ticket. Clinton is a horrible VP choice because she is so divisive and ruins Obama's unity message.

what he said

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Farang
Let me adjust what I said.. there is a very small chance Huckabee gets the VP slot.. if he plays kingmaker and pushes himself on the ticket. However I'm wondering if Romney and McCain would both agree to leave him off the ticket for the sake of saving the Republican's chances.

At least some of you see that it is all about the party.

Clinton has a lot of pwerful allies so Obama would be forced to take her as the VP should he get the delegate count.

Looks like he will because Clinton only has part of the northeast (missing Massachusetts is critical) and Florida was dumped out of the delegate count.

Of course the Clintons will take the delegate issue to the USSC but it will be too late just like too late for Gore.

As far as Republicans retaining their evangelical edge, don't see Romney doing it for them.

Huckabee as nuts as he is, is the best choice they've got now along with the old soldier.

there's a problem with your argument.

why the hell would Hillary even accept a VP slot? it's a demotion to go from a powerful senator to faceless automaton in a ceremonial post.

Obama's more VP material than Hillary is, and even then, it's a waste of a spot. what votes would either one get for the other that they wouldn't be getting anyways? the name of the game is how to win Ohio and/or Florida while still keeping every other state that Gore and Kerry won... and it's not like CA, NJ, NY, etc are in play.

Clinton wants to be President so bad that going for it from the VP spot is better than not having a shot at it at all.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Farang
Let me adjust what I said.. there is a very small chance Huckabee gets the VP slot.. if he plays kingmaker and pushes himself on the ticket. However I'm wondering if Romney and McCain would both agree to leave him off the ticket for the sake of saving the Republican's chances.

At least some of you see that it is all about the party.

Clinton has a lot of pwerful allies so Obama would be forced to take her as the VP should he get the delegate count.

Looks like he will because Clinton only has part of the northeast (missing Massachusetts is critical) and Florida was dumped out of the delegate count.

Of course the Clintons will take the delegate issue to the USSC but it will be too late just like too late for Gore.

As far as Republicans retaining their evangelical edge, don't see Romney doing it for them.

Huckabee as nuts as he is, is the best choice they've got now along with the old soldier.

there's a problem with your argument.

why the hell would Hillary even accept a VP slot? it's a demotion to go from a powerful senator to faceless automaton in a ceremonial post.

Obama's more VP material than Hillary is, and even then, it's a waste of a spot. what votes would either one get for the other that they wouldn't be getting anyways? the name of the game is how to win Ohio and/or Florida while still keeping every other state that Gore and Kerry won... and it's not like CA, NJ, NY, etc are in play.

Clinton wants to be President so bad that going for it from the VP spot is better than not having a shot at it at all.

:thumbsdown:

if Hillary doesn't win now, it's over. she's not going to accept a ceremonial post just to be some punk kid's bitch... and why would Obama even want her there? she's more of a liability than an asset as VP.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Farang
Let me adjust what I said.. there is a very small chance Huckabee gets the VP slot.. if he plays kingmaker and pushes himself on the ticket. However I'm wondering if Romney and McCain would both agree to leave him off the ticket for the sake of saving the Republican's chances.

At least some of you see that it is all about the party.

Clinton has a lot of pwerful allies so Obama would be forced to take her as the VP should he get the delegate count.

Looks like he will because Clinton only has part of the northeast (missing Massachusetts is critical) and Florida was dumped out of the delegate count.

Of course the Clintons will take the delegate issue to the USSC but it will be too late just like too late for Gore.

As far as Republicans retaining their evangelical edge, don't see Romney doing it for them.

Huckabee as nuts as he is, is the best choice they've got now along with the old soldier.

there's a problem with your argument.

why the hell would Hillary even accept a VP slot? it's a demotion to go from a powerful senator to faceless automaton in a ceremonial post.

Obama's more VP material than Hillary is, and even then, it's a waste of a spot. what votes would either one get for the other that they wouldn't be getting anyways? the name of the game is how to win Ohio and/or Florida while still keeping every other state that Gore and Kerry won... and it's not like CA, NJ, NY, etc are in play.

Clinton wants to be President so bad that going for it from the VP spot is better than not having a shot at it at all.

:thumbsdown:

if Hillary doesn't win now, it's over. she's not going to accept a ceremonial post just to be some punk kid's bitch... and why would Obama even want her there? she's more of a liability than an asset as VP.

We'll see. You're suggesting she would give up that easily, I doubt it.

 

[Mavtek3100]

http://video.google.com/videop...id=7768953427995263873

McCain I'm sorry how can anyone support this guy?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Farang
Let me adjust what I said.. there is a very small chance Huckabee gets the VP slot.. if he plays kingmaker and pushes himself on the ticket. However I'm wondering if Romney and McCain would both agree to leave him off the ticket for the sake of saving the Republican's chances.

