Who invented WSAD + Mouselook in FPS?

[Frost Byte]

Was it by the game company or the consumer?

For me, I *think* it started around Quake II. I learned to use mouselook for the first time, then the game suddenly becamse super easy. I could run circles around these single-player enemies and I could wiggle my way through hundreds of enemies at once..

Wasn't it invented by the QII tournament winner Thresh Hong?

 

[Juice Box]

Quake 1 had mouselook

 

[HamburgerBoy]

System Shock in early December of 1994. Then Marathon was released a week or two later and had it as well.

EDIT: Oh, which company. Then it'd be Origin Systems.

 

[akubi]

heck, original wolf3d had mouselook (only parallel to the ground)

it's impossible to beat with just keyboard

 

[Frost Byte]

Originally posted by: Juice Box
Quake 1 had mouselook

You sure? Maybe the updated version included it AFTERWARDS... I don't remember QI at the original release had it.

 

[Juice Box]

Originally posted by: akubi
heck, original wolf3d had mouselook (only parallel to the ground)

it's impossible to beat with just keyboard

no...no its not

 

[wfbberzerker]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WASD

 

[Leper Messiah]

My Open GL quake has mouse look, but IDK remember if it was in the orginal. Q2 was the first game I remember having mouselook by default (even if they did set you up with the arrow keys instead of WASD...)

 

[torpid]

Was quake before duke nuk'em? Because I remember first using A and D to strafe in Duke.

 

[Juice Box]

Originally posted by: Frost Byte

Originally posted by: Juice Box
Quake 1 had mouselook

You sure? Maybe the updated version included it AFTERWARDS... I don't remember QI at the original release had it.

nope! it had mouselook. Open console and type "+mlook"...you'll get your mouselook. made it a LOT easier too

 

[Jzero]

Marathon is the first game I remember with mouselook, however it was simple enough that most of the people I know still used arrow keys + mouselook. I didn't start using ESDF until Quake II when the ActionQuake mod required quick access to a lot of buttons that just could not easily be reached from the arrow keys. I came up with it myself as it just seemed like a good spot where you could easily reach a lot of keys.

 

[acemcmac]

I didn't get the idea it was the default method of looking around until Unreal 1

 

[Juice Box]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I didn't get the idea it was the default method of looking around until Unreal 1

haha I can see you now

*frantickly looking for PageUp and PageDown keys to see the monster on the ceiling!!*

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I didn't get the idea it was the default method of looking around until Unreal 1

It was in Marathon, and you could even look up and down as opposed to most games at the time which only had side to side mouse look.

 

[habib89]

did doom 2 not have mouse look? it's been so long.. wolf3d woulda been before doom2 though

 

[Juice Box]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I didn't get the idea it was the default method of looking around until Unreal 1

It was in Marathon, and you could even look up and down as opposed to most games at the time which only had side to side mouse look.

lol those are the games that had the auto aim that was always on...as long as you were facing the enemies...you hit them

 

[akubi]

Originally posted by: habib89
did doom 2 not have mouse look? it's been so long.. wolf3d woulda been before doom2 though

doom also had it.

dunno how anyone plays fps without a mouse.

how do you dodge projectiles and fire at the same time?

 

[Frost Byte]

Originally posted by: Juice Box

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I didn't get the idea it was the default method of looking around until Unreal 1

haha I can see you now

*frantickly looking for PageUp and PageDown keys to see the monster on the ceiling!!*

It also has to do with the game engines, no game engine was completely 3D until QI. All Dooms and Duke games had awkward skewing problem if you were to look freely with mouselook.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: akubi

Originally posted by: habib89
did doom 2 not have mouse look? it's been so long.. wolf3d woulda been before doom2 though

doom also had it.

dunno how anyone plays fps without a mouse.

how do you dodge projectiles and fire at the same time?

Those games only had horizontal mouse look from what I remember.

 

[sswingle]

I thought Half Life was the first game to use WASD??

 

[Frost Byte]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: akubi

Originally posted by: habib89
did doom 2 not have mouse look? it's been so long.. wolf3d woulda been before doom2 though

doom also had it.

dunno how anyone plays fps without a mouse.

how do you dodge projectiles and fire at the same time?

Those games only had horizontal mouse look from what I remember.

Yup and as long as enemies were horizontally lined up, vertical aiming was done automatically This was also true for Duke3D & Quake I. The true mouselook without auto-aim wasn't til QII.....

No... even QII had auto vertical aim.. I'm so confused.

[edit]
Oh yea, we totally forgot about Half Life. It was HL1 that had 100% free mouselook.

 

[akubi]

Originally posted by: Frost Byte

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: akubi

Originally posted by: habib89
did doom 2 not have mouse look? it's been so long.. wolf3d woulda been before doom2 though

doom also had it.

dunno how anyone plays fps without a mouse.

how do you dodge projectiles and fire at the same time?

Those games only had horizontal mouse look from what I remember.

Yup and as long as enemies were horizontally lined up, vertical aiming was done automatically This was also true for Duke3D & Quake I. The true mouselook without auto-aim wasn't til QII.....

No... even QII had auto vertical aim.. I'm so confused.

huh? starting w/ q1 you had to take into account vertical aim. unless you have some cheat on or something

 

[Homerboy]

I just recall having to add the +mlook to the command line for Q1... along with LOTS of other crap.

 

[EyeMWing]

Marathon had mouselook as we know it today, but the default keymap wasn't WASD. So you had arrows + mouselook. So I'll credit Bungie/Marathon/Marathon 2/Marathon Infinity.

Edit: Ah, System Shock had it first by a few days or something stupid like that. But Marathon was still the better game.

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

the original doom for pc had the arrow keys but no mouse, since it was ment for dos.