Who orders steaks well done?

[SAWYER]

Originally posted by: evident

Originally posted by: Sawyer
How are picky eaters annoying? I would say that people who care how others eat their own food have to be at least as annoying if not more. I seriously don't see how it matters how someone likes their food, it has no affect on me enjoying mine.

because when choosing a place to go to meet a bunch of people, people always try and find a place that the picky eater wont starve to death because he wont try anything new, so instead of going to sushi or indian, we go to applebees :|

Man up, tell the picky eater tough shit. Why should one or two picky eaters in a group dictate?

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: sandorski
Whatever people want, let them have it. It doesn't matter to me what they prefer, just as long as they don't force me to eat it.

Yea really. Order your steak the way you want it, let them order their steak the way they want it, and shut the fuck up about it.

No. This detachment from food, bathing everything in condiments and burning it to a crisp and suggesting that everyone can get what they want, always, has created a generation of picky eating, annoying ninny nanny wimps who start ordering sandwiches with the crust cut off the bread and cut into triangles like mommy made. People like this are prisoners of their own hangups and closed-mindedness and essentially abandon the ability to travel anywhere in the world and savor the cuisine of different cultures without a second thought. And if the thought of touring asia and africa and eating the food doesn't appeal to you, then enjoy your Hardees and Applebees in your stripmalls, I guess.

*** you also have collectively made restaurant menus bland, tasteless and watered down and riddled with options and caveats. You're making good food universally worse because restaurant owners are forced to cater to your pathetic obsessions to stay in business.

:laugh:
Your life must be incredibly painful.

I can walk into the seediest restaurant in a chinese slum, be given quivering translucent jelly that tastes like fish and gobble it up with pleasure.

Misery is hoping that your waiter remembers to tell the chef to hold the onions, put the sauce on the side, char the meat, don't let the broccoli touch the potatos, extra ice in your water, no ice in your soda and then pout and whine when it comes back wrong so you have to sit there like a baby girl with your arms crossed when you send the food back and watch everyone else eat. Then everyone has to sit around and wait for you to finish your pathetic dessicated dinner because you're a picky bastard.

 

[hiromizu]

People who eat steaks are evil. Don't eat animals! Eat chicken instead.

 

[Ballatician]

I hate picky eaters but if you are trying to compare the flavor of steak to "world cuisine" you obviously have not sampled much SE asian food. Steak basically has ZERO flavor compared to any good, spicy thai or indian food.

 

[SAWYER]

Say what? Would you not consider a chicken an animal?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: nerp
I can walk into the seediest restaurant in a chinese slum, be given quivering translucent jelly that tastes like fish and gobble it up with pleasure.

Misery is hoping that your waiter remembers to tell the chef to hold the onions, put the sauce on the side, char the meat, don't let the broccoli touch the potatos, extra ice in your water, no ice in your soda and then pout and whine when it comes back wrong so you have to sit there like a baby girl with your arms crossed when you send the food back and watch everyone else eat. Then everyone has to sit around and wait for you to finish your pathetic dessicated dinner because you're a picky bastard.

Cry more?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Ballatician
I hate picky eaters but if you are trying to compare the flavor of steak to "world cuisine" you obviously have not sampled much SE asian food. Steak basically has ZERO flavor compared to any good, spicy thai or indian food.

Heat/spice != flavor

 

[hiromizu]

Originally posted by: Sawyer
Say what? Would you not consider a chicken an animal?

It's a bird.

http://urbanext.illinois.edu/eggs/res08-whatis.html

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: Ballatician
I hate picky eaters but if you are trying to compare the flavor of steak to "world cuisine" you obviously have not sampled much SE asian food. Steak basically has ZERO flavor compared to any good, spicy thai or indian food.

I'm with you on the serious authentic thai or indian food that isn't watered down for the timid american tongue. Steak is a different thing altogether, though. I wouldn't cook steak if I was in the mood for something spicy.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: nerp
I can walk into the seediest restaurant in a chinese slum, be given quivering translucent jelly that tastes like fish and gobble it up with pleasure.

Misery is hoping that your waiter remembers to tell the chef to hold the onions, put the sauce on the side, char the meat, don't let the broccoli touch the potatos, extra ice in your water, no ice in your soda and then pout and whine when it comes back wrong so you have to sit there like a baby girl with your arms crossed when you send the food back and watch everyone else eat. Then everyone has to sit around and wait for you to finish your pathetic dessicated dinner because you're a picky bastard.

Cry more?

Since when does responding to posts on the internet constitute crying? You're obviously upset by my stance. Either get over it or come up with some responses that actually convey an idea. Limp insults just make you look stupid.

 

[SAWYER]

They are still animals. Wait..let me guess, you are one of those annoying vegetarians who try to act ethically and morally superior and claim you don't eat animals/meat but do eat chicken.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: hiromizu

Originally posted by: Sawyer
Say what? Would you not consider a chicken an animal?

It's a bird.

http://urbanext.illinois.edu/eggs/res08-whatis.html

birds aren't animals????

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Ballatician
I hate picky eaters but if you are trying to compare the flavor of steak to "world cuisine" you obviously have not sampled much SE asian food. Steak basically has ZERO flavor compared to any good, spicy thai or indian food.

Heat/spice != flavor

Agreed, but I see his point. Americans are an odd bunch sometimes. The same group of people that think beer other than Budweiser is snobbery will bitch about a steak being well done. People latch on to these little dogmas, but a good restaurant with a good grill man will make even a well done steak taste delicious.

That said, I too would take the beef from Asian cuisines that most in this thread would consider blasphemy.

 

[hiromizu]

Maybe I'm confused but in Japan, birds are not considered animals. We call it Tori, which is bird. It's funny that in America they consider tomatoes as fruits, same type of difference.