At least some of you see that it is all about the party.

Clinton has a lot of pwerful allies so Obama would be forced to take her as the VP should he get the delegate count.

Looks like he will because Clinton only has part of the northeast (missing Massachusetts is critical) and Florida was dumped out of the delegate count.

Of course the Clintons will take the delegate issue to the USSC but it will be too late just like too late for Gore.

As far as Republicans retaining their evangelical edge, don't see Romney doing it for them.

Huckabee as nuts as he is, is the best choice they've got now along with the old soldier.

there's a problem with your argument.

why the hell would Hillary even accept a VP slot? it's a demotion to go from a powerful senator to faceless automaton in a ceremonial post.

Obama's more VP material than Hillary is, and even then, it's a waste of a spot. what votes would either one get for the other that they wouldn't be getting anyways? the name of the game is how to win Ohio and/or Florida while still keeping every other state that Gore and Kerry won... and it's not like CA, NJ, NY, etc are in play.

Clinton wants to be President so bad that going for it from the VP spot is better than not having a shot at it at all.

:thumbsdown:

if Hillary doesn't win now, it's over. she's not going to accept a ceremonial post just to be some punk kid's bitch... and why would Obama even want her there? she's more of a liability than an asset as VP.

We'll see. You're suggesting she would give up that easily, I doubt it.

I'm suggesting that a VP slot in no way furthers her agenda to become president.

we'll see, but I'm pretty sure I'm right 😛

also, welcome back! how's NJ?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

You link me to that speech and I will point out how you took what he said out of context.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=52&threadid=2142910

See the second bolded paragraph. That's pretty tough to take out of context. As I said in that thread - he can propose those constitutional bans all he wants, that's not my issue, my issue is his rationale that he explains very clearly.

So... he is talking about what he was talking about. He just is open about why he believes what he believes and isn't going to lie or deceive people or leave it out.

So you dismiss him because of his reasons behind it, even though all the other candidates are in agreement?

Which other candidates are in favor of amendments to ban abortion and same sex marriages?

I believe both McCain and Romney said they would sign bans if it came to their desk. I will find links.

John McCain will appoint conservative judges overturn them and also supports state decisions. He supports it, but will not take a strong stance.

Mitt Romeny

Governor Romney supports a Federal Marriage Amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.

I am pro-life. I believe that abortion is the wrong choice except in cases of incest, rape, and to save the life of the mother. I wish the people of America agreed, and that the laws of our nation could reflect that view. But while the nation remains so divided over abortion, I believe that the states, through the democratic process, should determine their own abortion laws and not have them dictated by judicial mandate.

link

That's great but ZeroIQ stated 'even though all the other candidates are in agreement'. There are candidates other than McCain and Romney. Please show me where Obama or Clinton support bans on abortion and same sex marriage.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Farang
Let me adjust what I said.. there is a very small chance Huckabee gets the VP slot.. if he plays kingmaker and pushes himself on the ticket. However I'm wondering if Romney and McCain would both agree to leave him off the ticket for the sake of saving the Republican's chances.

At least some of you see that it is all about the party.

Clinton has a lot of pwerful allies so Obama would be forced to take her as the VP should he get the delegate count.

Looks like he will because Clinton only has part of the northeast (missing Massachusetts is critical) and Florida was dumped out of the delegate count.

Of course the Clintons will take the delegate issue to the USSC but it will be too late just like too late for Gore.

As far as Republicans retaining their evangelical edge, don't see Romney doing it for them.

Huckabee as nuts as he is, is the best choice they've got now along with the old soldier.

there's a problem with your argument.

why the hell would Hillary even accept a VP slot? it's a demotion to go from a powerful senator to faceless automaton in a ceremonial post.

Obama's more VP material than Hillary is, and even then, it's a waste of a spot. what votes would either one get for the other that they wouldn't be getting anyways? the name of the game is how to win Ohio and/or Florida while still keeping every other state that Gore and Kerry won... and it's not like CA, NJ, NY, etc are in play.

Clinton wants to be President so bad that going for it from the VP spot is better than not having a shot at it at all.

:thumbsdown:

if Hillary doesn't win now, it's over. she's not going to accept a ceremonial post just to be some punk kid's bitch... and why would Obama even want her there? she's more of a liability than an asset as VP.

We'll see. You're suggesting she would give up that easily, I doubt it.

I'm suggesting that a VP slot in no way furthers her agenda to become president.

we'll see, but I'm pretty sure I'm right 😛

also, welcome back! how's NJ?

Thanks. Expensive, can only pay motel up till Friday. debi is driving here now, will take her three days to get here. At least we will be together.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

You link me to that speech and I will point out how you took what he said out of context.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=52&threadid=2142910

See the second bolded paragraph. That's pretty tough to take out of context. As I said in that thread - he can propose those constitutional bans all he wants, that's not my issue, my issue is his rationale that he explains very clearly.

