Who here thinks the October Surprise is actually how rapid Trumps social decline is?

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HomerJS

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About that Atlantic piece—the murdered servicemember’s sister apparently posted on X that the reporter never contacted them directly and relied on a family attorney as a source—she then went on to say Trump *did* help their family cover expenses [perhaps not personally but by helping them get “line of duty” benefits] and that she rejects the Atlantic’s reporting and that she personally voted for Trump.

I don’t think the Atlantic is some sleazy tabloid rag—but the problem with sourcing any story from former members of the Trump Administration is that NONE of them are trustworthy—they are all liars who were in service of the Chief Liar at some point. So whether they are Trump cheerleaders like Alex Pfeiffer, Mark Meadows & Kash Patel, or whether they are disgruntled former cabinet members/aides with an axe to grind against Trump—while one camp might be relatively more honest, I still wouldn’t absolutely trust them as sources.
As previously stated the family was not in the room so their opinion on what was said is not relevant
 

HomerJS

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In other words it's consistent with his lack of character.
Trump was rude to a newly widowed wife of a fallen soldier. She said Trump did t bother to remember his name and made her feel worse. Conversation witnessed by her Congressperson.

All this fits in his despicable character.
 
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Moonbeam

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Trump was rude to a newly widowed wife of a fallen soldier. She said Trump did t bother to remember his name and made her feel worse. Conversation witnessed by her Congressperson.

All this fits in his despicable character.
What I see is a person so needy for attention and praise that he feels tremendous envy for the fact that others are honored for their willingness to potentially die for their country whereas he had a doubtless phony case bone spurs and that envy drives him to put them down because they have what he can never have. He is just unimaginably pathetic.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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It's not 'he said/she said' though. In any court her testimony on what was said would be thrown out as it is hearsay. Kelly's evidence would be admitted as it is eyewitness testimony AND it is supported by contemporaneous documents.

If people are reporting he said/she said they are committing journalistic malpractice as one account is based in evidence and the other is not.
Except the court of public opinion. No such standard is required there.
 

trenchfoot

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The more time goes by, the more obvious Trump's problem with his senility will become along with whatever factors are progressively pushing it along. I can just imagine what his appearance and behavior will look and sound like even a year from now. I'm certain some folks close to Trump are already looking for ways to prevent Trump from being hit with the 25th somewhere in the near future.
 
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Muse

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The more time goes by, the more obvious Trump's problem with his senility will become along with whatever factors are progressively pushing it along. I can just imagine what his appearance and behavior will look and sound like even a year from now. I'm certain some folks close to Trump are already looking for ways to prevent Trump from being hit with the 25th somewhere in the near future.
He already looks like crap all the time.
 

fskimospy

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He already looks like crap all the time.
While I agree it really seems like his decline has accelerated. He doesn't seem to have a grasp on much that's going on, they deleted almost all of his statements from the website because they're incoherent, etc. Even for Trump he looks like shit.
 
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trenchfoot

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Given the heinous "What's in it for me" culture that permeates the Trump admin., I wouldn't put it past Vance and his conniving support group to surreptitiously help things along in the way of getting Trump certified and eligible for having a long enforced stay at some executive level funny farm. Besides, at the deteriorating pace Trump is on, the party henchmen will want to throw Trump under the bus before he creates for the Republicans what Biden sadly did to the Democrats.
 

Muse

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While I agree it really seems like his decline has accelerated. He doesn't seem to have a grasp on much that's going on, they deleted almost all of his statements from the website because they're incoherent, etc. Even for Trump he looks like shit.
If all that's true I don't see how he can make it through the rest of his term.
 

outriding

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Biden should troll the entire MAGA base by posting things like riding a bike and saying things like I can still ride a bike let see if Donny can
 
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