 

[SAWYER]

I'm American and I don't care what anyone says, I consider a tomato a veggie

 

[hiromizu]

Originally posted by: Sawyer
I'm American and I don't care what anyone says, I consider a tomato a veggie

I agree. It's odd to think that a tomato, which is used as a veggie, is actually a fruit! It makes no sense. Some people are insane.

 

[Bill Brasky]

I'm late to this thread, but I've been ordering steaks rare for the last year and recently they've all seem too done to me. What is the accepted terminology for less than rare? Warm?

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: DarrelSPowers
I work part time as a waiter at an "upscale casual" steakhouse in Boston. We've got amazing cuts of meat... 14 oz rib eye for like... thirtysomething dollars. During the training period you get to eat anything on the menu every shift for free. I ate like a king for a week... filets, ny strips, and ribeyes every night.

Now, every time I take an order for a med-well or well done steak, I die a little inside.

I mean seriously, what kind of jerk wants to spend $30+ to waste a perfectly tasty piece of meat? Do they really think that dried out, charred husk of a steak tastes any good?

When I was a kid, my family order\cooked steaks and, all beef in general, well done. Maybe it had something to do with seeing blood on the plate or concerns about food safety.

I experimented with degrees of doneness and settled on medium rare.

Could it be cultural differences you are seeing and maybe there isn't an absolute correct degree of doneness in cooking steak?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: hiromizu
Maybe I'm confused but in Japan, birds are not considered animals. We call it Tori, which is bird. It's funny that in America they consider tomatoes as fruits, same type of difference.

It's not what a particular culture considers it, it's how it is classified by science.

Bird = animal.
Tomato = fruit.

no other option there.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Ballatician
I hate picky eaters but if you are trying to compare the flavor of steak to "world cuisine" you obviously have not sampled much SE asian food. Steak basically has ZERO flavor compared to any good, spicy thai or indian food.

Heat/spice != flavor

Agreed, but I see his point. Americans are an odd bunch sometimes. The same group of people that think beer other than Budweiser is snobbery will bitch about a steak being well done. People latch on to these little dogmas, but a good restaurant with a good grill man will make even a well done steak taste delicious.

That said, I too would take the beef from Asian cuisines that most in this thread would consider blasphemy.

I can get wound up over picky eaters, but I agree with you about the grill man. Getting a good sear and then just putting it on the cold spot to hang out while you drop the mediums and medium rares is one technique. The meat will cook for a few minutes on the plate and it's important to let it rest anyway, so you can JUUUUST edge the last line of pink out if you time it perfectly.

If you see a cook drop a weight on the steak to cook it faster, he should be given a good sear and put on the cold spot himself.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: growled
I've never seen a piece of steak worth $30+.

Originally posted by: growled
I have seen a $30+ dollar steak before. Many times. I've never seen one worth $30+...that is, worth that much to me. That word worth was in there for a reason.

$30 is an amount everyone on this forum is familiar with, except you. You wouldn't happen to be our former president would you?

he said worth 30.

Yes, i get it. Obv you don't either.

obviously i'm an idiot

No, JohnCU and I both get what growled is trying to say. I've never seen a steak worth 30 dollars to me either growled.

Seen plenty of steaks that COST 30 dollars. Eaten several steaks that COST 30 dollars. None worth it.

How was Bob Evans tonight? Too much salt?

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: nerp
I can walk into the seediest restaurant in a chinese slum, be given quivering translucent jelly that tastes like fish and gobble it up with pleasure.

Misery is hoping that your waiter remembers to tell the chef to hold the onions, put the sauce on the side, char the meat, don't let the broccoli touch the potatos, extra ice in your water, no ice in your soda and then pout and whine when it comes back wrong so you have to sit there like a baby girl with your arms crossed when you send the food back and watch everyone else eat. Then everyone has to sit around and wait for you to finish your pathetic dessicated dinner because you're a picky bastard.

Cry more?

Since when does responding to posts on the internet constitute crying? You're obviously upset by my stance. Either get over it or come up with some responses that actually convey an idea. Limp insults just make you look stupid.

Actually, I'm just busy being entertained by the amount of vitriol you have to spout for people who prefer to eat foods the way that is appealing to them

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Sawyer
How are picky eaters annoying? I would say that people who care how others eat their own food have to be at least as annoying if not more. I seriously don't see how it matters how someone likes their food, it has no affect on me enjoying mine.

No, no, you have to eat whatever food they serve you the way they feel like serving it even though you're the one paying for it.

Once you get into high enough end restaurants this isn't far from the reality.

I do however fully accept another person's decision to order a $50 steak and request that it be burned into a piece of tasteless rubber with a crunchy shell. I do however shed an invisible tear as a once juicy prime cut bone in filet (or other great cut) is immolated.

<---steak nazi

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Sawyer
How are picky eaters annoying? I would say that people who care how others eat their own food have to be at least as annoying if not more. I seriously don't see how it matters how someone likes their food, it has no affect on me enjoying mine.

No, no, you have to eat whatever food they serve you the way they feel like serving it even though you're the one paying for it.

Once you get into high enough end restaurants this isn't far from the reality.

I do however fully accept another person's decision to order a $50 steak and request that it be burned into a piece of tasteless rubber with a crunchy shell. I do however shed an invisible tear as a once juicy prime cut bone in filet (or other great cut) is immolated.

<---steak nazi

I'm too much of a skinflint to pay for meals in those types of restaurants anyway... only if somebody else is footing the bill

 

[Jadow]

Originally posted by: Sawyer
steak snobs will probably die, but I have dipped my steak in ranch before.

substitute ranch for clarified butter and I'm right there with you!

My favorite restaurant has a steak and Alaskan King Crab special (nice big legs)

and I can't resist getting a little butter on my steak.