So... he is talking about what he was talking about. He just is open about why he believes what he believes and isn't going to lie or deceive people or leave it out.

So you dismiss him because of his reasons behind it, even though all the other candidates are in agreement?

Which other candidates are in favor of amendments to ban abortion and same sex marriages?

I believe both McCain and Romney said they would sign bans if it came to their desk. I will find links.

John McCain will appoint conservative judges overturn them and also supports state decisions. He supports it, but will not take a strong stance.

Mitt Romeny

Governor Romney supports a Federal Marriage Amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.

I am pro-life. I believe that abortion is the wrong choice except in cases of incest, rape, and to save the life of the mother. I wish the people of America agreed, and that the laws of our nation could reflect that view. But while the nation remains so divided over abortion, I believe that the states, through the democratic process, should determine their own abortion laws and not have them dictated by judicial mandate.

link

That's great but ZeroIQ stated 'even though all the other candidates are in agreement'. There are candidates other than McCain and Romney. Please show me where Obama or Clinton support bans on abortion and same sex marriage.

I would be an idiot if I meant that. I meant R candidates.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

You link me to that speech and I will point out how you took what he said out of context.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=52&threadid=2142910

See the second bolded paragraph. That's pretty tough to take out of context. As I said in that thread - he can propose those constitutional bans all he wants, that's not my issue, my issue is his rationale that he explains very clearly.

So... he is talking about what he was talking about. He just is open about why he believes what he believes and isn't going to lie or deceive people or leave it out.

So you dismiss him because of his reasons behind it, even though all the other candidates are in agreement?

Which other candidates are in favor of amendments to ban abortion and same sex marriages?

I believe both McCain and Romney said they would sign bans if it came to their desk. I will find links.

John McCain will appoint conservative judges overturn them and also supports state decisions. He supports it, but will not take a strong stance.

Mitt Romeny

Governor Romney supports a Federal Marriage Amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman.

I am pro-life. I believe that abortion is the wrong choice except in cases of incest, rape, and to save the life of the mother. I wish the people of America agreed, and that the laws of our nation could reflect that view. But while the nation remains so divided over abortion, I believe that the states, through the democratic process, should determine their own abortion laws and not have them dictated by judicial mandate.

link

That's great but ZeroIQ stated 'even though all the other candidates are in agreement'. There are candidates other than McCain and Romney. Please show me where Obama or Clinton support bans on abortion and same sex marriage.

I would be an idiot if I meant that. I meant R candidates.

That was my point. I'm a registered Rep but I haven't voted that way in a long time because of the evangelical movement within the party. Freedom of religion includes freedom from religion and it seems the Rep's don't get that. For that reason I'll be voting for Obama or Clinton - I'm hoping the former.

 

[Pabster]

Lieberman.

And they'll go down hard.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Mavtek3100
http://video.google.com/videop...id=7768953427995263873

McCain I'm sorry how can anyone support this guy?

His words were taken out of context in that video.

When he said the jobs arent coming back. He was just being brutally honest to the auto workers in Michigan. Hes right, the auto jobs arent coming back to Michigan. The Big 3 will only shed more jobs. There isnt a net loss of auto worker jobs though. The foreign auto companies have hired a lot of people in thier southern auto plants. Romney on the other hand just spouted off what people wanted to hear, even if it wasn't possible.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Lieberman.

And they'll go down hard.

as far as I know, Lieberman's already said that he wouldn't run as a VP candidate.

it'll be interesting to see if the NE becomes competitive in the GE, though, with Lieberman and Rudy stumping for McCain in the tri-state, especially if it's Obama, who unlike Hillary, doesn't already have a strong support network in the area.

 

[Pabster]

Lieberman is the perfect VP candidate. He'll take all the Jewish votes from Hillary.

Now if Obama takes the nod, I'm not sure how that plays out.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Farang
MCCAIN AND HUCKABEE WILL NOT RUN TOGETHER

CLINTON AND OBAMA WILL NOT RUN TOGETHER

Who comes up with this crap.. Huckabee is a nutcase that will bring down a campaign with talk of turning the Constitution into a Bible. There are other people who can draw Evangelicals if that is what is needed. Obama is not a VP-type candidate, and would demonize himself if he joined the Clinton ticket. Clinton is a horrible VP choice because she is so divisive and ruins Obama's unity message.

:thumbsup:

Seriously, only McOwen can come up with nutball BS like any of those candidates running together.

A more likely scenario would be McCain/Romney vs. Obama/Edwards.

We'll see what is brokered behind closed doors at the conventions.

Either way Obama wins the Oval Office seat.

Well, on that last part, you and I can agree.